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New Canon cameraEOS 5D Mark 4

Information about Canon's replacement for the EOS 5D Mark 3

At the moment, my best guestimate for the 5D4 is a 2015 announcement.

Having collected camera and lens rumours for several years, I'm not expecting to see any serious rumour information until the follow-up for the 1D X gets announced. Despite the clamours of the 'DSLR is dead' crowd, I'm not expecting it to have an electronic viewfinder.

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5D Mk4 camera rumours - latest News

2014 November

  • 6th In a dealer sourced rumour [thanks], we're again told that the 5D mk4 is due for launch at the start of February (in time for CP+ 12th-15th) along with 'another Canon Pro DSLR' around the same time.
    • I'd note that Canon tends to only launch one major camera at a time, and if there is to be a high end DSLR, such as a 1D X mk2, I'd have thought it would be announced before a 5D4?
    • Perhaps time for the EOS 3D again? (one of our longest running rumours ;-)
    • BTW, that modular Canon camera that was mentioned - we had pics in 2008 - see below

August

  • 17th In Germany it seems that Calumet aren't expecting the 5D4 this year, since with an offer on the mk3 until the end of August, they are guaranteeing to buy back your 5D3 if a 5D4 appears. [Thanks for the pic!]

5d3 buyback guaratee

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June

2014 March

2013 February

  • 15th All we've heard of late is that there won't be a new FF camera shipping in 2013 from Canon

2012 December

  • 22nd The favourite higher spec camera rumours at the moment are for something to compete with the D800 to appear in 2013.

March

  • 21st In what will become a long thread, I note a 5D4 'discussion' on POTN
  • 1st 5d mk3 rumours finally look entirely real:
    • 22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
    • DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
    • ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
    • Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)
    • 61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
    • 6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
    • Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
    • 3.2-type, ~1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
    • iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
    • Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles
    • Silent & low vibration modes
    • Dual card slots (CF & SD)
    • High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
    • Multiple Exposures
    • Comparative Playback function
    • Improved durability and water and dust resistance
    • Min Shutter Speed – 30 sec
    • Max Shutter Speed – 1/8000 sec
    • Connectivity – USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)
  • OK, what about some 5D Mk4 specs?
    • 2015 Announcement, 4k video, 30+MP, Digic 7 - will still be a proper DSLR with mirror ;-)

2012 February

  • 21st Still no 5D3, although the 2nd of March seems a popular date for launch guestimates at the moment...

2011 August

  • 19th Still no 1Ds4, so the 5D3 is (IMHO) a 2012 camera - 2012 is a Photokina year and if you look at the timeline below, there are plenty of cameras that could be up for replacement.

2010 August

  • 22nd The 1Ds Mk4 is still not with us, so a 5D3 must be in 2011 at the earliest.
    • So, in August 2010 we're reckoning that the 5D mark4 could be the talk of Photokina 2014

new modular camera system

  Sensor  2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Flagship Full       1Ds 1Ds Mk II 1Ds Mk III 1D X          
APS-H     1D 1D Mk II 1D Mk II N 1D Mk III 1D Mk IV                      
Video                             1D C          
High Full             5D 5D Mk II 5D MkIII          
APS-C                     7D 7D2
'Better'  Full                             6D          
APS-C D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D          
Mid APS-C         300D
Rebel
Kiss Digital
350D
Rebel XT
Kiss N
400D
Rebel XTi
Kiss X
450D
Rebel XSi
Kiss X2
500D
T1i
Kiss X3
550D
T2i
Kiss X4
600D
T3i
X5
650D
T4i
X6i
700D
T5i
X7i
         
Micro APS-C                           100D
SL1
X7
         
Entry APS-C                   1000D
Rebel XS
Kiss F
1100D
Rebel T3
Kiss X50
1200D
T5
X70
       
Mirrorless APS-C                             M M2          

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.

Video capable | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual

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What does the 5D Mk3 replacement have to beat?

