Mirrorless camera rumours
Mirrorless camera Rumours
Mirrorless rumours for Canon and other makes
Now that Canon have dipped their toe in the mirrorless (aka CSC or EVIL) camera market, I’m putting all mirrorless info and rumours on this one page.
This covers all manufacturers, although Canon cameras will get more interest from myself (they match my lens collection).
It’s interesting to see whether Nikon will stick with their very small sensor solutions as their only entry in this market.
Rumours and news go back to Jan 2012 on this page – 2009-2012 rumours are in the Mirrorless archive page
There is a detailed comparison of imaging sensor chip sizes further down this page.
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Latest news and rumours
3rd Adapters sound a great idea for using assorted lenses with mirrorless cameras of different makes, but it’s a tricky area to get right. There is an excellent article based on real world testing at Lens Rentals [LR]. I’d note their numerous warnings about not using some combinations on a paying job if you want reliability.
1st DxOMark scores for the M5 show an improvement over the M3 in their evaluation of the M5 Sensor [DxOMark]
15th The EOS M6 is announced – full details on our M6 info page.
9th Specs for the M6 appear, showing it to be similar to the M5 [Nok-xlt]
- 24.2 MP
- DIGIC 7
- 49 AF points
- 7 FPS (AF fixed: 9 FPS)
- ISO 100 to 25600
- Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30, Flash sync 1/200
- Video: Full HD, HD, VGA
- LCD: 3 inch type tilt type touch panel
- Size: 112.0 × 68.0 × 44.5 mm
- Recording medium: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
- Built-in Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
- Colour: Black / Silver
- Kit: Body – EF – M 15 – 45 mm kit – EF – M 18 – 150 mm kit (Double zoom and others are also sold in some countries)
8th Photos of the new M6 appear, along with the new EVF (both in black and silver) [Nok-xlt]
The EVF design harks back to the external viewfinders popular for rangefinder cameras when you used a non standard lens.
3rd The M6 is due soon [Nok – xlt]
As with most rumours, it’s that change in detail that suggests a product is genuinely near – Much of the more vague stuff I see is 80% guesswork, and that’s being generous ;-)
Colour: Black / Silver
Body only |15-45 mm lens kit | 18-150 mm lens kit | Dual zoom lens kit
SKU: 1724C001 (Black), 1725C001 (Silver)
The 3 digit end number varies with the country of sale and kit.
Colour: Black / Silver
SKU: 1727C001 (black), 1882C001 (silver)
31st It looks as if a new external viewfinder (EVF-DC2) for EOS-M cameras will appear next month [Nok], available in black/silver.
30th An interesting interview [IF] with Leica, covering the M10 branding (loss of the Typ number), lack of video (customer demand) and many technical aspects.
18th Leica M10 details surface [Nok -xlt]
- 24 MP FF CMOS sensor specially developed for M10
- The latest generation image processor “LEICA MAESTRO II”
- ISO sensitivity range of ISO 100 ~ 50,000
- 2 GB internal memory
- High-speed continuous shooting of up to 5 fps
- ISO click dial on top cover
- The depth of the top cover is only 33.75 mm and is the slimmest form among the M type digital cameras so far
- In addition to raising the field of vision by 30% and raising the finder magnification to x0.73, the eye relief also expanded by 50%
- The operation part on the back of the camera has only three buttons: a joystick and “play”, “live view”, “menu”
- Adopted “My Camera Menu” that allows you to register menu items freely from the main menu
- Built-in Wi-Fi function
- Direct transmission of RAW files in DNG format
- It is possible to operate the Leica M10 remotely
- Electronic viewfinder “Leica Bizofurex” compatible
- Size: 139 × 80 × 38.5 mm
- Weight: 660 g (including battery)
- Colour: Black Chrome, Silver Chrome
- Japanese reservation start date: January 19
- Japanese release date: February
- Mass retailer price: 918,000 yen (tax included)
Photos and specs for the Fuji X-T20, X100F cameras and Fujinon XF 50mm f/2 R WR lens appear [PR]
Panasonic want to be able to offer 8k video from an MFT camera by 2020 
The Japanese BCN camera sales figures for 2016 were released this week and one area Canon didn’t take the top spot was in mirrorless. Add to this the CIPA camera shipments showing a very small rise in cameras shipping for November (still down for the year) and many fan sites and forums were celebrating the arrival of a new economic golden age…
OK, perhaps not quite that much but for a more nuanced analysis see Thom Hogan’s notes [sm]
12th Suggestions of a full frame Sigma SD Quattro, but not for a while yet… [DCI]
Lots of info seems to have leaked out about the upcoming Leica M10 [LR]
Should be official on the 18th.
24th This year’s CP+ show (late Feb) should see a new addition to the EOS M range [CR]
A couple of lenses are also suggested as kit options: EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM, and the EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM and also that the EF-M 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM will be pensioned off.
The ‘6D2/mirrorless full frame’ noise of recent days is IMHO just the echo of wishful thinking on a few sites (see main rumour page ;-)
|Best||Full||1Ds||1Ds Mk II||1Ds Mk III||1D X||1DX II|
|1.3||1D||1D Mk II||1D MkIIn||1D Mk III||1D Mk IV|
|5D||5D Mk II||5D Mk III||5D Mk IV|
|1.6||7D||7D Mk II|
|Micro||1.6||100D SL1 X7|
|Entry||1.6||1000D / XS / F||1100D / T3 / X50||1200D T5 X70||1300D T6|
Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.
Video capable 4k | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual
15th The manual for the Canon EOS M5 is available from Canon USA. [Download].
