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EOS 5D Mark 4

Information about Canon’s replacement for the EOS 5D Mark 3


EOS 5D Mark 4

Information about Canon’s
replacement for the EOS 5D Mark 3

Announced Aug 25th 2016 due late August (25th)

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Canon 5d4 with lens

Key features: EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR Camera

Basic Specifications:
  • New 30.4 Megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor for versatile shooting in nearly any light, with ISO range 100–32,000; expandable up to 50–102,400.
  • 4K Motion JPEG video (DCI cinema-type 4096 x 2160) at 30p or 24p; in-camera still frame grab* of 4K 8.8-Megapixel images; multiple video options include Full HD up to 60p, and HD up to 120p.
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF for responsive and smooth AF during video or Live View shooting; LCD monitor has full touch-screen interface, including selection of AF area.
  • Up to 7.0 fps** continuous shooting speed with high performance DIGIC 6+ Image Processor for improved speed and excellent image quality.
  • 61 AF points with expanded vertical coverage with 41 cross-points, and AF possible at all 61 AF points with many lens + extender combinations effective at f/8.
  • 150,000-pixel RGB+IR metering sensor helps provide precise exposure metering, helps detect flickering lights and allows for enhanced scene recognition and face detection capabilities.
  • Dual Pixel RAW, in-camera Digital Lens Optimizer during JPEG shooting and Diffraction Correction technologies.
  • Built-in Wi-Fi and NFC2 connectivity provide easy sharing to compatible smart devices, select social media sites and the Canon Connect Station CS100 device.
  • Built-in GPS provides geotag information including auto time syncing with Universal Time Code (UTC) via satellites.

Info and reviews

Updates and latest news below

top view of Canon 5D mk4

Latest news

2016 November

29th New firmware from Canon

Firmware Version 1.0.3 incorporates the following fixes and improvements:

  • Corrects a phenomenon in which the color of images varies depending on the metering mode selected during flash shooting.
  • Improves the reliability of communication when using the EF1.4X III or EF2X III extender.
  • Corrects the level display when the camera is held in the vertical orientation with the hand grip pointing downward.
  • Improves the reliability of communication via USB cable when using the Lens Data Registration function with EOS Utility 3.

October

6th TDP review
3rd Lensrentals review

September

29th Firmware Version 1.0.2 incorporates the following improvement.
Improves communication reliability when using EOS Utility to register/update* new Digital Lens Optimizer.
Firmware V1.0.2
24th Sigma post a notice about some issues with their lenses and the 5D4

Please find the following notes on the usage of SIGMA interchangeable lenses for EOS, when attached to Canon EOS 5D Mark IV that is released on September 8th.
• MO (Manual Override) function is unavailable with this camera (Full-time Manual function can be offered).
• When using a SIGMA interchangeable lens for EOS, setting the corrections to [Disable] is recommended, as “Lens Correction” functions of the camera, such as Peripheral illumination correction, Chromatic aberration correction, Diffraction correction and Distortion correction are not supported.*

* If those functions are activated, the performance of lenses may not be accurate.
* This is not only for EOS 5D Mark IV, but also for other camera bodies with the same function.

15th 5D4 camera review at DPR
9th The cameras are shipping and Lens rentals have stripped one down to look at it

August

31st DPReview puts the DP AF adjustment feature to the test [DPR]

As expected by anyone with more than a cursory knowledge of optics, the effect is rather small.

29th The use of diffration grating mirrors to expand the AF coverage for the 5D4 is covered on the main Canon page
28th metal body for 5D4There are some focus shift examples on a Japaese site [DCF]

27th The 5D mk4 manual is available for download.
26th A DPReview video‘about’ the 5D4 – for those of you wanting to hear some guy drone on about the features you already know all about if you are reading this…
25th One of the 5D4 features is that you can record Dual Pixel data. If you set the camera to record it (doubles the size of RAW files) you need to process images with DPP.
There is a Canon articleexplaining the dual pixel AF adjustment functions.

Canon says:

In addition to all the adjustments you can perform using Canon’s RAW processing software to RAW image files, EOS 5D Mark IV images shot with Dual Pixel RAW active also allow the following adjustments:

Image Microadjustment 

Make subtle changes to slightly alter the plane of sharpest detail in an image, using depth information. You can microadjust the sharpest detail forward (toward the camera) or backward at the subject.

