Canon EOS 7D Mark 3
Canon EOS 7D Mark 3
Rumours for the EOS 7D mk2 replacement:
The EOS 7D and 7D mk2 are both long lived models (for more details, see the Canon camera timeline below). This page has all our Canon EOS 7D Mark III rumours and information..
Since the 7D2 finally appeared in 2014, after a 5 year run for the original, a 2019 camera looked possible. However the precipitous crash in camera sales and rise of mirrorless has made any 7D mk3 less likely.
The 32.5MP EOS 90D appearing in August 2019 makes a 7D3 look more and more like something that was planned a while ago, but killed off by changing markets?
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The Canon timeline shows the ages of different cameras.
|Best||Full||1Ds||1Ds Mk II||1Ds Mk III||1D X||1DX II|
|1.3||1D||1D Mk II||1D MkIIn||1D Mk III||1D Mk IV|
|5D||5D Mk II||5D Mk III||5D Mk IV|
|1.6||7D||7D Mk II|
|750D T6i||800D T7i|
|Micro||1.6||100D SL1 X7||200D SL2||250D|
|Entry||1.6||1000D / XS / F||1100D / T3 / X50||1200D T5 X70||1300D T6||2000D T7|
Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k
Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual
28th The 90D is launched…
20th Full specs of the 32.5MP 90D are leaked [90D page]. With 4k video and 10fps (with tracking AF) it may be enough for some 7D2 users looking to update. I suspect it won’t satisfy 7D2 users wanting an ‘APS-C 1 series’ DSLR, but with the changing camera market, I don’t think that was ever likely to happen.
Will we see a 7D mk3? Up until this year’s camera sales figures, I’d have put it as a definite – but with the switch to mirrorless and the RF mount, I’m now thinking we will not :-(
One question I have seen is whether there is a place for an APS-C high performance EOS R model? I’m sure there is such a project somewhere at Canon, but the EOS R range seems firmly planted in ‘Full Frame’ territory.
Apart from a few changes to refresh the Rebel (xxxD) range and make them cheaper to produce, there’s a good chance that the 90D represents the end of the road for well specced APS-C DSLRs. Yes, there will be a 1D X mk3 flagship DSLR for 2020, but there will be a hefty thinning out of our timeline in a few years…
2nd Some certification info [90D page] suggests three SKUs for the next DSLR and a LP-E6N size battery.
It’s still not certain whether it’s a 7D3 or 90D, or some other designation. It looks as if there will be some more detailed specs before too much longer.
7th The only thing we’re hearing about currently is a 80D replacement that will be ‘very well specced’. This has been associated with a new sensor design (again!) and a potential appearance of Digic 9 to give much improved 4k performance and shooting speed. [90D page]
31st More and more people seem to be thinking the 7D line won’t be extended any more – of course much of this is based on not a lot more than it’s not been announced yet…
An EOS R fast APS-C camera could be a possibility [CR] and with much of what I’ve read in Canon US patent filings, the RF mount could indeed be the key. The mount is often seen as ‘just’ a shorter flange distance, but there is a lot more in its power handling and communications capabilities that we’ve yet to see pushed in any real way.
One day Canon is going to produce a mirrorless ‘flagship’ 1D level mirrorless camera. That will be aimed at a market that will demand everything working just right, and a lot of design/manufacturing experience might come from an initial fast crop camera…
8th A new model number (DS126801) via regulatory info suggests that we may see a ~32MP camera this year – a combined 7D2 and 80D replacement? – more details on the 90D page
19th Looking at recent updates to the unannounced model numbers list (main rumour page), which comes from wireless regulatory filings, we see only a few small cameras (‘PC’ model numbers – M and G series) with nothing in the larger ‘DS’ category. The listings there typically give 4-6 months advance warning of a new camera model.
That alone makes any 7D mk3 unlikely until the autumn. A look at the timeline shows the 2014 7D2 up there as the longest running model. There’s no shortage of speculation type rumours, and one of the latest [CR] simply suggests that there won’t be a 7D3, with the 80D replacement bumped up in specs, and we’ll see a mirrorless model taking up the 7D3 space.
One firm take-away – you’ll not be shooting your summer holiday photos with a 7D3 ;-)
All of Canon’s effort at the moment seems to be going into getting people into full frame mirrorless. Even looking at the full list of announced and ‘pending’ RF lenses you’ll see a massive preponderance of ‘L’ grade lenses. These are pitched to be available for higher and very high end EOS R models in the next year or so.
There is an unannounced model in the wireless regulatory specs, but the LP-E17 battery for it, pretty much rules a 7D3 out.