26th Some product codes registered for WiFi/bluetooth suggest a mirrorless camera and a new EVF unit, along with at least two DSLR codes – main rumour page
24th A long way off, but a mention of a Canon Full Frame mirrorless. [CR]
This feels a bit like the assorted EOS 3D and Canon Medium Format rumours you’ve seen over the years – maybe they’ll do it eventually, but not to hold your breath waiting. Of the three categories I’d suggest that this is more likely, just because of other developments in the rapidly shrinking camera market.
15th The M5 is announced with a new EF-M 18-150mm lens.
This looks much more a camera I’d be comfortable using – I’m keen to see just how good the EVF is. In some ways it’s a cut down 80D, at about the size of the 100D.
More camera info on the EOS M5 page.
14th More detailed specs of the M5 look good – is this effectively the replacement for the 100D?
Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2MP (total 25.8MP) APS-C CMOS
Dual pixel AF CMOS
ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
Shutter speed: 1/4000 – 30s
Flash sync max 1/200
Continuous shooting: ~9 fps , 7 fps with AF tracking
Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
EVF: 2.36 million dot
LCD Screen: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD
Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11B / G / N), Bluetooth (4.1)
Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)
Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6mm
Weight: ~380g (body only), 427g (battery + SD card)
Some points compared to the 100D
|Feature||EOS M5||EOS 100D|
|Shutter||1/4000 to 30s||1/4000 to 30s|
|Size (mm)||115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6||117 x 91 x 69|
Sensor: 24.2 MP APS-C CMOS
AF: dual pixel CMOS AF | Touch AF | More AF points than any other camera
DIGIC 7 | Continuous shooting: 7fps | Continuous shooting in live view: 9fps
ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
Video: FullHD 60fps, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
Dynamic NFC, Bluetooth built-in | Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
Size: 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 mm | Weight: 427g
1st An M5 is expected soon (15th?). Some specs [CR]
24.2mp (80D style) | Built-in electronic viewfinde (EVF)
New AF system | more classical camera design, more in line with Fuji or Olympus
EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM
The EVF is welcome for people like myself who can no longer clearly read a rear screen and certainly not use it for composition if their glasses are not at hand :-)
I never much cared for phone cameras, but now, using one is even more of a nuisance…
28th Two Canon mirrorless cameras are mentioned in certification notes fro Russia, along with a DSLR
Full list on the main rumours page
22nd A hint of a follow up to the M3 for later this year/early next [CR]
A look at the timeline suggests we might see an appearance of Digic 7 (first seen in the G7X mk2 announced in Feb)
|Best||Full||1Ds||1Ds Mk II||1Ds Mk III||1D X||1DX II|
|1.3||1D||1D Mk II||1D MkIIn||1D Mk III||1D Mk IV|
|5D||5D Mk II||5D Mk III||5D Mk IV|
|1.6||7D||7D Mk II|
|Micro||1.6||100D SL1 X7|
|Entry||1.6||1000D / XS / F||1100D / T3 / X50||1200D T5 X70||1300D T6|
Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.
Video capable 4k | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual
6th A new Canon 16-50 f3.5-5.6 APS-C mirrorless lens patent appears [EG-xlt]
Expect many new mirrorless cameras to be delayed by the ongoing difficulties in sensor production in Japan, after the earthquake. Camera shipments are already down [TH]
22nd Olympus patent a 28mm/1.4 mirrorless lens for a full frame sensor – see details on the Lens info page
The Hasselblad X1D mirrorless is announced – full details on the Medium Format page
18th Moving up in size… Hasselblad are announcing a ‘mirrorless’ camera using the Sony 50MP sensor next week, on the 22nd. The new camera will supposedly be compatible with existing Hasselblad medium format lenses. No real info other than a small detail of a shot of the camera. [PR] [MT]
Hopefully marking the end of the ‘Hasselbling’ era ;-)
31st There are more suggestions that Nikon is getting serious about moving into the mirrorless market with a new unknown camera showing up in an Indonesian technical registry (typically a few months at most from announcement) [NR]
If Nikon do bring out something full-frame, you can bet that something from Canon won’t be too far behind. I suspect we’ll see a much more advanced EOS-M for Photokina, but think anything full frame is more likely a 2017 product.
We don’t know how big an image circle EF-M mount lenses can manage, so full frame mirrorless might be awaiting some other technical changes.
25th A Canon patent covering pixel microlens design [main rumour page] doesn’t make much difference for normal EF mount DSLRs, but would be distinctly more useful for full frame mirrorless designs.
12th Two mirrorless cameras from Canon this year? [CR]
Looking at the timeline, the M4 looks fairly likely (a variant of the improved 80D sensor is now available), whilst it could also be time for the ’24MP FF’ sensor suggested at CR.
EF-M lenses have a short flange distance and don’t currently cover a full frame image circle. Use of EF lenses would suggest a potentially whole new design.
How about a new row in the timeline for ‘pro FF mirrorless’?
25th Olympus add a 3rd full frame mirrorless lens to their recent patents [EG-Goog xlt] 24mm f/1.4
Will I eventually get my digital OM-2? ;-)
12th What’s Canon announcing in the mirrorless/premium compact line this year?
There is a suggestion[CR] that at least one offering will have 4k video.
The Canon timeline for EOS interchangeable lens cameras is good for showing trends, so an M4 (24MP and improved AF) would seem an obvious guess this year – who knows? it might even be available in the US right from launch.
The only indirect comments I’ve had this year about this were that Canon was not keen to introduce ‘mount confusion’ into the M series with any FF entries, and that the EF lens systems was not for further splitting.
That said, I’ve had no solid info on Canon’s mirrorless range for several months now.
As an aside, I’d note that I’m more inclined to take notice of what Craig says on CR than some of the annonymously run Canon clickbait rumour sites – if you have to hide behind annonymity…
3rd Sony launch a new mirrorless APS-C camera, the a6300 [DPR]
24MP CMOS APS-C sensor with copper wiring
425-point on-sensor phase-detection AF system
11 fps continuous shooting (8fps continuous live view)
Max ISO of 51200
4K video capture up to 100 Mbps
2nd Has Canon seen the mirrorless market and decided to own it? [ASC via Google xlt]
A chance of some high spec mirrorless cameras and lenses too?