Bokeh Shift 

Take out-of-focus foreground and background information, and shift it slightly (side-to-side in a horizontal shot), using sliders in DPP to vary the range of adjustment. The primary, focused-upon subject remains essentially unaffected — so the out-of-focus areas do in fact shift a bit. This can be easily seen once you bring Dual Pixel RAW images into your computer.

Ghost Reduction 

Select an area of the frame having flare or ghost images from light sources which are just ouside the visible frame, and DPP can process the image to reduce these aberrations in some cases. You select the area by drawing a box around it, on-screen, in DPP’s preview window.
Just how well this is going to work remains to be seen…


As expected, the 5D4 is announced officially – the rumours of the last week or so were right
All pre – release info is lower down the page

Canon 5D4 with battery grip

Press Info.

US Press info

Developed for Professional Wedding, Portrait, and Nature/Wildlife Photographers as well as Filmmakers, the EOS 5D Mark IV Delivers Excellent Image Quality and 4K Video Recording

MELVILLE, N.Y., August 25, 2016

Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, is proud to announce the EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR camera, the next generation of the popular and versatile 5D series of Canon professional DSLR cameras. Building on this legendary legacy, the EOS 5D Mark IV propels the series forward with a fusion of features and enhancements targeted to please even the most discerning creative eyes.

The camera’s 30.4 megapixel 35mm Full Frame Canon CMOS sensor offers stunning image quality while the DIGIC 6+ Image Processor delivers 4K 30P video and up to and seven frames per second (fps) continuous shooting.

To make video shooting even easier, the camera also features Canon’s propriety Dual Pixel CMOS AF, even when shooting 4K to help ensure sharp focus and subject tracking.

In addition, Canon is also introducing two new L-series EF lenses – the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III USM Ultra-Wide Zoom Lens and EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Standard Zoom Lens– offering fantastic edge-to-edge sharpness across the imaging plane, as well as improved durability and performance.

5D mk4 body

“Canon’s EOS 5D series of DSLR cameras has a history of being at the forefront of still and video innovation. And today, we add to this family of cameras the EOS 5D Mark IV– the first in our 5D series to offer 4K video and built-in Wi-Fi and NFC connectivity,” said Yuichi Ishizuka, president and COO, Canon U.S.A., Inc. “In developing this new DSLR camera, we listened to the requests of current EOS users to create for them a modern, versatile camera designed to help them create and share beautiful still and video imagery.”

5D4 at park“Outdoor photographers will really appreciate the new EOS 5D Mark IV, as it offers more resolution, better detail in the shadows, and improved speeds in autofocus and frame rate,” reported acclaimed nature photographer and Canon Explorer of Light George Lepp. “With the fabulous resolution of 4K video and the ability to make beautiful prints from a frame of that video as an added bonus, this camera sets a new mid-range standard for nature photography.”

EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR Camera Specifications:

2016 April

2nd The upcoming camera is likely the 5D4 – not 5DX. Still no real sign of an impending announcement, so maybe the August slot for Photokina [CR]

March 

19th The ‘not until the 1D X mk2 is shipping’ line continues [CR] along with the suggestion that 5D4 video performance will exceed the 1D X 2

4th In info that suggests a 5D4 is on its way, several dealers have suggested [CR] that the delivery times for the 5D3 have stretched in the way that often happens a month or two before an announcement.

I often mention the change in the nature of rumours that takes place when something becomes a bit more ‘real’. This is such a thing and I suspect people may well have a 5D4 in their hands by June. If so, then I’m hoping to see some distinctly better quality 5D3 replacement rumours by the end of the month ;-)

3rd A ‘there will be a 6D2 instead of a 5D4’ rumour seems to be doing the rounds.

When I get sent several links using obfucsated email addresses, you can bet it’s probably just made up to stir the pot and generate traffic somewhere ;-)

February

28th Lots of sites taking bits of rumours and conflating them with ‘certainty’ about the 5D 4 (or 5D X) – All worthy of the cr1 rating they get at [CR]

Still no signs yet of that distinct change in rumour detail/quality that you get not long before a real announcement. 

26th Yes it really is the first 5D4 mention of the year (of note). With a suggestion that there won’t be anything until after the 1D X mk2 ships in April/May and that there will be a 4k video model [CR]

In what I consider just hanging on a bit too long, one comment suggested that it would actually appear in what was the August pre-photokina announcement slot. I’m expecting that one as far more likely for something to replace the 6D/100D.

