Canon rumours archive page – 2015
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27th Time for on-chip A/D conversion for Canon sensors? A Canon image sensor patent [USPTO]
Improving pixel based AF in bright light [USPTO]
15th More legal stuff about Canon US’s attempt to kill off ‘grey market’ sales [PB]
13th Speedlite 600EX-RT and Speedlite Transmitter ST-E3-RT Firmware Notice [CR]
9th More hints that Sony may introduce a curved sensor. [sR]
Great for fixed lens cameras, less so for interchangeable
Epson introduce a new 4.41 million dot LCD for EVF designs. 0.66″ diagonal with larger colour gamut and SXGA resolution (1280 x 1024 x 3) [Epson via Google xlt]
Does the camera look familiar?
7th Nikon also pours cold water on the ‘Nikon buys Samsung camera biz’ notion [NR]
5th Some other sensor development related snippets for your weekend (go back down the page for loads more patent related links)
Sony paid ~$160 million for Toshiba’s sensor business [iSW]
Panasonic are restarting their sensor development – 8k for 2018 [NK]
A new Canon patent shows more tricks you can do with split pixels for AF [USPTO]
Note how the non AF pixels are also multiples.
Canon ideas about dividing longer exposures into shorter ones and adding them together [USPTO]
Canon ideas about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens [USPTO]
AMS buy CMOSIS (they make some Leica sensors) [LR]
Canon ideas for using pixels for AF and normal imaging [USPTO] – more explanation of split pixel AF use
4th Echoing a Nikon patent from November last year (7th) Canon look at ways of subdividing pixels into high and low sensitivity sub pixels or even high/medium/low triplets [USPTO]
Variations of this approach have been tried by numerous manufacturers, going back to Fuji nearly 10 years ago. Designing the pixels is one thing, making all the rest of the circuitry to process the information for every pixel has been slower to appear.
1st The long running Pentax ‘full frame’ announcement moves onward with a teaser page including the cryptic:
“Coming up in spring 2016! PENTAX is launching a digital SRL [sic] with a brand-new format.”
Of course that could just be marketing speak for ‘a new sensor format for our range of cameras’ It can’t be too far from 36mm x 24mm if they want compatibility with existing lenses, so cue the 30mm x 30mm square sensor (and other options with a similar image circle) forum discussions ;-)
26th Something that surfaces every so often is that Canon is actively looking to acquire other companies to expand aspects of their business. Some new talk at [CR]
25th A Canon patent for applying one of their anti-reflection coatings to a filter, to minimise ghosting [EG via Google xlt]
There’s enough confirmation coming from different regions to say quite clearly that Samsung is getting out of the camera market.
See Thom Hogan’s comments [TH]
Samsung have enough other business activities to not worry too much about such a relatively small market .
The same thing is distinctly less so with several of the camera makers.
19th A general ‘state of the rumours’ note… See the latest timeline below.
The only cameras I keep hearing of are the replacements for the 1D X and 5D3.
If both have not appeared by February I’d genuinely be surprised
…in as much as cameras not appearing surprises me after running these pages since 2004 ;-)
6D and 100D replacements are a good bet for 2016, but don’t expect a 6D mk2 until all remaining 5D3 stocks have been cleared and 5D4 sales have had a good run.
70D replacement? maybe a 70Da, but unless Canon see a real need to introduce some new technology, an 80D is an outside bet for later next year.
1200D replacement – only if Digic4 chips run out…
EOS-M4 and a more pro version?
Probably just a ‘4’ for the time being
I have distinct doubts about the veracity of the pro-M info we received
Large printers – more new ones likely from Epson and Canon, but it looks as if the only 17″ from Canon will be the PRO-1000 (iPF5100 passed over again).
I’ve just published the review of Macphun’s new Aurora HDR software
Useful even for people like me who really dislike the lurid “HDR look” ;-)
18th Canon have announced that EOS camera production has just passed the 80 million mark.
“United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, 18 November 2015 – Canon Inc. today announces it has reached a new camera-manufacturing milestone as combined production of its film and digital EOS-series interchangeable-lens cameras surpassed the 80-million mark on November 10, 2015. The 80-millionth EOS camera produced was an EOS 5DS R, which boasts the world’s highest pixel count in its class.
Production of Canon EOS SLR cameras began in 1987 and rapidly increased following the spread of digital SLR cameras in the early 2000s, bringing the company to the present day and the production of its 80-millionth EOS camera.”…
A patent from Panasonic [EG via Google xlt] covers the arrangement of coloured filters in the filter array of a sensor to optimise demosaicing and colour accuracy. Ignore the repeated mention of Foveon in the translation – this is about getting better results from a single layer sensor and like all schemes is a matter of trading off different aspects of performance.
X-Rite have just published the Second part of my article about the business side of being a photographer
11th For some thoughtful analysis of Nikon’s latest figures have a read of Thom Hogan’s comments [TH]
I mention it because it gives a good feel for the issues facing all of the camera industry, not just Nikon.
The figures were jumped on by many a site, at the time, as a sign of a turnaround – not how I saw it, but I wanted to hear what someone with a lot more experience of picking the numbers apart had to say.
I may be a Canon user, but I want to see a strong healthy Nikon
I’ve just finished a review of the new Topaz Texture Effects plugin and hope, in a week or two, to have a detailed review of Macphun’s new Aurora HDR creation program. It’s not shipping yet but worth checking out (there is a special pre-order offer). If like me you find much that is labelled HDR as utterly tawdry, then don’t be put off by it is being promoted in association with Trey Ratcliff. My initial experiments with it confirm that a lot of work has gone into making it good for subtle use of HDR as well as the gaudy and painful (YMMV ;-)
X-Rite have just published the first part of my article about the business side of being a photographer. In due course I’ll be producing an extended version for this site – hope it’s of some interest ;-)
9th 6D2, big printers and a ‘pro’ EOS-M for photokina? An interesting set of comments on the mirrorless page
Just for once a short Canon video where I didn’t begrudge the 3 mins viewing time ;-)
What happens when you ask six photographers to take a few portrait shots of the same person.