27th Fixed lens full frame compact from Canon? [CR]
24th Something ‘different’ in the mirrorless line on its way from Canon? [CR]
22nd Another ‘full size’ patent from Olympus – this time for a 35/1.4 [EG – Google xlt]
16th Could be something lost intranslation, but a patent for a ‘full size’ 28mm f/2 lens appears from Olympus.
Could we yet see a ‘mirrorless’ 35mm full frame OM camera… [EG – Google xlt]
My last film cameras were Olympus OM2/4 and I still use my Zuiko 50/1.2
7th Now it’s Nikon’s turn to pour cold water on the ‘Nikon buys Samsung camera biz’ notion [NR]
3rd There seems to be a rumour going round (thanks to everyone sending it in) that Nikon have bought up all of Samsung’s camera business.
It appeared via various forums and popup ‘rumor’ sites (the ones where the publishers won’t say who’s behind the site ;-) and grew as people looked to conflate assorted wishlists with Samsung deciding to get out of camera making, and a feeling that Nikon needed to do something, this is something, so Nikon must be doing it.
Have a read of a rather more respected rumour site’s views, with Nikonrumors’ 10 reasons it’s probably nonsense… [NR]
I note the NR comments about deliberate fake rumours being produced and suspect I’ve been ‘had’ as well. Certainly, my degree of skepticism of entirely new stuff from new sources has been ratcheted up a bit over the last month or so.
19th New Leica M Typ 262 ‘entry level’ camera announced (~£4k) [B&H]
“Leica M (Typ 262): Focusing on the essentials of M rangefinder photography
19 November 2015
Leica Camera has introduced the Leica M (Typ 262) into its digital rangefinder camera range, joining the Leica M and M-P (Typ 240) and the Leica M Monochrom (Typ 246), now giving photographers the choice of four models.
Incorporating rangefinder technology perfected over many decades, the new M (Typ 262) represents Leica M photography in its purest form, concentrating on the most essential features, combined with intuitive handling and discreet styling. This allows users to focus on the fascination of M photography and, ultimately, on capturing the decisive moment.
As with the other digital M cameras, the Leica M (Typ 262) features a high-resolution CMOS full-frame sensor, designed exclusively for rangefinder photography, but excludes video recording and Live View. The 24-megapixel sensor delivers exceptional image quality and extreme sensitivity, and makes the Leica M (Typ 262) the ideal camera for photography in available light situations. At the same time, the camera’s Maestro processor guarantees fast processing of captured images, ensuring that it is immediately ready to shoot. …”
10th Not just Canon… There’s talk of a new super mirorless from Sony [SAR]
Thanks for all the feedback from yesterday’s stuff
It’s been interesting to see the EOS-M info repeated at ever increasing levels of certainty/rebuttal around the web ;-) It falls well outside of my normal 6 month plausability criteria, but beats hands down some of the assorted stuff we’ve received of late.
9th We’re told (thanks) that Canon is going to launch a ‘Pro’ level mirrorless next year. It won’t come until after the M3 gets an update and several new lenses have been launched.
The key features were:
Expanding the EF-M system
First ConnectedCamera device
New technology sensor (APS-C)
Built in EEVF viewfinder
Pro level AF performance
Best in class video capability
Pro build quality with enhanced ergonomics
Wider support for the EF lens family
The source claims this is from an internal (marketing) presentation and mentioned with other products for the ‘Photkina timeframe’ including the base full frame DSLR [6D mk2 ?], wider 4k video support and a new range of large format printers.
Well, if so, that’s an interesting mix.
It was emphasised to us that there were no specifications given and this was very much a preview.
Whilst there have been numerous ‘hints’ of a pro level mirrorless from Canon, this is the first time I’ve seen anything that expands on the idea.
A new source and a long way in the future, so I have to reach for the pinch of salt.
The only bit I’ve definitely heard of before relates to the chance of the old 17″ iPF5100 finally getting a major overhaul next year (NOT the pro-1000 BTW) where it would fit in with the next step in Canon large format x100 -> x300 -> x400 -> x?00
It would seem that after the astounding success of the Nikon-1 series, they are thinking of moving up to APS-C
29th Two ‘better’ EF-M primes for next year? [CR]
Those would be for crop sensor EOS-M cameras, such as the long hinted ‘more pro’ version.
I must admit that Canon’s mirrorless strategy (as we’ll call it) is still pretty opaque to me ;-)
Surely no coincidence that not long after Canon’s less than stellar finanacials and mention of mirrorless hitting their higher end camera sales, we get a Canon full frame mirrorless rumour for next year.
No details at all before you get too excited ;-) [CR]
My own suspicion is that delays are as much from Canon’s well known paranoia over ‘lesser’ cameras stepping on the toes of ‘better’ models.
13th M10 and other compacts launched [DPR]
12th The M10 appears at the US Canon shop
This from the info section:
Legendary Image Quality in the Palm of Your Hand
The EOS M10 camera features a lightweight, comfortably designed body that’s easy to hold and take with you. From overseas vacations to backyard family gatherings, the EOS M10’s compact size means it can easily be on hand, without getting in the way. A built-in thumb grip also lets you grasp the body securely, while the rounded edges make holding the camera easier when recording long video clips. All this while still featuring the image quality for which Canon EOS cameras are so well known.
Superb Detail With Minimal Noise
The 18.0 Megapixel CMOS sensor captures lots of detail with very little image noise. The sensor itself is APS-C type, which is the same size as the sensor found in Canon’s EOS Rebel series of cameras. The high resolution means you can crop the image to focus on one section, or have enough detail to print large photos to display or give to your family and friends. An ISO range of 100–12800 (expandable to 25600) lets you capture images on bright sunny beaches and darkened streets.