5D mk3 specs
Price
MSRP Body only: $3499, €3299, £2999 with 24-105mm: $4299
Body type
Body type Mid-size SLR
Body material Magnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution 5760 x 3840
Other resolutions 3840 x 2560, 2880 x 1920, 1920 x 1280, 720 x 480
Image ratio w:h 3:2
Effective pixels 22.3 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors 23.4 megapixels
Sensor size Full frame (36 x 24 mm)
Sensor type CMOS
Processor Digic 5+
Color space sRGB,Adobe RGB
Color filter array RGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISO Auto, 100 - 25600 in 1/3 stops, plus 50, 51200, 102400 as option
White balance presets 6
Custom white balance Yes (1)
Image stabilization No
Uncompressed format RAW
JPEG quality levels Fine, Normal
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3 [Exif Print] compliant)
  • Design rule for Camera File system (2.0)
  • RAW: RAW, sRAW1, sRAW2 (14bit, Canon original RAW 2nd edition)
  • Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Selective single-point
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Autofocus assist lamp by optional dedicated Speedlite
Digital zoom No
Manual focus Yes
Number of focus points 61
Lens mount Canon EF mount
Focal length multiplier
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCD Fixed
Screen size 3.2"
Screen dots 1,040,000
Touch screen No
Screen type Clear View II TFT LCD
Live view Yes
Viewfinder type Optical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage 100 %
Viewfinder magnification 0.71×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed 30 sec
Maximum shutter speed 1/8000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Auto+
  • Program AE
  • Shutter priority AE
  • Aperture priority AE
  • Manual (Stills and Movie)
  • Custom (x3)
Built-in flash No
External flash Yes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus Sync connector)
Continuous drive Yes (6 fps)
Self-timer Yes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
  • Partial
Exposure compensation ±5 EV (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing ±3 (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB Bracketing Yes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Format
  • H.264
Microphone Mono
Speaker Mono
Resolutions 1920 x 1080 (29.97, 25, 23.976 fps fps), 1280 x 720 (59.94, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (25, 30 fps)
Videography notes 1080 and 720 intra or inter frame, 480 inter frame
Storage
Storage types Compact Flash Type I (UDMA compatible), SD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage included None
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMI Yes (HDMI mini)
Wireless Optional
Remote control Yes (Remote control with N3 type contact, Wireless Controller LC-5, Remote Controller RC-6)
Physical
Environmentally sealed Yes
Battery Battery Pack
Battery description Lithium-Ion LP-E6 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA) 950
Weight (inc. batteries) 950 g (2.09 lb / 33.51 oz)
Dimensions 152 x 116 x 76 mm (5.98 x 4.57 x 2.99")
Other features
Orientation sensor Yes
Timelapse recording Yes (by cable and PC)
GPS Optional
GPS notes With optional GP-E2 unit

The 5D mk 2 specs

Here are the Old 5D specs for those of you who have forgotten :-)

eos 5d cut away viewThe EOS 5D's full-frame CMOS sensor records 4,368 x 2,912 pixels-that's 12.8 Megapixels, larger than many other companies' top-of-the-line sensors. The same size as a 35mm image on a traditional camera, the sensor operates without a conversion factor. This is perfect for taking advantage of the spectacular optics in Canon's L-series, and will be a joy for wide-angle enthusiasts who can make the most of their wide-angle lenses. This new CMOS sensor, designed in-house by Canon, provides smooth, high-resolution images similar to the EOS-1Ds Mark II but in a more compact body. Two automatic noise reduction features maximize the effectiveness of the EOS 5D's on-chip noise reduction. Noise reduction can be activated when noise is detected or it will simply come into play on any exposure of 1 second or longer.


DIGIC II Image Processor 3.0 fps for up to 60 consecutive JPEG or 17 RAW frames in a burst.
The EOS 5D's new 12.8 Megapixel sensor is driven by the revolutionary DIGIC II Image Processor for unprecedented performance and image quality. Thanks to the DIGIC II Image Processor, the EOS 5D is capable of shooting up to 3 frames-per-second for up to 60 JPEG or 17 RAW images. The information captured by the sensor is processed and assembled into images of exceptional clarity and resolution. Photographers can expect precise, natural colours, spot-on white balance and speed in any number of lighting situations. By handling larger volumes of image data, the DIGIC II Image Processor also contributes to lower power consumption: photographers will discover that they can shoot all day with the EOS 5D without having to change the battery!


eos 5d rear viewAdvanced 9-point AF with 6 additional Supplemental points
In addition to 9 different AF points for locking focus on subjects, even if they are not in the center of the composition, the EOS 5D features 6 Supplemental points around the center AF point which help to ensure an even greater degree of focus accuracy when tracking a moving subject. This feature is significant for sports photographers, as well as anyone who needs to keep focus locked on an unpredictable subject. The Supplemental AF points are not displayed in the viewfinder, and they cannot be manually selected. However, they are used in AI Servo AF mode when the EOS 5D is set for automatic focusing point selection, and also when the center focusing point is selected together with Custom Function 17-1.


New high-speed durable shutter
The EOS 5D boasts a newly developed, high-speed and durable shutter unit that was designed to meet the demanding requirements of a full frame sensor in a relatively compact body. With a top shutter speed of 1/8000 sec. and with a remarkable 100,000-cycle shutter life, it truly is a camera built to professional standards.

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