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EOS R and Mirrorless Rumours 2012-2018

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This is the archive page for mirrorless rumours 2012-2018

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This covers all manufacturers, although Canon cameras will get more interest from myself (they match my lens collection).

Now that Nikon have introduced the Z series of mirrorless, info about their full frame mirrorless cameras will be here as well as the Nikon Z page

EOS-R ordering Adorama | B&H

EOS-RP ordering | Adorama | B&H | Park cameras

EOS R evf design

EOS-M/M2 – EOS-M3 – M5M6M6 IIM100 – M50

All have their own pages.

Rumoured Mirrorless: EOS RS | EOS RX

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Keith’s review of the EOS RP

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What does the RF mount mean for EF/EF-S & EF-M?
– see Keith’s articles about Canon’s changing lens mounts
and When will Keith (fully) switch to EOS R

Current mirrorless rumour page

2018 December

12th Strong suggestions that Canon will introduce sensor stabilisation into a future mirrorless model [CR]

Not unsurprising – Give me a 75MP EOS-R with stabilisation and multishot capabilities and I could see switching ;-) IBIS is not a vital item for me but in the nice to have category.

2nd A Canon interview gives a few hints about the future of EOS R [AP ]

  • AP: So now, you have four lens systems. Are you going to continue all four of them in the foreseeable future?
    SH: Yes
  • AP: Do you think that in five years time, Canon will still be making new DSLR’s?
    SH: Of course the situation is always changing and in the future, DSLRs will most likely experience a decline in popularity compared to mirrorless cameras, , but the optical viewfinder still has some advantages and we will continue to offer a choice for as long as our customers want it.
  • AP: If there was a mirrorless version of the EOS- 1D X, do you think people would still buy the EOS- 1D X?
    SH: We would guess that a mirrorless camera like that would be popular, and have already analysed which technology will be required in a camera in five years time.
  • AP: The EOS R does not have a number. What will future models be called? Are they all going to be EOS R plus a number?
    SH: We have not decided the numbering convention of future models yet.


25th A 75+MP EOS R 5Ds replacement has been the subject of numerous rumours going round. [CR]

If coming, then later in 2019 is more likely – we’ve seen rumours suggesting this too, but without any supporting evidence.  Interesting, if true ;-)

9th Ok, how long until the first EOS-R crop sensor camera? Despite some claims, no-one at Canon has ruled out APS-C. A smaller sensor and shutter makes for a potentially 77D/80D level camera quite likely, but probably not until Canon has at least one more FF EOS R body.

At [CR] there is a suggestion that we’ll see APS-C at perhaps the 7D level.

One reason to expect this is an initial  desire to pitch EOS R at the higher end (aka more profitable).

I don’t entirely agree with Thom Hogan [TH] about quickly ditching all the EF-S APS-C range and expect Canon isn’t quite done with DSLRs yet – that said he makes some good points about the serious changes in the market this year. Product changes often happen quicker than you think, gathering a momentum of their own, so an interesting 2019 is due ;-)

Meanwhile, in a quick look at mirrorless, I’m hoping to get a Hasselblad X1D-50C to have a look at (ETA uncertain at the moment, but email me if you’ve any questions)


29th A Canon interview at DCWatch [Google xlt].

Although translated, there are some things of interest…

Such as what does the ‘R’ stand for:

The development concept word for this new system is “Reimagine optical excellence.” The letter “R” took the first letter of its first word “Reimagine”. However, in the development stage, various words such as “Revert”, “Reborn”, etc. with “R” flickered with the meaning of “redefining” EOS again “to reactivate”. As a result, we have developed the concept of “Reimagine optical excellence.” And decided to use “R” for both product name and system name. I felt that I could put down the feelings of the development team well.

It also seems that the 28-70/2 and 50/1.2 lenses were indeed the ‘because we can’ lenses to show some of the capabilities of the RF mount.

There are several mentions of a ‘full lineup’ strategy, but several times the EOS R is pointed to as a ‘full frame’ system and that EOS-M will continue for APS-C.

That’s right. Since EOS R is a full-size system, it can not be downsized to EOS M size. EOS M has a role / existence value as an APS – C system.

Now, I’m inclined to think that means that EOS-M and EOS R will be treated as two lines, so your EF-M lenses (16mm flange distance) simply won’t work with RF mount cameras (an RF to EF-M adapter might be possible).

Nothing said rules out APS-C RF mount cameras – I’ve seen some comments that there will be no APS-C EOS R cameras, but even allowing for Google translation I see nothing that actually says that in this interview.

Info from Tamron about EOS R compatibility:

We would like to announce that we have clarified compatibility in general operations(*1) of following Tamron Di & Di II lenses on Canon EOS R, which was newly released on October 25, 2018, with Canon Mount Adapter(*2).