Life happens fast, and there’s little worse than missing out on capturing that perfect moment because the camera was too slow to focus. The EOS M10 camera uses Canon’s Hybrid CMOS AF II autofocus system, which measures up to 49 different points in an image quickly and accurately to help get it in focus. In addition, face detection and object tracking help keep the subject of your photo focused, even if they move. What’s more, the EOS M10 is compatible with all EF-M lenses, which feature an AF+MF mode that lets you easily combine the speed of autofocus with the creative flourish possible with manual focus.
Get the Shot You Want, at Any Angle
It’s vital to see if you’ve composed the photo you want. The EOS M10 camera’s 3.0-inch touch screen has 1.04 million pixels, letting you preview images in high detail. It can pivot a full 180°, meaning you can capture a unique dog’s-eye-view of the world or flip the screen up to get that epic selfie.
Superb Moviemaking Made Easy
The EOS M10 camera can capture 1920×1080 Full HD video at frame rates of both 24p and 30p, and can record in MP4 format for easy sharing online.
Moviemaking Made Easy with Manual Movie Control
The EOS M10 camera is a fine moviemaking tool. With touch-activated AF and a number of manual controls available, it’s easy to make intuitive setting adjustments silently and on the fly using the EOS M10’s dials and touch operations.
8th Update: it’s an M10
Sensor: 18MP CMOS APS-C
LCD: 3″ 1.04 million dots
AF: Hybrid CMOS AF III w/facial recognition and tracking
Kit Lens: EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM
Two Lens Kit:EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM & EF-M 55-200 f/4-6.3 IS STM
EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM lens is ~$300 on its own.
A new ‘entry level’ M series (M4?) is leaked [DCI] and likely an EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM lens to go with it.
27th The M3 is going to be available in the US.
Some links, if you’d like one… Adorama| B&H
21st Suggestions [CR] that an M4 and other ‘M’ items may be appearing in 2016. This time even by Canon in the US.
6th Canon CPN ‘making of’ arti-vert about G3X [Cpn]
5th Suggestions [CR] that the M3 may be officially ‘launched’ by Canon in the US.
26th An EF/EF-S lens adapter for mirrorless appears in a patent (see lenses page)
I’m still not convinced that Canon really ‘gets it’ from a marketing POV, just how the world’s camera market is changing?
18th The 20MP Canon G3X, which was sort of announced a while ago, is finally launched.
Detailed specs / available for pre-order at Adorama.
There is a ‘hands-on’ and more info at DPR
13th Hasselblad bring on the Lusso – a re-styled 36MP A7r [PR]
Yay – more Hasselbling!
10th Sony announce [DPR] the A7R II with an interesting 42MP full frame back illuminated sensor and 5-axis IS. Oh, and 4k video too…
4th Is a new Sony on the way with a 56MP sensor? A Zeiss sample image makes you wonder [SLR]
15th An interesting practical review of using the M3 by Dan Berdal
11th A Canon interview [DPR] (from CP+) mentions mirrorless.
Q Why no M3 in the USA
A Not my fault, ask Canon USA
This seems to have stoked assorted Canon mirrorless rumours about more cameras – I note that none of them seem to have much substance (even for rumours ;-) as yet.
28th I was recently told (thanks) that after a query to Canon about the EOS M3, the response suggested that the noise/DR perfomance of the new 24MP sensor was on a par with the 18MP in the 700D and that video performance was not up to the level of the 7D mk2
27th A Canon patent for an EF-M 9-18mm F3.5-4.5 [EG – Google xlt]
13th Seems that if you want an M3 in Europe, there is only going to be the kit option (18-55) available. No other kits, no EVF, no EF adapter… [EM]
…so no hope of me wanting one.
Canon really is telling the rest of the world to ignore their mirrorless options for the time being.
7th I’ve set up a specific page for all EOS M3 information I find.
5th Some M3 specs (DCI, as earlier)
– 24.2MP CMOS sensor (22.3 x 14.9mm)
– AF is 49 points. Hybrid CMOS AF
– Media SD / SDHC / SDXC (UHS-I compatible)
– DIGIC6 processor
– Continuous shooting 4.2 frames / sec.
– 384 zone metering
– Battery LP-E17
– The shutter speed is 30 seconds -1/4000 seconds
– Video full HD
– Built-in flash
– LCD monitor tilting 3 inches 1.04 million dots. Touch panel
– GPS is not equipped
– EVF option (EVF-DC1)
– The body is stainless steel, magnesium alloy, polycarbonate
– The size 110.9 x 68.0 x 44.4mm
– Weight 366g
27th An M3 is quite likely to be announced later next week (see main rumour page) in time for CP+
3rd No signs of an EOS-M at PMA-CES yet. Next week may see an announcement, but new Powershot cameras are more likely [CR]
10th A Canon patent for an EF-M 70-400 f4.5-7.2 appears [EG – Google xlt]
4th Assorted wishful mutterings about a full frame mirrorless camera and a rangefinder from Canon get a quite reasonable CR0 at CR ;-)
A version of that 70D sensor looks good for an EOS M model, but there are also the 700D and 100D updates waiting for it.
22nd We’re told that the next EOS-M will feature at PMA/CES in Vegas at the start of January. This could explain the mentions of December for an announcement, since the show runs from the 6th to the 9th.
17th An odd time for replacement?, but a new EOS M is suggested for December [CR]
10th An interesting Panasonic patent for a variable focal length optical viewfinder with hybrid features 
Nikon has the idea of adding a hot-shoe connector to the top of an external EVF [EG-Goog xlt]
24th Canon mirrorless not dead yet… Canon Photokina interview [DPR]
Mirrorless: “…We are serious. We are really focused on mirrorless and we’re spending lots of time, and devoting a lot of manpower to scaling up mirrorless development right now. ”
Expect a variant of the the 70D sensor to appear in an EOS-M before too long?
