EOS 5D Mark 4

2013 February

• 15th All we've heard of late is that there won't be a new FF camera shipping in 2013 from Canon

2012 December

• 22nd The favourite higher spec camera rumours at the moment are for something to compete with the D800 to appear in 2013.

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March

• 21st In what will become a long thread, I note a 5D4 'discussion' on POTN
• 1st 5d mk3 rumours finally look entirely real:
• • 22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
• • DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
• • ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
• • Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)
• • 61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
• • 6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
• • Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
• • 3.2-type, ~1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
• • iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
• • Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles
• • Silent & low vibration modes
• • Dual card slots (CF & SD)
• • High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
• • Multiple Exposures
• • Comparative Playback function
• • Improved durability and water and dust resistance
• • Min Shutter Speed – 30 sec
• • Max Shutter Speed – 1/8000 sec
• • Connectivity – USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)
• OK, what about some 5D Mk4 specs?
• • 2015 Announcement, 4k video, 30+MP, Digic 7 - will still be a proper DSLR with mirror ;-)

February

• 21st Still no 5D3, although the 2nd of March seems a popular date for launch guestimates at the moment...

August

• 19th Still no 1Ds4, so the 5D3 is (IMHO) a 2012 camera - 2012 is a Photokina year and if you look at the timeline below, there are plenty of cameras that could be up for replacement.

2010 August

• 22nd The 1Ds Mk4 is still not with us, so a 5D3 must be in 2011 at the earliest.
• • So, in August 2010 we're reckoning that the 5D mark4 will be the talk of Photokina 2014

	Sensor	2000				2001				2002				2003				2004				2005				2006				2007				2008				2009				2010				2011				2012				2013
		1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4
Flagship	Full												1Ds							1Ds Mk II												1Ds Mk III																	1Dx
	APS-H							1D										1D Mk II							1D Mk II N					1D Mk III											1D Mk IV
High	Full																							5D												5D Mk II														5D3
	APS-C																																							7D
'Better'	Full																																																			6D
	APS-C	D30							D60				10D						20D						30D						40D				50D								60D
Mid	APS-C															300D Digital Rebel Kiss Digital						350D Digital Rebel XT Kiss Digital N						400D Digital Rebel XTi Kiss Digital X						450D Rebel XSi Kiss X2				500D T1i Kiss X3				550D T2i Kiss X4				600D T3i X5					650D T4i X6i			700D T5i X7i
Micro	APS-C																																																					100D SL1 X7
Entry	APS-C																																		1000D Rebel XS Kiss F											1100D Rebel T3 Kiss X50
Mirrorless	APS-C																																																			M

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates.

Video capable | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual

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What does the 5D Mk3 replacement have to beat?

5D mk3 specs

Price
MSRP	Body only: $3499, €3299, £2999 with 24-105mm: $4299
Body type
Body type	Mid-size SLR
Body material	Magnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution	5760 x 3840
Other resolutions	3840 x 2560, 2880 x 1920, 1920 x 1280, 720 x 480
Image ratio w:h	3:2
Effective pixels	22.3 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors	23.4 megapixels
Sensor size	Full frame (36 x 24 mm)
Sensor type	CMOS
Processor	Digic 5+
Color space	sRGB,Adobe RGB
Color filter array	RGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISO	Auto, 100 - 25600 in 1/3 stops, plus 50, 51200, 102400 as option
White balance presets	6
Custom white balance	Yes (1)
Image stabilization	No
Uncompressed format	RAW
JPEG quality levels	Fine, Normal
File format	JPEG (Exif 2.3 [Exif Print] compliant) Design rule for Camera File system (2.0) RAW: RAW, sRAW1, sRAW2 (14bit, Canon original RAW 2nd edition) Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus	Contrast Detect (sensor) Phase Detect Multi-area Selective single-point Single Continuous Face Detection Live View
Autofocus assist lamp	by optional dedicated Speedlite
Digital zoom	No
Manual focus	Yes
Number of focus points	61
Lens mount	Canon EF mount
Focal length multiplier	1×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCD	Fixed
Screen size	3.2"
Screen dots	1,040,000
Touch screen	No
Screen type	Clear View II TFT LCD
Live view	Yes
Viewfinder type	Optical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage	100 %
Viewfinder magnification	0.71×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed	30 sec
Maximum shutter speed	1/8000 sec
Exposure modes	Auto+ Program AE Shutter priority AE Aperture priority AE Manual (Stills and Movie) Custom (x3)
Built-in flash	No
External flash	Yes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus Sync connector)
Continuous drive	Yes (6 fps)
Self-timer	Yes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes	Multi Center-weighted Spot Partial
Exposure compensation	±5 EV (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing	±3 (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB Bracketing	Yes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Format	H.264
Microphone	Mono
Speaker	Mono
Resolutions	1920 x 1080 (29.97, 25, 23.976 fps fps), 1280 x 720 (59.94, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (25, 30 fps)
Videography notes	1080 and 720 intra or inter frame, 480 inter frame
Storage
Storage types	Compact Flash Type I (UDMA compatible), SD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage included	None
Connectivity
USB	USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMI	Yes (HDMI mini)
Wireless	Optional
Remote control	Yes (Remote control with N3 type contact, Wireless Controller LC-5, Remote Controller RC-6)
Physical
Environmentally sealed	Yes
Battery	Battery Pack
Battery description	Lithium-Ion LP-E6 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA)	950
Weight (inc. batteries)	950 g (2.09 lb / 33.51 oz)
Dimensions	152 x 116 x 76 mm (5.98 x 4.57 x 2.99")
Other features
Orientation sensor	Yes
Timelapse recording	Yes (by cable and PC)
GPS	Optional
GPS notes	With optional GP-E2 unit

The 5D mk 2 specs

21MP CMOS sensor (similar but newer design to EOS-1Ds Mark III)
Sensor dust reduction by vibration of filter
ISO 100 - 6400 calibrated range, ISO 50 - 25600 expansion (1Ds Mark III and 5D max ISO 3200)
Auto ISO (100 - 3200)
3.9 FPS continuous shooting
DIGIC 4 processor, new menus / interface as per the EOS 50D
Image processing features:
Highlight tone priority
Auto lighting optimizer (4 levels)
High ISO noise reduction (4 levels)
Lens peripheral illumination correction (vignetting correction)
RAW and SRAW1 (10 MP) / SRAW2 (5 MP)
RAW / JPEG selection made separately
Permanent display of ISO on both top plate and viewfinder displays
AF microadjustment (up to 20 lenses individually)
Three custom modes on command dial, Creative Auto mode
Image copyright metadata support
98% coverage viewfinder (0.71x magnification)
3.0" 920,000 dot LCD monitor with 'Clear View' cover / coatings, 170° viewing angle
Automatic LCD brightness adjustment (ambient light sensor)
Live view with three mode auto-focus (including face detection)
No mirror-flip for exposures in Live View if contrast detect AF selected
Movie recording in live view (1080p H.264 up to 12 minutes, VGA H.264 up to 24 mins per clip)
Two mode silent shooting (in live view)
New jump options in play mode
HDMI and standard composite (AV) video out
Full audio support: built-in mic and speaker, mic-in socket, audio-out over AV (although not HDMI)
IrPort (supports IR remote shutter release using optional RC1 / RC5 controllers)
UDMA CompactFlash support
New 1800 mAh battery with improved battery information / logging
New optional WFT-E4 WiFi / LAN / USB vertical grip
Water resistance: 10 mm rain in 3 minutes

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