Wireless regulatory info:
DS 126751 (This is the EOS RP)
- Digital camera (single lens reflex or RF mounting machine)
- Made in Japan (Oita Plant)
- Wi-Fi · Bluetooth equipped (WM 600)
- SKU: 3380C003AA, 3380C013AA, 3380C023AA
- Battery: 7.2 V 1040 mAh (LP – E 17)
DS 126761 (As yet unknown)
- Digital camera (single lens reflex or RF mounting machine)
- Made in Taiwan or Made in Japan (Oita Plant)
- Wi-Fi · Bluetooth equipped (WM 600)
- SKU: 3454C001AA, 3454C002AA, 3454C003AA, 3458C001AA, 3461C001AA
- Battery: 7.2 V 1040 mAh (LP – E 17?)
The small battery and multiple SKU codes of the remaining model listed at the usually reliable Nokishita site [Nok] suggests that the next camera could be an xxxD level model – not an 80D or 7D2 replacement.
8th Whilst it could signify nothing more than that they made too many wireless adapters, I note that at B&H the basic 7D mk2 is marked as ‘discontinued’.
27th Today marks 15 years of rumours/info here on the site [see on main page] – if I had to sum it up, rumours are no more reliable than they were then, beyond a month or so before a product release. That and Canon still doesn’t leak much ;-)
14th A 7D mk3 next year? A hint in regulatory findings (all on the main Canon rumours page)
10th Canon info suggests that cameras will appear above and below the initial EOS R level. There is a clear sign of this in a Canon graphic from a Japanese article (see the EOS R/mirrorless page for more)
For the APS-C cameras at the right, the top two are 7DII and 80D. Bottom two are M5 and M6.
At some point a particular xxxD, xxD or xD model is going to be the last in the line – I don’t quite think were at that point with the 80D or 7D2 yet. I’m still expecting a 7D mk3 next year but I’m inclined to think it’s likely to be the end of the line for the 7 series as a DSLR.
I’ve written up some of my own thoughts about when I’ll move to an RF mount based camera – not for a bit, but it will happen.
30th A full list of current Canon regulatory (wireless) filings/code numbers on the main Canon rumour page.
What’s there still suggests two DSLRs – one at mid/higher level and one at mid/lower level – but not until next year?
The note are brief and machine translated, so read into them what you will…
However, it suggests we may be waiting a while yet for updates to the 80D and 7D2.
27th No reliable signs of a camera appearing any time soon, and this seems the current news.
…Just look at the timeline and make your guess, because anyone who does know isn’t talking ;-)
14th Probably related to the ‘split’ info (below) we’ve had it suggested that the new higher end crop DSLR will be a specialist 4K video version aimed firmly at a market that can’t afford to get into the Cxxx range.
No details so firmly in the ‘sounds a good idea’ category
Actually of late, I’ve seen or been sent very little that wasn’t speculative (at best)
As ever – look at the general ‘flow’ of rumours.
We’re very much in the ‘noise’ at the moment – nothing here I’d put even a small wager on
No real info apart from the suggestion [CR] that the 7D3 won’t be here until next year and there may be a model between 7D3 and 90D.
14th The 7D mk2 is being discounted in the US, with a sale at Amazon taking it below $1100 (NB – I don’t know the origin of the camera though)
At the moment, there doesn’t seem to be a corresponding drop in official prices, so it may be a bit early to see this as a clearance sale before the 7D mk4
12th A look at the updated timeline above shows the age of the 7D mk2 and certainly it looks like it could see an update sometime this year. As yet, there is no solid info and at [CR] they raise the possibility that it might not even come this year. As it stands, I’d not be surprised to see no new 5Ds until 2019 and if the 7D3 didn’t appear until then, it would be a bit of a surprise (but not huge – it depends what else we see from Canon).
19th Plenty of guess/rumour/wishlist stuff going around at the ‘made for ads’ end of the web ;-)
Best summed up at CN and countered by some actual knowledge about cameras, sensor design and patents.
3rd A definite uptick in noises about the 7D Mk3, but no-one has any details. The two DSLRs mentioned in recent regulatory filings [nok] are likely for the spring and in the xxxD (rebel) category.
Since we’re now in November I’m inclined to agree with one comment about an August announcement for appearance at the last biennial September photokina [PK] although that slot could go to the 5Ds mk2, with the 7D3 in late spring (look again at the timeline above…)
As ever, keep a look on the sorts of rumours appearing. There’s usually a distinct change in the couple of months before a release when less imagination has been involved ;-)
30th A 7D3 wishlist (it’s far too early for specs) [CR] goes to 30MP/12fps
7th Well, I was looking at the timeline and wondering what might be next…
The 7D3 gets a mention [CR] for Q1/Q2 2018 – no details at all.
My own guess would be that it comes a bit later in the year and will jump to Digic 8 – the same processor that in dual configuration will allow a big jump in MP for the 5Ds Mk2
25th 7D owners may recall the features update in firmware that tweaked quite a few things, and came some time into the life of the 7D. It’s two years into the 7D2 lifetime and I’m still not expecting a 7D mk3 until 2018.
It seems that there will be an update (but probably not a vast one) for 7D2 firmware some time before Photokina (Sept.)