21st Photokina comes and goes – nothing for the EOS-M enthusiasts. A new mount is mentioned, although make of this Google translation what you will, but there certainly appears to be mentions of mirrorless too [DCW-Goog xlt]. There is also mention of more lenses for EF-M.
There was a G7X [PDF manual] – if you’re into such cameras, there is some good comparison info at [DPR]
Once again only designed for people who wear glasses all the time or not at all.
Those of us who need reading glasses get no EVF – this is one reason that tablets are so great for photography if you are long sighted – you can hold them far enough away -and- see what’s in the frame ;-)
19th Long lenses for the EOS-M…
Canon announce an EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM lens for the EOS-M, and Tamron announce a 18-200mm F/3.5-6.3 Di III VC with EF-M mount. See lens rumours page for more details and specs.
The DPR ‘interview’ sounds like a pitch for photographers who want their images to ‘look different’ and ‘visually differentiate’ their work. Expect a lot of stuff that will ‘look different’ in exactly the same way. ;-)
Could this be another lensbaby, or another HDR?
I’m sure there will be some very interesting results appearing, but given the speed that good ideas get copied, it’s going to take more than some fancy hardware/software if you want to differentuiate your work…
That said, it’s a development I welcome and can’t wait to see how it looks in a few years time
A video example shows lots of (young/attractive) people using it for focus pulls – no place for anyone over 30 in this world it would seem? ;-)
22nd Lytro move ‘pro’ with a new camera this summer ~2.5MP …just like 1999 ;-) [TH]
Will Sony be the first to bring a curved sensor to market?
Suggestions that the follow up to the RX1 (RX2?) will indeed have a curved sensor [SAR]
Not having a flat image plane allows for a lot of changes in lens formulae. If they can do it reliably, then it’s going to make for some interesting results.
14th We’re told that an ‘M3’ needs to be added to yesterday’s Q3 announcement list (on main rumours page) and that there will be two models available, one with much more thought for ‘prosumer’ buyers.
Presumably this will include something like the Electronic Viewfinder EVF-DC1 on the G1X II?
At the moment, my ‘small camera’ is a 100D. I’ve realised that for the image quality I want, I’m going to have hefty lenses attached, so some of the size advantage is a little academic…
Meanwhile, pictures emerge of the solid metal body for the upcoming Leica T 701 (APS-C) [LR]
Leica T lenses will not have aperture rings and will be produced by Panasonic
Leica VARIO-ELMAR-T ASPH 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 zoom lens (27-84mm equivalent)
Leica SUMMICRON-T ASPH 23mm f/2 prime lens (35mm equivalent)
5th The Sony A7s is due tomorrow, 12MP sensor and 4k video [SAR]
31st Time to update the G16 to G17? [CR] – 24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens | New 1″ Sensor | DIGIC 6
24th The manual for the G1X mk2 is available for download [PDF]
Two Hasselbling Lunar cameras go under the auctioneers hammer for $54,000 …Unfortunately, the hammer missed, but at least the money was raised for charity. [HB]
19th Samsung have a go at the 1″ sensor market, with the NX mini, with 3 lenses [DPR]
17th Epson decide to stop making the R-D1x digital rangefinder camera.
The ‘x’ version was only ever a Japanese product, following on from the original 2004 R-D1
Strangely enough, it was a bit ahead of its time, with it’s retro design and styling not being out of place today with a better sensor and electronics. The price tag never helped though ;-)
See an early review [LL] or a site devoted to the camera [R-D1]
13th Nikon 1 series V3 announced [DPR] with an interesting ‘what am I missing here’ article also [DPR]
Only ~$1200 for a ‘starter kit’. For just another ~$1k you can have a 1 Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR lens (that’s 810 mm equivalent, given the 2.7x crop of the Nikon 1 cameras)
11th A7 & A7R reviews by Thom Hogan [SM]
7th Publicity from Leica over a new mirrorless system for April 24th [LR] German camera, but with some (power zoom) Panasonic devleoped lenses and Leica primes.
1st No M2 from us says Canon US.
There are often significant differences between parts of Canon and between reqions/countries, but rarely are they so obvious ;-)
28th Canon in Japan mention that they will be bringing the EOS-M2 to Europe and maybe the US.
An interview [IR] discusses this and the challenges of on chip AF
16th There is a Canon PDF about the development of the G1X mk2
13th Yesterday’s 7D successor specs come from a Panasonic PDF documment for the GH4 – only one mention of the 7D sucessor, but an awful lot about the GH4.
12th The G1X II is announced:
MELVILLE, N.Y., February 11, 2014 – Building upon the success of the PowerShot G1 X digital camera, Canon U.S.A. Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today unveiled its new flagship PowerShot G1 X Mark II, a digital camera designed to meet the evolving needs of today’s professional and advanced amateur photographers.
Boasting a sensor that is 4.5x larger than a 1/1.7” sensor found in professional level point-and-shoot cameras, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera can produce high-quality images with a wide dynamic range. It features a new type of 1.5-inch, 12.8 Megapixel High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor, made by Canon, allowing for optimum performance with an ISO range of 100-12800. This sensor, combined with the DIGIC 6 Image Processor, comprises the Canon HS SYSTEM resulting in faster autofocusing speeds over the PowerShot G1 X camera, allowing photographers to capture detailed, vivid images even in low-light conditions.