4th Step back through the development of phone cameras at EET
31st A bit of further analysis of camera numbers doesn’t seem to offer much to suggest that the decline is over.
Some initial figures from Mayflower [MF]
The figures over the next six months should prove interesting – I’m expecting further declines, once you allow for seasonal and regional variations. For his usual aposite comments do have a read of some of Thom Hogan’s observations [TH]
29th With vague ‘full frame mirrorless’ and ‘two types of 5D4’ rumours doing the rounds, it looks as if the lack of significant cameras and Canon’s financials have stirred the pot, with a combination of ‘what everyone expects’ (5D3 replacement) and ‘what people want’ (full frame mirrorless).
The Canon 120MP FF sensor is hinted as ‘something different’ [cw] – can anyone say ‘Foveon’ ;-)
It’s ~47MP at APS-C, or if it was a three layer sensor, it would (if you don’t use Sigma maths) be a 40MP sensor but with full non-interpolated pixels. Calling that 120MP is a bit of a stretch (OK, not for a marketing dept.)
We are indeed in the rumours silly season ;-)
27th Canon Q3 financials published [Reut]
Profits are down, it’s those pesky phones again…
26th Slow day in rumourland?
Along with several of the rumour sites, I was sent info about Canon testing other manufacturers’ sensors in DSLRs. Apart from the fact that I’d expect them to be doing this quite often anyway, it doesn’t fit well with a company currently showcasing its own 250MP sensor around the world, and showing off other technology developments. They do already use Sony sensors in some of the small cameras.
This story could partly be inspired by Sony buying up Toshiba’s sensor business [ISW]
23rd Looks like the PRO-1000 printer was the only big announcement timed for the Photo Plus show in NYC.
Big camera shows just don’t have the reach or importance they did 10 years ago. They are not cheap to exhibit at and more companies are taking a serious look at whether they are worth the cost.
I expect we’ll see the 1D X mk2 early next year, but there are a few cameras queuing up in the lengthening update cycle
5D3/6D/100D – not to mention a ‘pro’ EOS-M model ;-)
DPP and other Canon software updated (Canon software page)
Mainly just updates for newer kit.
The Pentax full frame DSLR gets a little closer, appearing (behind glass) at the Photo Plus show in the US
Pic via Adorama
21st The Canon Pro1000 17″ desktop printer is announced in the US.
Full information on our Canon Pro1000 information page
18th Two pixel design patents from Samsung show different ways of splitting up the colours from one pixel [ISW]
First has colour splitting mirrors
The second used graded refractive index changes to ‘steer’ light to different sensing areas.
This looks to be a version of a Samsung patent from February this year (Feb 21st below)
Meanwhile, just in case you thought we had too many pixels, there is info about single photon sensor research, and the Quanta Image Sensor (QIS) [DM]
16th Important new FAA regulations regarding Lithium batteries mean that you can no longer pack spares (i.e. not in equipment) in checked luggage. For more details see the notes on our Canon battery page.
15th The long awaited Pentax full frame DSLR gets a few more drips of info [PR] 36MP? Fast AF and super resolution mode (sensor shift) works hand held…
Coming real soon
Meanwhile Sony put a full frame 42MP sensor into the RX1R II with its fixed 35mm f/2 lens [DPR]
A key techy feature is the ability to fine tune the amount of low pass filter applied and even bracket it.
This feels more and more like the extra switches and options you used to get with new models of Hi-Fi back in the 70’s and 80’s ;-) Details at [ISW]
14th Canon bring out some small cameras such as the M10, but no signs of anything bigger yet, not even the new range of larger printers (17″ to 60″) which were on show at the recent Expo (see Canon printer page)
New 4k/5k iMacs have a larger colour space screen, but it’s a video one, DCI-P3 not A98. More info from Thom Hogan
1st In a firmware update I applaud, even if I wonder just how many people saw the problem, Canon address exposure issues for those using the TS-E17 and TS-E24 tilt shift lenses.
“Fixes a phenomenon in which the captured image may exhibit uneven exposure when the camera is used with a TS-E 17mm f/4L or TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II lens which is shifted or tilted during shooting.” 1200D/T5 page.
It’s normal practice to do any metering with the lens unshifted – perhaps this is a video thing?
I do wonder just how many people regularly use such lenses with a 1200D…
28th A Canon patent [EG via Google xlt] seems to refer to an improved sensor based AF system where phase AF pixels are augmented with some aspects of ‘light field’ processing.
There’s just not much detail in the link above, but I’m sure the use of the term ‘light field’ will ensure wide levels of speculation ;-)
Look for numerous images of lines and boxes in posts that don’t actually tell you anything.
24th Maybe it was just ‘no more compacts’ – Samsung comments [IR]
Sounds more reasonable
Assorted mix of things possible from Canon in October [CR]
Pro-1000 17″ printer
PowerShot G16 replacement
PowerShot S120 replacement
EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM
A second EF-M lens
No signs of a 1Dx 2 or 5D4 in the mix at the moment, although there is a guy on the DPReview forums who says they are coming really soon now… ;-)
Is Sony looking to quietly let the A mount wither?
I’m rewriting the entire site and was re-arranging the Sony rumours section (true, never a big section) and noticed that we’ve not seen anything in that area for quite some time. It seems that E mount is (currently) the way they want to go?
That said, the new uncompressed RAW files can make a significant difference to some types of image [DPR] I just wonder why such an obvious improvement was ignored for so long?