 Crop 200020012002200320042005200620072008200920102011201220132014201520162017
      123412341234123412341234
BestFull   1Ds1Ds Mk II1Ds Mk III1D X1DX II
1.3  1D1D Mk II1D MkIIn1D Mk III1D Mk IV          
video              1D C     
HighFull               5Ds/5Dsr
      5D5D Mk II5D Mk III5D Mk IV
1.6          7D7D Mk II
'Better' Full              6D    
1.6D30D6010D20D30D40D50D60D70D80D
Mid1.6    300D
Rebel
Kiss
350D
XT
Kiss N
400D
XTi
Kiss X
450D
XSi
X2
500D
T1i
X3
550D
T2i
X4
600D
T3i
X5
650D
T4i
X6i
700D
T5i
X7i
750/760D
T6i/s
X8i
    
Micro1.6             100D SL1 X7    
Entry1.6         1000D / XS / F1100D / T3 / X501200D T5 X701300D T6
Mirror
-less
1.6               M5
              MM2M3    
               M10

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.

Video capable 4k | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual

2015 December

17th Hints of a March arrival for the 5D4? [CR]

There is also mention of a potential 5Ds update a bit sooner than might be thought – See 5Ds mk2 page for more general coverage of what I still expect to be a 2017/8 camera.

At the moment I can see no good reason whatsoever to hurry the update of the 5Ds?

November

27th Lots more ‘early next year’ rumours going round and 24MP seems the latest preferred sensor size and probably not 4k video.

17th Still no really firm information on any 5D mk4, but there is a suggestion that the camera may get a touch screen or folding screen or neither at [CR]

See the latest view of the Canon timeline on this page – lots of things could be updated…

September

29th Keep an eye out for links to an Italian ‘news clickbait’ site which seems to have dredged up some of the earlier rumours from this year about a 5D4 and a 5D4c for video

“Canon EOS 5D Mark IV will have a 28mp full frame sensor, 12 fps, Dual Pixel autofocus system AF III, crop mode (or clipping) to 1.3x, to simulate the sensor size of the EOS 1D old series, or 1.6x , to simulate the size of Canon’s APS-C sensor, anti-technology flickr; sensitivity from 100 to 204.800iso, 409,600 in extended mode.
Canon EOS 5D Mark IV c: 18MP full frame sensor, very useful for optimizing the performance at high ISO and burst. Dual Pixel III AF autofocus system with 61 points of focus, ISO sensitivity from 100 to 204,800, 4k video.
 ”

If you really must click then turn the sound down first

www.newsly.it /canon-5d-mark-iv-e-ivc-uscita-caratteristiche-e-news/

August

20th So, there will be a replacement for the 5D mk3… that much the rumours seem agreed on.

However, the timing seems to be fluctuating between dates in September/October and ‘not until next year’.

With no August announcement for the 1D X mk2 I’d suggest the 5D4 (or X if you are an avid DPReview forum follower) is becoming more of a 2016 product.

I’d put a side bet on an October announcement and shipping by the start of December in small quantities.

Truth is, I’m afraid I’ve seen nothing convincing one way or the other for a while.

I’m currently rewriting/reformatting this whole site from scratch (a vast job, hundreds of pages to go…), and had to look at some of the rumour archives covering the last ten years. It seems that rumours were never that reliable (surely not! :-) ), but there is a consistent change in the variety and range of rumour sources once you get to 3-4 weeks out from a product launch. 

Canon stuff doesn’t often leak out anyway, and in fact, never did that much.

As sales continue to decline, I’m expecting replacement cycles to be waiting more for real advances in technologies.

I’m expecting to still have some rumour pages running when the 5Ds is replaced, but what the state of the DSLR market will be like then is a big unknown.

14th The 5D X trundles on at DPR

6th The 5D X stuff is being repeated widely – watch out for non attributed versions being picked up by sites, and subsequently being picked up elsewhere as ‘proof’ of the original rumours.

All good fun – and a good sign that a lot of people are looking for a 5D mk4.

I’ll be writing up more about the 5Ds before long (it gets even better for my work as I get used to it), but I’m minded to suggest that it is -not- the update many 5D3 users are looking for. It’s more than ‘just’ a big sensor in a 5D3, but I’d suspect that the 5D4 (X) will be a lot more generally useful, unless you are into big prints.

5th Another mention of the 5D3 replacement [DPR] still calling it a 5DX and putting an announcement (along with the 1D X mk2) around the US Photoplus show in October.

Nothing else backs this up at the moment, so keep the usual big pinch of salt ready.