Featuring a newly-developed f/2.0 – f/3.9, 5x optical zoom lens (equivalent 24-120mm zoom range) with Dual Control Rings, this new camera provides customized zooming and focus-functionality similar to a DSLR camera. With this wide of an aperture, photographers have the ability to isolate their subjects by separating them from a background that is blurred. This gives more control and creative possibilities when using a PowerShot camera. The Dual Control Rings include a Step Ring to adjust various customizable settings and a Continuous Ring to make focusing adjustments during manual focus, as well as additional customizable settings for manual shooting. This new lens features a nine-blade aperture to provide beautiful, blurred backgrounds even at full-zoom range.
It seems that Canon has not been keen to show this camera much in advance, so there is a brief ‘We looked at one’ article at DPR
The EVF also appears:
An optional Electronic Viewfinder EVF-DC1 slots into the PowerShot G1 X Mark II’s accessory hotshoe to offer traditional handling and composition. XGA resolution with 2.36 million dots and a quick refresh rate make shooting natural and enjoyable. A proximity sensor detects when the viewfinder is raised to the eye and the EVF can be pivoted through 90 degrees for low-angle or waist-level shooting.
There is also a CPN article about the camera
11th Hands up – now it looks real ;-)
Full details leaked on the Bestbuy website [PR]
13.1 mp in 4:3 format
12.8 mp in 3:2 format
1.5″ CMOS Sensor
3fps with AF, 5fps with focus locked
3″ tilting touch LCD
Two Control Rings
Creative shot, Multi-scene IS
Price: $799 USD
Quite a few chnges from the G1X
GiX II images at PR
10th More suggestions that the EVF below is real and will appear this week at CP+ and called the EVF-DC1
Sigma announce three versions of their DP2 Quatro.
In an interesting nod to the difficulties of the Foveon design, the pixels are stacked, but there are four blue pixels over each red and green one.
Full press release info at DPR
9th Thanks for all the emails and suggestions about that image…
One of the less conspiratorial suggested that the viewfinder is ‘genuine’, but the camera not, and that it represents an internal ‘product concept’ mockup that’s been leaked.
Whatever it is, it’s been interesting to see the reactions over losing the optical VF of the current model.
At least CP+ is not too far away (opens on Thursday 13th)
8th Update – several people have suggested that this is actually genuine and that the edge of the zoom ring is just lost in shadow. I’m not inclined to agree, there is too much that doesn’t quite look right.
We will see ;-)
An image of the upcoming G1X II is widely circulated. Specs are said to be: 24-120mm f/2 – 3.9 lens, DIGIC 6, priced around $700
In the largest image we were sent (thanks) it’s noticeable that the camera body seems to show camera shake whilst the lens and OVF are pin sharp.
This one appears to be the same as the one sent to [CR] before they applied their watermark (checked with PS and there is no sign of the mark in the version we were sent). However, look further and I believe it’s a FAKE (note the abrupt end of the zoom ring).
Still, lots of sites seem to have rushed to accepting it without and there are lengthy discussions about Canon’s design ‘decisions’… Not sure about the fakery? Move your mouse over this image to see a steep curve applied, and look at the edge of the lens.
And yes – I have been caught out by fakes in the past ;-)
If this image were real, then I’d welcome signs that we might see a decent size/quality EVF on an EOS-M some time.
Note that just because the image is ‘altered’ doesn’t mean that the camera specs are not possible?
15th What might we see for CP+? There is a suggestion that it won’t be a 7D2, but a “not professional” camera [CR] How about a Canon G2X/G1 X Mk2 ?
The G1 X was announced in January 2012 [See below]
Various new model specs have been appearing on forums, but seem to centre around a 20MP Digic 6 based camera with a longer range lens than the G1 X (28-112)
One such set of specs [XT – Goog xlt]
– G1X shape and size, the lens is slightly longer
– DIGIC 6 Image Processor
– 24 – 120mm F2.8 (wide angle) to F5.8 (telephoto) lens
– 20.2 million pixels 1.5″ CMOS sensor
– New optical zoom viewfinder
– 3.0″ LCD, ~922k pixel capacitive touch screen
13th For those of you not entirely convinced why the Hasselblad Lunar is widely regarded as a bit of a joke, have a read of the press release for the Hasselblad Lunar Limited Edition. Only 200 people will get the chance to show they really do have more money than sense…
“This is a unique opportunity for a very small number of discerning photographers who want high-spec shooting capability linked with matchless Italian craftsmanship in a point and shoot camera, to invest in a photo-capture icon.”
Read more of this marketing drivel at [HB] – Do those colours look familiar?
13th A new 40/0.85 is announced for mirrorless, inc. EOS-M – full details on lens page
9th Canon hints that it’s serious about EOS-M, with an interview from the top. [DCW via Google xlt]
– A new EOS M camera with built-in EVF could arrive in the second half of 2014 .
– The focus on EOS M systems is to keep size down
– Hybrid still+video performance is a key aspect on Canon’s future mirrorless cameras development
– There will be new lenses for the EOS M system
– Canon is also considering the possibility to make a more semi pro if not pro mirrorless cameras
– Canon is committed to the EOS Cinema line
OK, so there is likely to be a bit “stick with us, we’ve got some great stuff coming”, but it’s interesting to see Canon droping a few well planned hints, such as agreeing that next year will be a ‘year of the lens’ (2013 wasn’t) and referring to an ongoing refresh of the EF lens line.
If anyone can extract more meaning from the interview, and the famously elliptical answers that you get from senior Japanese management, then please do let me know?
3rd The EOS-M2 appears via Canon China and Canon Japan
Due for mid-December release in Japan. No UK/US news AFAIK
18 MP APS C
Hybrid CMOS AF II
AF speed is 2-3 times faster than EOS-M
Servo AF for Video
ISO 12800 (ISO 25600 top)
8% reduction of body size (volume)
Wi-Fi, remote control with phone, iMAGE GATAWAY for image xfer
Split pixels AF needs to appear more widely before it moves down to EOS-M. It makes for a simple update for a more advanced ‘M’ with 21MP split pixel AF some time next year, to start to fill out the EOS-M range.