19th Samsung getting out of camera making? Is the NX line at an end? [PR]
Missed the Canon Expo in New York? Visit the online version
18th Pentax camera announcements… They do have a history of drifting somewhat (the 645 went on for years)
It was first mentioned in February [PR]
The Pentax ‘full frame’ DSLR moves from a predicted October announcement to a more official ‘Spring 2016’ [Pentax]
16th Interesting (and for once relatively informative) interview with Canon’s head about cameras and printers
Do read the full article [IR], but here are the headlines:
– Canon’s R&D budget for cameras and lenses hasn’t been hurt by investments in other areas; funding has been level to slightly up recently
– Canon isn’t ceding the mirrorless market; on the contrary, they appear to be working on an enthusiast-grade EOS-M model
– You can expect more EF-M lenses, as well
– There’s more love coming to Canon’s APS-C lens lineup, too; they’ve been working top-down, and it’s APS-C’s time now
– Don’t expect 4K in consumer SLRs and other cameras soon; they have cost battles to fight first
– It’ll be a long time before 8K ever comes to consumer or even handheld cameras
– Canon is moving to on-sensor A/D conversion across the board (we expect to see improved dynamic range as a result)
– Canon DSLRs aren’t necessarily constrained to use Canon sensors; we could see chips from other manufacturers at some point
– Look for a new line of high-end inkjet printers from Canon very soon.
– Look for some form of increased integration between Canon printers and Canon cameras in particular
– It doesn’t sound like Canon will be following Epson’s lead with pricier printers but cheaper ink
At least one printer will be the 17″ [ImagePROGRAF Pro-1000?] – see the Canon Printer rumours page
September 15th Epson US announce the SureColor replacements for the SP7890/7900 SP9890/9900 24″ and 44″ printers
See the main Epson Rumours/News page for details
At last… Sony think about uncompressed RAW files [AU]
This removes one of my longstanding issues with the small Sony bodies – it remains to be seen just how many existing cameras this is rolled out to.
Sony Electronics, a worldwide leader in digital imaging and the world’s largest image sensor manufacturer, has today announced user selectable Compressed and Uncompressed 14-Bit RAW image capture will be featured in the new α7S II once it arrives in stores this October.
Additionally, they have announced plans to add user selectable compressed or uncompressed 14-Bit RAW still image capture via firmware update to additional cameras beginning with the recently introduced α7R II full-frame mirrorless model.
The usual “Canon is buying XX” format pops up regularly in different guises – some time ago I was sent some Canon buying Phase One info that was much more detailed … the company was sold, but not to Canon. Whether there was actually any interest from Canon, I don’t know.Read this excellent interview with the CEO of Sigma and see if you think he’s minded to sell his Father’s company to Canon… [MT]
13th The 120MP monster is a good couple of years away [CR] and no decision has been made about the body for it.
11th More info about the Canon 120MP camera [PB] The demo camera has a sensor in a 5Ds body
It’s an APS-H sensor, so a full frame version would come in at ~200MP
Shall we see a 200MP 5Ds mk2 in 2018? or if they get it working sooner, a rather expensive 1DXs announced in 2016 (shipping well into 2017)
9th I’m on holiday this week, so only a few updates ;-)
The Canon expo is opening in New York – expect a rush of ‘wow’ announcements like the 250MP sensor
8k video and a 120MP DSLR [CR]
The 50MP 5Ds is slight overkill for much (but not all) of my commercial work – another doubling of pixels would be interesting, but I guess I’d need to think of giving up using shift lenses hand-held. Oh hang on, I said that (or at least thought about tripods a bit) when I went from the 1Ds3 to 5Ds, and it doesn’t seem to have happened yet…
Maybe the 1Ds line isn’t dead yet ;-)
“Featuring a resolution of approximately 120 effective megapixels, the SLR camera now being developed will incorporate a Canon-developed high-pixel-density CMOS sensor within the current EOS-series platform, which will realize compatibility with the Company’s diverse interchangeable EF lens lineup. The high-resolution images that the camera will be capable of producing will recreate the three-dimensional texture, feel and presence of subjects, making them appear as if they are really before one’s eyes. The camera will facilitate a level of resolution that is more than sufficient for enlarged poster-sized printout while also enabling images to be cropped and trimmed without sacrificing image resolution and clarity.”
7th An APS-H CMOS sensor from Canon manages 250MP (19580 x 12600) pix and 5fps [Canon press release]
That’s 422MP on a 35mm full frame sensor.
4th Those new large format printers from Epson should be announced in the next 2-3 weeks. No details yet, but the 7900/9900 (and maybe 4900) look ready for ‘SureColor’ versions.
A Canon US patent that makes it easier to get wireless functions into their metal camera bodies [CR]
Metal bodies are great, but make things like GPS, WiFi and radio control of flash rather tricky
September 3rd There should be quite a bit of movement in the printer market in the next few months.
Meanwhile there is talk [CR] of updates for the Pixma line being announced in October, including (at last) something at 17″ (the only Canon 17″ printer is the iPF5100, that’s getting on a bit). I note too that the Canon iPFx400 range are seeing appreciable discounting at the moment, perhaps a sign of something from Canon to go up against the larger SureColor printers from Epson?
28th Unusual Canon patent for a flexible LCD screen that by moving the end section of the camera, can be expanded to cover the whole back. [EG via Google xlt]
I’ve animated the diagram from the patent to give a better idea of how it works.
26th Pentax… How about a full frame camera in October? (2015 that is) [PR]
16th Canon win some awards from EISA (5Ds,11-24,7D2) [EISA]
Who EISA? A bit of a remnant of the past, representing some of the traditional dead tree media in photography, audio and related mens hobbies.
Such awards recognise technical excellence and have nothing at all to do with the ongoing commitment to advertising, by large brands, on their pages.
Be honest – did such ‘awards’ ever make the slightest difference to your purchase decisions? ;-)
3rd Sony set to push full frame sensor cameras – taking aim at Canon/Nikon? [KT]
2nd In what looks to be a fair attempt at starting rumours just to see how they travel, we get a 1DX2 and 5D X all mentioned together with ‘Digic 7’ [DPR] In another thread, the 6D2 gets added to the mix:
“The Digic 7 is going to be a quad core cpu which will allow 4x the processing power for high MP, high frame rate bodies. The 5DX will contain one Digic 7 and the 1DX Mark II will contain 2 Digic 7s and 1 Digic 6. The Digic 6 will be for metwring and other smaller tasks. The 1DX will have a different larger battery while thr 5DX will keep going with the same. ” [sic]
Whilst the 1Dx replacement (announcement) is likely in the next month or two, I’m not expecting to actually see a 6D2 this year, and I’d give a fair chance of the 5D 4 as being something that won’t ship this year either. 5D3 and 5Ds/R sales are too good at the moment.