2015 July

17th The 5D4 has been referred to as a 5D X a few times of late – this seems to come from a DPreview forum post some time ago.
See a mention at [PB] 28MP

If you follow rumours for any time, you’ may see the same things popping up in cycles. Sometimes it’s the same rumour, recycled. It takes a week or two’s gap and an unnattributed mention and it starts up again ;-)
Interesting to see the 5D X name though…

12th A report (thanks) of 5D4 testing, where there is still a mix between 18 and 24MP. 24MP is the likely final outcome, with the lower MP sensor testing AF speed and buffer management issues (less than 8FPS is the likely shooting speed)

If this is so, then it suggest that the 5D4 launch is still some way off? 

June

13th There has been little talk of the 5D4 of late, so take the latest [CR] with suitable care.

5D Mark IV after EOS-1D X Mark II
Q1 2016 shiping
4K video
New Flash system for 1D X II and 5D4
Sensors – 18MP to 28MP options
5DS / EOS 5DS R model split might apply to 5D4
New DIGIC processor

So what’s been mentioned in the past? 
18MP – April and Feb | 4k, 28MP, post 1Dx2 and flash system – March
All good stuff, but nothing that wouldn’t make up many a ‘wishlist’ I’ve been sent.

May

19th Indications that the 5D4 is out for testing [CR] with select photographers. No actual camera info as yet.

With 2016 being an Olympic year, both the Nikon D5 and Canon 1DX mk2 should be available before they start.
Check the timeline further down the page for how old different models are, and also why a Digic 7 chip looks relatively unlikely for a bit?

April

12th Some low MP specs sent for for the 5D4:
18MP, 100-204,800 ISO, 61 AF (all cross), 12 fps, Dual CFast cards, 4K Video Capture.

No dates or any other useful info, so this looks to be the same as at [NC] and heavy on the wishful thinking ;-)

10th A suggestion that the 5D4 will use dual readout technology, similar to the new C300 mk2 to aid video performance. [CR]

March

14th We’re told (thanks) that the 5D mk4 won’t be along until later in the year, not until the 5Ds/R is shipping in reasonable numbers. Part of the timing depends on just how well it sells and to whom – 5D3 sales in Europe have been holding up well, which might push the 5D4 back beyond the update of the 1D X.
This may or may not fit in with info (thanks) from the far east, that the 5D4 is due in August/September and would come in at 28MP, 9fps and with 4k video. Both the 5D4 and 1D X update would see the launch of a ‘significant’ advance in Canon’s flash control capabilities. This would also include adapters/controllers and firmware updates for recent models to make more use of the functionality.

As someone who uses flash rather rarely on my ageing 1Ds3 (I don’t really do ‘people photography’ in our business ;-), I’ve no idea what areas this could cover?
Both rumours are out beyond my normal ~3 month ‘reality window’, so deserve a suitable scepticism at the moment

February

23rd Is the camera mentioned yesterday the 5D C mentioned earlier this month [5th]
22nd Some specs [CR] that may reflect a 5D style camera out for testing.
18MP Full Frame CMOS
ISO 100-204,800
61 AF Points (all cross type)
12 fps
Dual CFast cards
4K Video
Watch for this one and variations doing the rounds, gaining in certainty as it moves from site to site ;-)
14th A quick reminder of the Canon timeline – sometimes useful when wondering what’s next…

 Crop 200020012002200320042005200620072008200920102011201220132014201520162017
      123412341234123412341234
BestFull   1Ds1Ds Mk II1Ds Mk III1D X1DX II
1.3  1D1D Mk II1D MkIIn1D Mk III1D Mk IV          
video              1D C     
HighFull               5Ds/5Dsr
      5D5D Mk II5D Mk III5D Mk IV
1.6          7D7D Mk II
'Better' Full              6D    
1.6D30D6010D20D30D40D50D60D70D80D
Mid1.6    300D
Rebel
Kiss
350D
XT
Kiss N
400D
XTi
Kiss X
450D
XSi
X2
500D
T1i
X3
550D
T2i
X4
600D
T3i
X5
650D
T4i
X6i
700D
T5i
X7i
750/760D
T6i/s
X8i
    
Micro1.6             100D SL1 X7    
Entry1.6         1000D / XS / F1100D / T3 / X501200D T5 X701300D T6
Mirror
-less
1.6               M5
              MM2M3    
               M10

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.

Video capable 4k | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual

8th If more evidence that the 5Ds is ‘not the 5Dmk4 you are looking for’ was needed, we’re told that its sensor has been specifically tuned for low ISO performance, dropping off markedly at the higher settings. See the 5Dspage for more.