13th The EOS-M2 seems to have been delayed. Early next year is the most common suggestion we’ve had. There are some shows early on in 2014 (CES in Vegas and CP+ in Japan), so maybe then?
We’re told (thanks) that several of the new lenses due next year are EF-M
1st But wait, there’s more…
Hasselblad release three new ‘Stellar Special Edition’ compact cameras. [HB]
“The latest Stellar models offer photographers the choice of three new camera body colours: black, white and orange – and ship with bespoke camera cases in black or white leather with signature stitching and shoulder and wrist straps.”
A bargain at around £2200 – sales to nudge double digits?
Has anyone ever seen anyone with a Lunar/Stellar?
25th More patents from Canon [EG-xlt] 35mm F1.4 , 50mm F1.4 , 50mm F1.8 (Macro APS-C) – looks like EOS-M lens designs.
Another patent adds an accessory shoe to a mount adapter. Examples include a flash mount and external grip.
Interesting, but the idea does seem to be influenced by some of the headless chickem behaviour induced by the new Sony ;-) Have a read of some of Thom Hogan’s thoughts, for a counter to some of the less well informed hype… [TH]
17th A nice small camera from Panasonic, the GM1 DPR
16th In a widely leaked move, sure to cause a lot of chatter on the forums, Sony announce two full frame mirrorless cameras.
There’s a short hands-on look at DPR
24.3 MP FF CMOS sensor with OLPF [A7]
36.3 MP FF CMOS sensor with no OLPF [A7R]
E-mount with support for FE, E, and A-mount lenses (with adapter)
Bionz X image processor
Hybrid AF with 25 contrast-detect and 117 phase-detect points [A7 only]
Weather sealed magnesium alloy body
3-inch tilting LCD with 1.23 million dots
XGA (2.4 million dot) electronic viewfinder
Full HD video recording at 1080/60p and 24p; uncompressed HDMI out
Wi-Fi with NFC capability and downloadable apps
A range of adapters should provide support for a lot of old manual lenses.
Is there a market for such cameras? If it does sell well, then expect some more manufacturers to look for their own moves into the ‘Leica-like’ market.
Meanwhile it seems that someone from Canon has been eyeing the Hasselbling range, since Canon are going to be offering ‘limited edition’ G16 and S120 cameras [AH]
Not the full ‘CanoBling’, but obviously someone from Canon marketing has decided that it’s time to pursue more customers with a bit too much cash.
21st An EOS M2 is noticed in the listing of supported cameras in the latest version of DPP – no specs
19th Weather/waterproof Nikon 1 camera and 2 lenses announced [DPR]
18th Rumours of EOS-M updates continue, but no detaled specs as yet.
A ruggedised N1 is expected this week [NR]
3rd Two new EOS-M cameras to come? [CR] One a cheaper version of the current model and one the long predicted move ‘up-market’ including perhaps an EVF
No news on the Canon focal reducer we’ve heard of in the past… (see Jul 7th below)
1st Interesting suggestion of a camera to come from Sony, with a moveable sensor [SAR]
The curious angle is that it could support Canon and Nikon lenses…
27th Sony announces a new A3000 – E Mount and 20MP. but with OVF and ‘SLR styling’ – thoughts about it at DPR
22nd A flurry of camera updates from Canon – new G16 and S120 – details of all at DPR
20th Several suggestions [CR] that whilst we will see another EOS-M, there seems to be no rush (‘at least one by Christmas’)
20th After the ripping success of the Mk.1 Hasselbling (the ‘Lunar’), pictures of the Mk.2 appear
The $1600-$3200 ‘Stellar’ is based on a $650 Sony RX100. It comes with a range of at least six different exotic wood grips (hence the price variations). Launch due later this week…
More at [PR]
18th After the recent sale prices on the EOS-M, it seems that some outlets are describing it as ‘discontinued’.
11th For some reason, Canon in the US say that the EF-M 11-22 will not be marketed in the US [Canon US forum]
7th The EOS-M has been widely up for sale at $299 of late. Several places are showing as out of stock, which if nothing else suggests that Canon’s firesale has worked to clear stocks.
We’re told (thanks) that an EOS-M with the new dual pixel sensor won’t be shipping until after the 70D (September) and that a basic EOS-M upgrade with the 18MP sensor will precede it.
Also mentioned is a Canon version of a focal reducer being developed for EF lenses, this will be announced with the 20MP dual-pixel sensor version of the EOS-M.
This model is said to be aimed very much at full frame EOS users as a ‘pro-level’ camera, and will feature an optional full viewfinder.
Sounds interesting – the sort of camera setup that I’d find a use for – I’m giving this one a moderate pinch of salt since details were sparse, but if it’s for real, then info should surface before too much longer.
27th EOS-M firmware 2.02
Improves focusing speed in One-Shot AF mode.
Supports EF-M11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM. (When placing the EF-M11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM without conducting the firmware update, at times the EOS M will not function. However this is rare)
Corrects errors in the Simplified Chinese, Hungarian, Traditional Chinese and Korean language menu
19th Suggestions that the new EOS-M firmware does indeed bump up its AF performance AF testing – set of YT videos comparing performance.
10th Queues (lines) are building in the US at stores with stocks of the Hasselbling Lunar.
The rush to spend $7000 on a Nex 7 plus “Italian Design with Swedish Tradition” should be something to behold.
6th Full details for the Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM on the main new lenses page
New V2.0 firmware for the EOS-M is also promised – faster AF will be welcome. There are details from Canon’s New Zealand branch…
Further enhancing the performance and utility of the EOS M, Canon also announces today a firmware upgrade that boosts the AF shutter speed, making One Shot AF up to 2.3x faster1. The new firmware delivers improved performance as a result of a reworked AF Drive Control System and Canon encourages all existing users of the EOS M to download the new firmware version 2 once it becomes available at the end of June 2013.