30th As long expected, Adobe will not be updating ACR in future, for Photoshop CS6. So, for future cameras it will be Lightroom or Photoshop CC (or DNG converter)
Fortunately, CS6 supports my 5Ds, and I’m not thinking of getting anything new for a while ;-)
See more, by Thom Hogan [Dslr]
29th When is a Zeiss lens not a Zeiss lens? It depends … Zeiss article about their work with Sony [Zeiss]
22nd There are ‘rumours’ you think worth following up and well, then there are ones where you check the date…
A thread [FM] (beamed in from 2011?) suggests that we’re due a 1D mk5 (1.3x crop 24MP) and a 1Ds mk5 (50MP+ FF)
It’s been a while since someone even mentioned 1.3 crop ;-)
Not one I’d suggest following too closely … we used to see this sort of stuff all the time.
15th A Canon patent has a camera body cap that includes a lubricant to protect the mount.[EG via Google xlt]
Apart from the fact that I only tend to put such caps on to cameras I’m not intending to use (backup) I suppose it’s one way Canon can justify some of the prices for bits of plastic you are likely to lose ;-)
13th A Canon patent ups the number of sub pixels under a colour filter to six. [EG via Google xlt]
The associated diagram shows a 4×4 matrix of sub-pixels
The patent seems to be addressing more complex pixel based phase and contrast AF. It also mentions using contrast and phase information together for focus microadjustment.
Given that Canon hasn’t yet managed to provide any automation of AF adjustment, nor even a true ETTR exposure mode, there are plenty of advances still that don’t need whizzy new sensor technology to make for more useful cameras.
12th Fujifilm announce a series of price rises (~20% in October) and further discontinuations of some product lines from their film range [PR]
9th Expect considerable forum noise as the DxOmark results for the 5Ds and 5DsR are published.
I’ve observations and links for this on the 5Ds page, which has a comments section, if you’ve any input ;-)
8th A Canon patent [EG via Google xlt] looks at aspects of compound-eye types of imaging (computational imaging)
Don’t go looking for real detail in this one – it’s almost a ‘flagging our interest’ type of patent
A new flash from Canon: (see also Canon CPN article about it)
“MELVILLE, N.Y., July 8, 2015 – Canon U.S.A. Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today announced the new Canon Speedlite 430EX III-RT external flash unit featuring – for the first time in the Canon 430EX series – radio-controlled wireless flash shooting capabilities1 designed to make creative light control more manageable and versatile for photographers of all levels. This third generation Speedlite is a perfect primary flash unit for amateur and advanced amateur photographers looking to create beautiful portraits with Canon digital cameras such as the EOS Rebel T6i, as well as professional photographers looking for a small and lightweight secondary flash.
“Canon is proud to offer outstanding photographic accessories that help enhance a photographer’s overall creative experience when shooting with our EOS DSLR cameras,” said Yuichi Ishizuka, president and COO, Canon U.S.A., Inc. “The new Speedlite 430EX III-RT provides photographers with a very responsive flash unit having new wireless capabilities that enable users to create more professional lighting effects than if they were to rely on their camera’s pop-up flash alone.”
Featuring enhanced functionality and operability over its predecessor (the Canon Speedlite 430EX II), the new Canon Speedlite 430EX III-RT features wireless flash shooting via optical or radio transmission (similar to the Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT but slave function only), now with shorter recycling time and quicker firing. This multi-functional flash unit makes more advanced flash shooting easy for any photographer with its intuitive, user-friendly operation, abundant bounce and swivel shooting functions and advanced features including a maximum Guide Number of 43/141 at ISO 100 in meters/feet, auto zooming from 24-105mm, Hi-Speed Sync and Second-curtain Sync. In addition, the Speedlite 430EX III-RT has been reduced in size and weight compared to its predecessor.
Featuring another first for the 430EX series of flash units, the Canon Speedlite 430EX III-RT also includes an SCF-E2 Color Filter which helps balance color temperature when shooting in incandescent lighting, an SBA-E2 Bounce Adapter that helps soften light while helping suppress shadows, a built-in Catchlight panel, illuminated dot-matrix LCD, new control dial, light distribution options, multi-camera sync shooting, and remote shutter release. Enhanced functions include broader bounce angle range and flash exposure compensation via the new control dial. Also included are two cases – one for the flash and one for the filter and adapter.
Pricing and Availability
The new Canon Speedlite 430EX III-RT flash is scheduled to be available in September 2015 for an estimated retail price of $299.99*. For more information please visit: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/speedlite_flash_lineup/speedlite_430ex_iii_rt
1. With wireless radio receiver (RT model – Slave Function only); 430EX III model supports only optical transmission”
6th The numbers are out and the camera shipments continue to decline. See Thom Hogan‘s usual realistic commentary.
One useful takeaway from his analysis is that if you can wait for a new camera, then do so, since prices are unlikely to start rising.
When April’s figures appeared (see below) there were quite a few unwarranted (IMHO) cries of a turnaround in the market (particularly on a few of the mirrorless fan/rumour sites) I wish I could say I was surprised to see the onwards decline, but I’m not…
I was also reminded that I forgot the successor to the 100D in my possible cameras yesterday. See the Canon timeline further down the page for a guide to what’s old.
5th We’ve been told (thanks) that Canon’s next announcement will be on August 14th and include a camera and two lenses.
Unfortunately no real details, so hold that credit card for a while ;-)
Probably to early for a 5D4 and 6D2, so perhaps the 1D x mk2?
I’ve added a short article to our ‘Business of Photography section’ after reading about a US startup that wants to let anyone work as a photographer – all you need is a DSLR ;-)
The actual anniversary isn’t until September. The 5D quashed 3D rumours in 2005, much like the 5D2 did in 2008 and the 5Ds did earlier this year.