Also on the cards are an improved kit lens and a somewhat cheaper WiFi option [CR]
31st A studio version of the 7D2 (as with the SV version of the mk1) [CR]
No detailed press info yet.
5th Tomorrow sees a new 24MP sensor from Canon, with no DPAF in the split xxxD range (750D/760D). The 7D2 will (should) be around for quite some time, so perhaps the split impinges more on the followup to the 70D?
15th 7D2 announced
20.2MP APS-C, 10 fps, 65 pt AF
ISO100-16000 + expansion to 25k, 52k
GPS, Dual Digic 6, CF + SD
23rd Rumours step up a level, with a good set of specs, that may well represent a leak of actual pre-production info for the 7D2
6th Time for our 7Dmk3 page to appear.
As a complete hostage to fortune, given there is no 7D2 yet, I predict a 2019 release and…
Non Bayer sensor
25MP (or 75MP pixels)
Still an optical viewfinder (but enhanced), whilst all other EOS APS-C models have gone to full EVF.
Clean 4k video (still no RAW output, since Canon make more expensive video DSLRs for that)
5th We hear [thanks] from Germany, that there are several Canon Pro dealer events scheduled in July covering announcements in August.
Only senior people though, so probably no leaks until they are properly authorised ;-)
Meanwhile there are reports that the 7D will no longer be available to dealers by the start of July [CR]
22nd Keep an eye out for the 7D2 in use at the upcoming world cup in Brazil [CR] Still on for a Q3 announcement.
13th The 7D2 is suggested as a Q3 product (main rumours page)
3rd I see that a high end D9300 [D400] crop sensor camera is mentioned [NR] – why note that here? We’ve long been told that Canon and Nikon were both holding back on replacing the 7D and D300s until the other made a move.
Of course it’s widely believed that both companies have pretty good knowledge of what the other is up to. It would also be remiss of me not to note that Canon related rumours often elicit similar Nikon ones and vice versa ;-)
2nd May is suggested for a 7D2 [CR] – as yet we’ve seen no detailed specs beyond what have been floating around for a few months.
Once we get within 4 weeks of any announcement, I’d expect to to see a distinct change in the ‘style’ of information appearing. It’s worth noting that the 100D and 700D are now both just over a year old.
|MSRP||$1799 (body only), $2149 (w/18-135mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM lens)|
|Body type||Mid-size SLR|
|Body material||Magnesium alloy|
|Max resolution||5472 x 3648|
|Other resolutions||4104 x 2736 (M-Raw), 3648 x 2432, 2736 x 1824, 1920 x 1080, 720 x 480|
|Image ratio w:h||3:2, 16:9|
|Effective pixels||20 megapixels|
|Sensor photo detectors||21 megapixels|
|Sensor size||APS-C (22.4 x 15 mm)|
|Processor||DIGIC 6 (dual)|
|Color space||sRGB, Adobe RGB|
|Color filter array||Primary color filter|
|ISO||Auto, ISO 100-16000 (expandable to 51200)|
|White balance presets||8|
|Custom white balance||Yes|
|JPEG quality levels||Fine, normal|
|File format||JPEG (EXIF v2.3, DCF v2.0)|
|Optics & Focus|
|Autofocus||Contrast Detect (sensor)
|Autofocus assist lamp||Yes|
|Number of focus points||65|
|Lens mount||Canon EF/EF-S|
|Focal length multiplier||1.6×|
|Screen / viewfinder|
|Screen type||Clear View II TFT-LCD|
|Viewfinder type||Optical (pentaprism)|
|Minimum shutter speed||30 sec|
|Maximum shutter speed||1/8000 sec|
|Exposure modes||Scene Intelligent Auto
Shutter priority AE
Aperture priority AE
|External flash||Yes (via hot shoe, flash sync port)|
|Flash X sync speed||1/250 sec|
Silent single shooting
Silent continuous shooting
10-sec self-timer / remote control
2 sec self-timer / remote control
|Continuous drive||10.0 fps|
|Self-timer||Yes (2 or 10 sec)|
|Exposure compensation||±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)|
|AE Bracketing||±5 (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)|
|Resolutions||1920 x 1080 (59.94, 50. 29.97, 25, 24, 23.98 fps), 1280 x 720 (59.94, 50, 29.97, 25 fps), 640 x 480 (29.97, 25 fps)|
|Videography notes||Choice of MOV or MP4 and IPB, Light IBP, ALL-I compression|
|Storage types||CompactFlash + SD/SDHC/SDXC|
|USB||USB 3.0 (5 GBit/sec)|
|Remote control||Yes (wired or wireless)|
|Battery description||LP-E6N lithium-ion battery and charger|
|Battery Life (CIPA)||670|
|Weight (inc. batteries)||910 g (2.01 lb / 32.10 oz)|
|Dimensions||149 x 112 x 78 mm (5.87 x 4.41 x 3.07″)|
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