3rd Is there a new lens on the way for the EF-M range – EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM [DCI Google xlt]
The promo pics all push the precision/luxury angle, although initial reports are hardly glowing…
16th One or two EOS-M bodies due before long? Seems more likely than DLSR bodies, according to the pretty minimal amounts of info we’re seeing.
13th Another less than overwhelming review of the build quality of a HasselBling [GTW]
12th There are suggestions of a Canon event at the end of the month – we’re told that a new EOS-M is much more likely than any DSLRs, but compacts are more likely (‘leaked images’ of S200 and SX500 replacement are seen)…
A Hasselbling is sighted in Hong Kong, and after a brief test, comes the question – Why? [TM]
There are reports that a Metabones focal length reducer is being developed for EOS-M
I’ve been expecting to see this from Canon for some time (at a hefty price ;-), it would be great for those of us who like wide EF primes ;-)
If you’ve not seen it before, there’s an excellent overview of such reducers at LensRentals
26th Reports of a delay until the summer for the Hasselbling (maybe deciding using the innards from the NEX7 replacement) [AP].
Meanwhile, there are suggestions that we will see a reboot of the EOS-M range with a replacement, lenses and a higher end model [CR].
27th News on the Hasselbling Lunar – a new HB site gushes with such effusive tosh as:
“Lunar is unique because each model is perfected one by one, yet different as only the hand of an artist can make them. Our collection comprises five models, each with their own form and style. The functionality and specification of each model is identical – choosing your grip and top plate material lets you reflect your individuality.”
Yes, buying one certainly would say a lot about you… ;-)
21st Will the Hasselbling actually get made? [SAR]
20th Last year there was an interesting photograph of a collection of Samsung prototype cameras – some new info suggests that a ‘full frame’ mirrorless camera will be a 2014 product (2014 seems likely to see quite a few moves into the ‘large sensor’ market) [MR]
16th Some suggestions that this week will see the second member of the EOS-M family.
6th It looks as if there will be no EF->MFT electronic adapter from Kippon – said to be patent related 
4th I visited the Focus photography show today – the Hasselbling was on show, but no jewel encrusted versions :-(
A few other (bigger) shots on my G+ page
24th Some suggested specs for the next EOS-M [CR]
New AF system
Removable Hight res EVF
Slightly larger than the current EOS M
Introduced with 3 more lenses
19th At Pentax forums [PF], there’s a supposed copy of a page from Japanese magazine “Camera Japan”, there’s a slew of ‘predictions’ for 2013 Canon 70D for March, 700D for June, EOS Me for July, 7D Mk2 for August ad an EOS 3D for October.Quite a collection ;-) Picture on main rumours page.
It’s now suggested that the firmware update won’t change AF that much [CR]
Is Nikon about to produce an APS-C compact? [NR]
11th Firmware update EOS-M to improve AF performance amongst other tweaks, should be announced before too long [CR]
23rd Every so often a new gadget catches people’s attention, and the popular one at the moment is the Metabones focal reducer. A device I’ve seen used on telescopes for some time, it basically reduces focal length, increases effective aperture and – if well designed and made – makes for a sharper image. If this sounds like something for nothing then you need to allow for the fact that it reduces your lens’s image circle.
However, if you are using it to match the large image circle of an EF lens, to the smaller APS-C sensor of a mirrorless camera like the NEX or EOS-M, then it seems pretty much a win all round. There’s a good look at what it can do on the Lensrentals site – by someone who knows about lens testing.
Do note though that this isn’t going to work with your 7D or Rebel – the mirror gets in the way of any reducer optics. What it does mean is that if there is an EF->EF-M version, then my old 50/1.4 could work like a 35/1 on a future ‘pro’ EOS-M body (hopefully with a decent viewfinder). Include focus peaking and I could use my old manual focus Olympus 50/1.2 as a 35/0.9
A reducer like this, makes a small sensor camera a lot more interesting for someone like myself, with a collection of very wide EF lenses.
How long until Canon produces a version? Just how expensive, is the other question that pops into my head ;-)
17th Suggestions for three new lenses for the EOS-M (prime, zoom and super-zoom) – another body should be along, but not yet awhile I think [CR]
15th Full frame Samsung NX-R mirrorless in a few months? [MLR]
1st A general collection of what to expect from Canon rumours appeared on the Xitec forum in China. – see the Impress magazine page on the main Canon rumours page
Canon 7D Mark II may come with newly developed CMOS sensor, 10fps continuous shooting speed and ISO expendable upto 25600.
Canon 70D will have same sensor / ISO range as 7D Mark II, but its continuous shooting speed limited to 3fps.
Canon EOS M2 will arrive on 2013
Canon 1DSx is also expected to arrive at 2013.
|Type||Diagonal (mm)||Width (mm)||Height (mm)||Area (mm2)||Crop factor|
|m4/3 · 4/3″ (Four Thirds)||21.60||17.30||13||225||2.00|
|Sigma Foveon X3||24.90||20.70||13.80||286||1.74|
|General APS-C (Nikon, Pentax, Sony/Minolta, Samsung)||28.2-28.4||23.6-23.7||15.60||368-370||1.52-1.54|
|35mm Full-frame, Nikon D3, Nikon D700||43.2-43.3||36||23.9-24.3||860-864||1.0|
|Kodak KAF 39000 CCD||61.30||49||36.80||1803||0.71|
|Leaf AFi 10||66.57||56||36||2016||0.65|
|Phase One P 65+, IQ160, IQ180||67.40||53.90||40.40||2178||0.64|
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