It’s worth noting that almost every 5 series camera has seen at least one rumour that Canon would return to eye-controlled focus. A feature that appeared briefly in film EOS days, but has never returned…
26th Sorry about delayed updates of late, I’ve just got back from a very interesting visit to Google in Dublin…
It seems that sense has returned to Hasselblad and there will be no more Hasselbling [DPR]
An unusual lens adapter patent (lenses page) include an option for full frame mirrorless from Canon.
Watch out for fake Canon 600EX-RT flash guns – details at TDP
The soon to arrive (yes really … stop sniggering ;-) ) DSLR from Pentax could well use the new 42MP sensor from Sony [PR]
11th Some comments from Thom Hogan including signs that Nikon have realised something is up with the camera business
OK, not quite that bad, but the D300 replacement seems somewhat less imminent.
See also some comments related to that chart below and Sony’s new sensor
Signs of initial shipments of a few 5Ds cameras in the US.
The next full frame sensors from Canon should show some distinct benefits at higher ISOs – [CR]
Perchance a bit of reaction to Sony’s 42MP?
If you’re idling time at work (as if) it’s worth going back down this page, and the archives (by year) to get a feel for what appears in patents and what eventually makes it to production cameras
If you’ve a GP-E2 or WFT-E7 device then there is a firmware update [CR]
Mainly new camera support
10th Sony announce [DPR] the A7R II with an interesting 42MP full frame back illuminated sensor and 5-axis IS.
Oh, and 4k video too…
Possibly something to appear in the next Nikon 8xx cameras, unless they want to leapfrog the 5Ds
I look forward to seeing if Sony has improved its data encoding in RAW files.
9th The latest camera numbers from CIPA show the usual spring jump in shipments (remember that these numbers are not sales).
This is widely being [over] interpreted as something of a turnaround (a ‘boom in sales’ on one site … I think not)
I look forward to hearing the likes of Thom Hogan pointing out some of the realities.
Meanwhile, re-arranging the deckchairs in the camera business moves on.
The Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) makes a decision recognising ‘Mirrorless’ as the official term for interchangeable lens cameras that do not include a mirror mechanism.[CE]
The curved sensor patent from Sony is suggested as making it to a real camera this year.
One bit that looks less than likely is that it would work with existing lenses – well, not good ones with a flat field I’d suggest?
1st An interesting Canon patent reverses a fixed semitransparent mirror, to just divert light to a phase AF unit, whilst an EVF appears where the focus screen would be. [EG via Google xlt].
As with many patents (see the T/S lens with IS recently on the Lenses page), there are several different parts to the patent.
the mirror, the improved AF at high frame rates and the EVF.
31st Canon rebates in the US are running until July 4th. Full list on the lens rumour page.
18th A two layer sensor from Olympus [EG via Google xlt] makes use of a mix of RGBCMY pixels
15th Nikon’s financial results looked over by Thom Hogan
I may not use Nikon kit, but I take no pleasure in their ongoing poor financial performance – Canon needs healthy competition.
DPP and Eos utility are both updated to support the 5Ds/5DsR
9th Canon produce a service advisory to address the T6i/s spotty sensor issue – no news on how 750D/760D models are affected.
7th No messy photodiodes needed – Invisage go for a quantum film of nanodots [IV]
4th A suggestion that a new flash system might appear next year [CR]
See also the mention of updated flash from March on the 5D4 page
27th Canon’s numbers for the first quarter show a steady decline in sales and earnings [TH]
The predicted numbers for the whole year do suggest that some new products need to fill out the range.
1D X, 5D3 and 6D updates would be the obvious moneymakers
…although I’d expect a 6D2 to lag a 5D4 somewhat, since you want some full price 5D4 sales before tempting with a 6D2.
Once again, have a look at the camera timeline and take your pick… (timeline moved up page in November)
20th Looking for a new A2 printer? I’ve been testing Epson’s new P800 printer for a detailed review.
10th The C700x video specs have surfaced again, with an announcement for Monday?
It’s award time again. Despite my ongoing scepticism towards the whole process, I’ll admit that Canon got a well deserved one for the 11-24mm lens…
“About the TIPA Awards
Held every year since 1991 at a luxury resort, the TIPA Awards recognize the best photo and imaging products announced during the previous 12 months based on such criteria as innovativeness, use of leading-edge technologies, design, and who’s turn it is to get one.”
Meanwhile, in a gratuitous plug, I have to mention that my wife Karen has been working for quite a while on a new Etsy shop for her (UK) gemstone and crystal jewellery – please pass the link on to anyone you know who might be interested ;-)
6th As expected, camera shipment numbers remain somewhat moribund [PV]
It will be interesting to see the size of the ‘late spring’ bump in DSLR shipments, and also how the suggestion I’ve seen that we have passed ‘peak mirrorless’ , holds out.
I await Thom Hogan’s more considered analysis in due course ;-)
Meanwhile, some suggest that Sony is going to have a few more tilts at the mirrorless windmill this month [SR]
3rd Canon update DPP and EOS utility to support more lenses and cameras – details on our Canon Software page.
A Sony patent [EG – Google xlt] looks at adding a lens over the top of a sensor to send light into a sensor chip perpendicular to the front surface.
In this instance it shows a three layer foveon style sensor.
1st A Canon patent addresses vignetting by adjusting exposure from individual pixels [EG – Google xlt]
The patent is a fairly general one, so could easily be adapted to increasing dynamic range (shorter exposures in bright areas).
Since it’s using an electronic shutter, it could work just fine for video too.
27th Fuji and Panasonic step closer to organic based image sensors [Fuji]
A Sony patent includes a large curved sensor [SR]
24th Three days at a trade show – I’ve some ‘real work’ later today.
I’ll be putting toether a brief ‘show report’ later, but in the mean time, I’ve written up our own ‘5Ds R hands-on review‘
Don’t rush to read it, since it’s just a picture of my hand on a 5Ds R – about as comprehensive and relevant as many other so called ‘reviews’ ;-)
23rd Last day at the show today – I’ve seen some great photos. Thanks to everyone who’s stopped by.
20th The next three days I’ll be at The Photography Show at the NEC in the UK.