5th In a more ‘out there’ rumour (thanks)we’re told that the ‘general purpose’ 5D4 will come along with 5D C specialist video DSLR. 1D C sales have not been good enough to get the return on development of a new version.

I’ve no idea about this one, since video on DSLRs just has no place in any of my work? Any comment welcome.

1st More 5Ds and 5Ds R details emerge. This isn’t the 5D mk4.

January

30th Some possible 5Ds details appear – 50.2MP and two versions (with and without AA filter).
With this news, many looking for the next 5D may wonder where the line is going, however we’ve just been told [thanks] that the 5D mark 4 will be announced in August, where it will feature much improved video and stills performance, and a ‘modest’ increase in MP.

As ever, take a pinch of salt with all rumours for more than a few months away.

At [CR] there is some more info about a potential 5D4 that:

“…will focus on being a lowlight event and sports type of camera with good enough image quality for pretty much anything else you throw at it. The camera could also be the next Canon DSLR to get 4K video recording, along with new video features.”

9th Three versions of a new 5D are suggested [CR] an updated 5D4 and two 5Ds models with and without AA filtering, at ~53MP

2014 December

30th With a rumoured high MP DSLR from Canon (main rumour page) I note that at [CR] they have been told that the camera could be the 5D mk4, which could also fit in with suggestions that the 6D2 will move upmarket.

November

22nd We can close up the rumour pages – the Seer of Seers, Sage of Sages, Prognosticator of Prognosticators and Camera Prophet Extraordinary, the great Krockwell has spoken and the 5D4 will be launched on March 17th 2015

Don’t rush to check if you see this appearing elsewhere though, it’s a boilerplate spacefiller page with ads ;-)

6th In a dealer sourced rumour [thanks], we’re again told that the 5D mk4 is due for launch at the start of February (in time for CP+ 12th-15th) along with ‘another Canon Pro DSLR’ around the same time.

I’d note that Canon tends to only launch one major camera at a time, and if there is to be a high end DSLR, such as a 1D X mk2, I’d have thought it would be announced before a 5D4? 

Perhaps time for the EOS 3D again? (one of our longest running rumours ;-)

BTW, that modular Canon camera that was mentioned – we had pics in 2008 – see below

August

17th In Germany it seems that Calumet aren’t expecting the 5D4 this year, since with an offer on the mk3 until the end of August, they are guaranteeing to buy back your 5D3 if a 5D4 appears. [Thanks for the pic!]

5d3 buyback guaratee

June

23rd A product advisory is issued in the US for the 5D3, relating to the LCD light leak issue [5D3 page]
21st Both the 5D4 and 1D X mk2 are to be announced January/February of next year, we’re told (thanks).
The 1D X mk2 will be announced fiirst (potentially later this year), but will ship later.
Both will incorporate significant advances in sensor design, which mean that there will be no high MP ‘3D’ class body this year.

The info suggested that this was what was being tested in the studios we heard about last month, and that elements of it woud appear in the upcoming 7D mk2, but that the real advance would not be seen until next year.

2014 March

26th A 3D or a 5D4? …3D page

2013 February

15th All we’ve heard of late is that there won’t be a new FF camera shipping in 2013 from Canon

2012 December

22nd The favourite higher spec camera rumours at the moment are for something to compete with the D800 to appear in 2013.

March

21st In what will become a long thread, I note a 5D4 ‘discussion’ on POTN
1st 5d mk3 rumours finally look entirely real:

22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor

DiG!C 5+ Image Processor

ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400

Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)

61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)

6.0 fps for high continuous shooting

Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage

3.2-type, ~1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II

iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor

Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles

Silent & low vibration modes

Dual card slots (CF & SD)

High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode

Multiple Exposures

Comparative Playback function

Improved durability and water and dust resistance

Min Shutter Speed – 30 sec

Max Shutter Speed – 1/8000 sec

Connectivity – USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)

OK, what about some 5D Mk4 specs?

2015 Announcement, 4k video, 30+MP, Digic 7 – will still be a proper DSLR with mirror ;-)

2012 February 

21st Still no 5D3, although the 2nd of March seems a popular date for launch guestimates at the moment…

2011 August

19th Still no 1Ds4, so the 5D3 is (IMHO) a 2012 camera – 2012 is a Photokina year and if you look at the timeline below, there are plenty of cameras that could be up for replacement.

new modular camera system

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