I’ll be on the Colour Confidence stand (F21/31) with X-rite and Benq
I’d love to meet some of the rumour page regulars, so pop by and say hello?
11th A Canon interview [DPR] (from CP+) covers quite a few areas, in a slightly more direct way than usual. From my own POV, I noted:
Q. Is there room for an EOS-1D level product in Canon’s lineup, with a higher resolution?
A. This is something that is currently under consideration.
Any such camera is a long way off, so I’ll settle for downsizing to a 5 series body for the time being ;-)
6th In the US, Canon are runnng a big rebate scheme this month for the 70D and assorted lenses/flash units
One problem with multilayer sensors is that off axis, the traditional microlenses don’t work so well. Offsetting them is one solution for single element pixels. A different type of asymetric lens design appears in a Sony patent. [EG – Google xlt]
25th A Canon patent covering aspects of sensor pixel design [EG – Google xlt]
Although aimed at the AF phase detection sensor design, it’s worth noting that by spliting the photo sensitive area into three vertical elements, at different depths, the response to light can be altered.
The patent mentions using the second layer (32) as a monitor.
This gives the capability of altering sensitivity, for example by turning off pixels before completely ‘full’, or adding layers one and three (31, 33) for increased sensitivity.
In a DSLR, AF photo sensors are fed directly from the lens (usually wide open) so need to handle a much greater dynamic range than the main sensor, which has the benefits of a shutter and aperture setting.
21st A Samsung patent uses interference from tiny structures to split colours rather than a CFA [ISW]
A few days ago Thom Hogan asked people to let him know what their biggest photographic ‘problems’ were.
Well, he’s published a summary and commentary based on the hundreds of responses he received. [TH]
I was surprised (and to some extent pleased) by how many, that as a professional working photographer, I just didn’t see as real problems for me.
However, it’s really useful to know the kinds of problems that are more widely faced when I’m looking for ideas for new articles on the site.
Have a read – the article is as relevant to Canon users as it is any other make.
BTW My own biggest issue technical annoyance with cameras is included in his list ;-) … anyone care to guess?
17th I’ve long taken the various ‘interviews’ with company men (as it always is…) from the camera companies, with a suitable pinch of salt (OK I’ve called them bland and anodyne as well ;-) so I couldn’t agree more with Thom Hogan’s observations about the latest crop from CP+ [TH]
Have a look at the interview on [IR] though – you do at least get the feeling that a bit of real info was communicated in the process of doing this one.
13th At CP+ Canon are showing their 120MP ‘APS-H’ sensor that caused a stir a couple of years ago [DPR]
Featuring a frame rate of read-out of 9.5fps, it’s is made possible by reading multiple pixels simultaneously at high speeds – a process Canon is calling ‘parallel signal processing’.
The 120MP (2.2 µm pixel pitch) fits on a sensor of 29.2mm x 20.2mm, giving a 13280×9184 image.
Lots of companies are looking for ways of making multilayer sensors.
A patent from Nikon puts a layer of ‘all light’ or ‘W’ pixels underneath the normal R/G/B ones.
Add the W pixel to the colour above and you get luminance for each pixel as well as the colours.
[EG – Google xlt]
Like all such ideas, they have a tough fight against the entrenched Bayer RGGB designs. Almost every year, since the ‘foveon bubble’ I get sent stuff saying that such sensors are coming soon… ;-)
11th Several Canon patents relating to using Phase-difference AF [EG – Google xlt]
Note the mirrorless and EVF designs.
A bit overdue for an update, but still, a proper 17″ large format printer – see my review for more info.
Meanwhile, a video for Monday morning at work…
the Mayflower Partners presentation (50mins) about how to save the camera market, from CES last month
(Good to see it’s partly my old university research field – Usability :-)
7th The 5Ds sensor is 100% Canon according to an interview with Chuck Westfall [SB]
“Despite some rumors to the contrary, Westfall said the 50.6MP CMOS sensors in the 5DS and 5DS R are developed and produced by Canon. When asked whether they were created in collaboration with Sony as some rumors indicated, Westfall responded by saying: “Absolutely not. The sensors were developed completely in-house, by Canon.””
Also, with the flurry of announcements, it’s been time to update the Canon Timeline. I was told several times last year that Canon would have a very different model lineup by the end of 2015.
Much like the camera industry, my chart falls of the edge of the page in a few years… ;-)
BTW I’ve added the same comments system that I use with my reviews (fixed after I broke the code a few weeks ago) to the 5Ds and 11-24mm pages, since I’m gettting both, and expect to be writing quite a few articles/reviews over time.
5th The ‘splitting’ of model types in the Canon DSLR range will be interesting to see from a product positioning point of view. I’m told (thanks) that it’s seen as a major benefit from ‘bringing home’ a lot of Canon’s manufacturing, and will become integral in producing cameras that are marketed more by what you can do with them. Whether this succeeds in a shrinking market or is in some ways ‘more of the same’ should be quite apparent in only a few years.
I note too, Thom Hogan’s quick look at the latest shipment figures. [TH] still not looking good
The CP+ releases are starting, with Ricoh/Pentax finally announcing that a full frame DSLR will be along this year, making use of their traditional generous timing margins with regards to new products. [PR]
Olympus offer an interesting 40MP multishot option in the new Olympus OM-D E-M5 II [DPR]
Look at the lack of moire in fine detail shots in that linked page – that’s why, have spoken to several people shooting the kind of commercial work I do that I’ve initially ordered a 5Ds not a 5Ds R ;-)
4th Prices are leaked [PR]
Canon EOS 5Ds: €3,499 (around $4,000)
Canon EOS 5Ds R (no low-pass filter): €3,699 (around $4,200)
Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM: €2,999 (around $3,400)
3rd There’s still talk of Sony involvement with the next large Canon sensor – just bear in mind that it may not be until someone takes an electron microscope to the chip that we see for sure [CW]
2ndA wide range of rebates are currently being run by Canon in the US (mail-in and ‘instant’)
30th Two new 5D models? A 50MP 5Ds and 5Ds R version are suggested – a photo too…
A good enough rumour for all info to go on our 5Ds page. (5fps and crop modes too)
29th Panic in the camera industry? Some reasonable observations on the ongoing precipitous decline in sales [TH]
Will any of the big manufacturers have the wherewithal to really break out of the incremental and evolutionary approach to new cameras?
For Canon, we may see some signs of deeper changes at CP+, then again we may not.
For over ten years, these pages have covered the massive developments in DSLRs and great new lenses – I hope that there’s still plenty of new stuff to wonder about in 5 years time?
28th A Canon/Sony ‘joint venture/patent swap’ rumour seems to be doing the rounds with respect to any upcoming high MP sensor [CR].
Just like at CR, I’ve not heard from the source before…
27th It’s suggested [CR] that the NDA’s for various products from Canon for CP+ expire on 6th Feb at
The full list…
Two high (53?) megapixel cameras, with and without an AA filter
EOS Rebel T6i/750D
EF 11-24 f/4L
Some PowerShot cameras
Was the March date a shipping date?
24th Several people have suggested that CP+ will finally see a camera I’ll want to replace my 1Ds3 with at CP+. Unfortunately that’s all they’d say, which doesn’t help much (thanks anyway ;-)
However I note that at CR they suggest March, which seems reasonable, leaving CP+ for the new souped up 750D.
I’m still unsure about there being two high MP bodies though?
The 1Ds3 is old enough that I’d keep it for backup, and maybe just retire the 1Ds ;-)
Just an FYI – I’ve now published the very long Epson SC-P600 printer review I’ve been working on for the last few weeks – hope it’s of interest.
22nd A bit of a lull in rumours of late. Given the proximity of CP+ it’s likely we’ll see something of a ‘real’ leak or two before too long.
Meanwhile, there a hint of Canon having a global shutter in the successor to the 1D X [CR] and other Canon DSLRs
16th It seems that the ‘mystery’ camera is indeed the long expected 750D and that the previously leaked lens is a real EF11-24 [CR]
Park cameras, the company I buy my own camera kit from, here in the UK, have just launched a big update to their web site and are asking for feedback ;-)
15th If you make predictions, it’s essential to pay attention every so often to what you -didn’t- see. A good commentary about aspects of the photo industry from Thom Hogan is worth a read.
I recall in about 2006 realising just how much quicker the decline of film had been than I’d expected back in 2003, when I decided to start as a digital only commercial photographer in 2004.
Similarly to TH, I’d expected a fall off in DSLR sales over the last few years as new models and ‘improvements’ were just not enough to make people go out and buy new cameras, but I’d not expected the fall to be so sharp.
I’ve been told by several sources that Canon ‘gets it’ and will be making some drastic changes in its product line-up over the next year, however I’m still left wondering just what a Japanese camera maker considers drastic?
For me, it’s probably not the CS100 box below?
I fully agree with Thom Hogan’s analysis about hardware and software, even if I feel no personal need for integrated workflows and wireless communications and am just fine with DCF.
14th A new EF lens technical video from Canon [main lens rumours page]
Actually not too bad to watch, which is unusual, since I have a very low boredom threshold when it comes to videos – I am one of those to whom the concept of youtube as any form of search engine seems bizarre ;-)
Meanwhile, there’s a (written) interview I did about aspects of my architectural photography on the X-Rite Photo blog – the photography that pays the bills round here ;-)
9th Three versions of a new 5D are suggested [CR] an updated 5D4 and two 5Ds models with and without AA filtering, at ~53MP
I do wonder if two high MP versions would be likely ?
It didn’t take Nikon long to drop the AA filter completely (D810)
Personally I’m still hoping that we’ll see a 3D – mainly because it gives Canon a chance to make a ‘mini’ 1 series, without a bothersome (YMMV) dial on the top.
However, I suspect that introducing a whole new body style gets ruled out for development cost reasons.
— In other news, Karen has finally finished all the Canon EF lens pages for EFLens.com
If you have reviews of older Canon lenses that you’d like her to mention, please visit the site and let her know. Now that all the lenses are listed, we’re aiming to add plenty of new info, as we come across it.
8th Did Canon include a new DSLR in a publicity shot for the CS100 [PP]
It’s got a flip out screen and a top LCD.
80D or 750D?
Both the 700D and 70D date from 2013, but the 700D is the oldest technology with the long standing 18MP sensor.
A top LCD for an xxxD (rebel) range camera?
Just from existing camera specs and ages I’m thinking 750D … who knows? ;-)
6th Older readers may remember the fear and dread that the sudden appearance of a slide projector and screen could evoke, when visitng someone just back from their holidays…
Well, now Canon have a digital equivalent, the new ‘Connect Station CS100’ a fancy photo disk storage system that can also let you inflict photos on visitors via your HD tv. See more at DPR –
Nothing ‘high end’ at CES from Canon – the upcoming CP+ is more likely to see interesting products.
4th Is new firmware on the way for the 5D3? No signs yet of what 1.3.3 actaully does differently other than not (yet?) work with ML [ML via CR ]
Whilst there are plenty of reasons to think that we’ll see a high MP camera from Canon, most suggestions put it into a non 1 series body (see the 3D page for more). However at CW it’s put into the 1D X mk2
If a really high MP camera appears in a 1 series body, I’d perhaps more see it as a 1D Xs? The 1D X was always a full frame 1D4 follow-on and not really aimed at traditional 1Ds users.
Do Canon have a big sensor to revive the ‘Ds’ line?
1D X users, who are used to its high ISO and high frame rate are not really going to take kindly to either being reduced.
Several years ago we were told that Canon was looking at ways of binning the output of high MP sensors to offer a choice of resolution vs sensitivity & speed.
To get this to work takes a lot of pixels in the un-binned sensor.
3rd A Canon patent covers a plastic/metal design for the lens mount [EG – Google xlt]
Canon have said that they can make the DSLR smaller and lighter – this might well appear in the successor to the 100D and other xxxD models, when they get versions of the new 20MP APS-C sensor.
1st Happy new year folks!
The ‘interviews’ continue with this from Sigma [from MR]
“- He believes time will come when Mirrorless will outsell DSLR. But DSLR will always exist as a niche product.
– We aim to achieve medium and large format quality with our foveon sensor tech
– We receive many request to make a Full Frame Foveon. And we are aware the tendency now is to make larger sensors and with even more Megapixels.
– Sigma has no plan to make an interchangeable mirrorless system camera yet.
– There is no plan yet to make a DP camera with zoom lens”
30th In several comments [thanks] we’re told that the upcoming high MP Canon sensor will be based on the 4.2 micron 70D/7D2 pixel design, not Canon’s long lived 4.3 micron 18MP one. This gives around 52MP at full frame rather than 46MP. The main reason for delays in ‘big megapixel’ designs has been getting an economical yield from the sensor manufacturing process at full frame.
Just like at CR, I’ve seen a spike in the postbag of late, but still relatively few hard details. I can see why the marketing department would prefer something over 50 to promote – particularly if Sonikon is at 46 ;-)
Several of the comments also suggested that we might be in for quite a wait between announcement and shipping for this new camera – not another 1D X I hope (~9 months IIRC)
Panasonic added to the interview collection [from 43]
“– High Megapixel cameras are coming (from all manufacturers). Megapixel race will never go away says Panasonic
– Panasonic is working on 6K and 8K video recording. 8K will come before 2020 (Olympic year).
– The ultimate “dream” is to beat the human eye performance
– There is the potential to use pure electronic shutter only
– Micro Four Thirds is the perfect sensor size for Panasonic. But they not rule out to create a second larger sensor size system.
– A medium format camera from Panasonic is highly unlikely”
29th More suggestions of a high MP camera [CR]
A quick note that Epson have sent me an SC-P600 printer for a review – if anyone has any specific questions for the review, please just let me know?
Add Ricoh (Pentax) to the company interviews [DCW]
26th Why Sony really ought to sort out the way it handles its sensor data [RD] ;-)
For myself, lossy compression like this seems an obvious FAIL – rookie mistake ;-)
Fuji [FR] adds to the interview collection:
APS-C for now, Organic sensors not coming soon, 25MP is a reasonable limit for APS-C, Video is being looked at, more dynamic range is an important improvement.
Two better summaries of DCW interviews. This for Olympus [from 43]
“– We are not focused on classic Mirrorless cameras only. We also work on completely new kind of cameras (like the Open Platform Lens Camera prototype).
– Olympus says MFT has the best size-quality balance. And Olympus main priority is to strengthen the line.
– Olympus acknowledges the trend now goes toward more high Megapixel cameras
– On the tech front Olympus wants to make cameras that are faster, consume less, better High ISO and with increased Dynamic Range.
– There is a possibility to also use different kind on non-Bayer sensor.
– electronic shutter is also likely to be introduced in future
– we are “investigating” the possibility to make a Four Thirds sensor and fixed lens compact camera
– we have no specific plan yet to use larger sensors (like Full Frame).
– we plan to improve video quality on future cameras (60p and 4K for example).”
… and this for Sony: [from SR]
“1) SLT cameras have the advantage of larger bodies. There is more space we can use to implement certain tech (SAR note: He doesn’t mention what exactly they plan to do). And he confirms they will continue to develop A-mount cameras and lenses.
2) Increase sensor size or increase Megapixel numbers is things we will do if customers demand for it.
3) Main demand for now is improve the autofocus performance
4) It is very likely to see different kind of (non-Bayer) sensor in future. But it’s not a concrete matter yet. Vertical layered RGB sensor (like Foveon) are yet very difficult to “process”
5) Light Field camera is something Sony is studying and may could come in a not so distant future.
6) In near future we will see more advanced Hybrid Mechanical-electronic shutters
7) Sony says DSLR sales are down because of lack in innovation. Sales of mirrorless are up because they became more advanced (not only because of the more compact size).
8) Both APS-C and Full Frame sensor cameras have a future. Wild life photographers prefer APS-C while landscape photographers prefer FF.
9) We will not make a Medium format system camera yet because we are already busy working to broaden our A and E-mount lens line.
10) It might not be so important to add 5 axis on the A7r yet.”
Well, pick from those what you like.
How do these pronouncements signify actual developments, and do they address, in any way, the cliff over which camera sales appear to have fallen (see below)?
Sony seems to want us to believe that it’s lack of innovation that has caused the plunge in DSLR sales, whilst Canon also says that new models need to show clear technical advances.
Both Sony and Canon are happy to say that the door is still open for medium format. I guess neither would want to repeat the ‘nobody needs full frame’ marketing message I got from Nikon in 2004 (when I started our photo business) and got my first DSLR, an 11MP full frame Canon 1Ds.
25th Happy Christmas* – A quick update while I wait for everyone else in the house to wake up…
There is a bit more about that Canon interview on DPR
Also Sony and Olympus add to the interview collection [MR]
“…Both confirm the trend goes towards realising higher megapixel sensor and better autofocus performance. They also said what they NOT plan to do in the near future: Olympus will not go full frame yet and Sony will not make an interchangeable medium format system yet.”
*That’s what it is here in the UK, so no ‘happy holidays’ or other stuff – whatever you’re doing have a nice day ;-)
Time to go, I hear a mob assembling near the Christmas tree…
December 24th Christmas rumour time…
This is a tricky one to draw nuggets of info from… (read the translations and take your pick ;-)
– Lenses are the most important thing to us.
– SLRs need not be huge, but not much smaller. EVF will be OK one day, but not yet
– Mirrorlesss designs, sure, we can do this, but we need to appeal to younger users
– The annual model update cycle is no more. Model changes to be driven by significant technical advances.
– There will be a high MP camera before long.
– A new ‘line’ of EF lenses is on the way. We want it to be ‘I use EOS because of the lenses’ [True for me – Keith]
– Electronic shutter is on its way
– Full frame mirrorless … no comment
– No, we have not given up on medium format yet
Any suggestions as to translation most welcome – thanks for the original links
BTW there is a Nikon interview too [DCW – Google xlt]
Rumours for 2014 are on our 2014 archive page
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