Compatible models in general operations(*3)

SP 15-30mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A041) for Canon
SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A032) for Canon
SP 70-200mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A025) for Canon
SP 35mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F012) for Canon
SP 45mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F013) for Canon
SP 85mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F016) for Canon
SP 90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO 1:1 VC USD (Model F017) for Canon
17-35mm F/2.8-4 Di OSD (Model A037) for Canon
70-210mm F/4 Di VC USD (Model A034) for Canon

(*1) Defined to work on existing DSLR cameras
(*2) Canon “Mount Adapter EF-EOS R”
(*3) With the latest version of lens firmware

About other Tamron models, we will make a further announcement of the compatibility at our support web page once the operation tests are completed. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.

Given the effort Canon has gone to, to enable any EF lens to work via adapters, any lens that works on your EF mount camera is likely to work at a basic level. It’s once you start trying to do stuff to the images in-camera (DLO for example) that compatibility issues may arise.

27th Sigma have published info about using their lenses with the EOS R

25th Canon IBIS on its way? A Japanese patent application covers it [Main rumour page]

A few more EOS R snippets in another Photokina interview – this time from Lensvid [LV]

A key point for myself was the confirmation that:

“Just like the Nikon Z6/Z7 – Canon targeted with the EOS-R photo enthusiasts and not pro shooters. This led to many decisions that people have later criticized (slow shooting speed, single memory card slot, no full sensor readout in 4K), however, for the most part, all of these are the result of the way Canon’s engineers designed this camera for the specific target audience they went for (just think about this camera as a slightly more advanced mirrorless 6D MKII).”


“Canon invented the dual card slot for cameras and it understand how it is important for reliability, however for the target market of this camera – Canon didn’t see the need to add it. However, Burnhill made it clear that a pro mirrorless camera will most likely include a dual card slot.”

22nd Don’t expect any real revelations but there’s an interview [DPR] with some Canon designers from the EOS R project.

Definitely a design built for future flexibility. It will take a few iterations to get really going.

21st How is the EOS R built inside – a teardown (LR) shows some interesting features and why this is not a ‘5 series’ equivalent.

From the department of the obvious, more suggestions that the Sony E mount was never designed with full frame in mind [PR]

ff mounts


18th What’s next in the EOS-R range? (it’s that until a naming convention emerges)

Two bodies are suggested [CR] one above and one below the first model.

First up should be the simpler FF model, which can of course use the same (single card) body design – next should come something up-market (I’m going to suggest that the joystick and second card slot will return).

That said, the timeline (see below) points to plenty of DSLR updates due too…

8th I’m going to suggest that rumours of the demise of the EOS-M and EF-M lenses are very premature.

In Japan, the BCN camera shipment data for September has Canon holding the top four places [BCN via Google xlt]

bcn sept 18

Of course, these numbers [via cn] move all over the place from month to month, but the EOS-M series does well in Japan, and that’s where Canon is based. An M5 mk2 early in 2019 would be a good sign (a second EOS-M update is hinted at in the regulatory filings – M6 or M100 update?)

I’ve long wondered about the extent that people migrated from EF-S to EF cameras – not the amount some people discuss it on forums and especially not rumour forums, but real sales of cameras, kits and lenses.

When I looked at the history of Canon mount changes last month I wondered how the APS-C DSLR line would move and like anyone outside of Canon I don’t know.  The 80D replacement and 7Dmk2 replacement are the key cameras here… Oh, that and do we see some new xxxD cameras? (wireless regulatory filings from a few weeks ago point to some xxxD and xxD updates – less so for the 7D3)

It’s only six months until the next photkina (Wed. 8th May to Sat. 11th May) and there’s the usual slew of spring shows to come such as CP+ (Thu. 28th Feb. to Sun. 3rd March)

Reviews of the EOS-R suggest that some of its limitations come from a lack of processing ‘horsepower’, so do we need to see Digic9 before we get ‘Pro’ DSLR performance or will dual Digic8 cut it?

Time for the updated Timeline (now with added EOS-R!) 

Sketch out your updates… ;-)

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual

6th DPR have an initial review, after a while using the EOS-R.

“I suspect that most users that will invest in an EOS R will be mid-level enthusiasts (i.e. Rebel and EOS 80D upgraders) that are most interested in the larger sensor and the fact that it says ‘Canon’ on the front; I also suspect they’ll not be terribly interested in the fact that it’s Canon’s first ‘serious’ mirrorless offering. Unfortunately for those users, if you come to the EOS R with expectation of how a Canon camera ‘should work,’ you’re likely to be frustrated for a bit. You’ll be much better off approaching it with an open mind.

All that said, we’re not meaning to let Canon off easy on this one. There are definitely some aspects of the EOS R that need to be refined or reworked (the default out-of-box action for the M-Fn Bar is to cryptically flash ‘not available’ at you), even for a less demanding audience. We’ll of course be addressing those when we complete our full review. In the meantime, for those of us waiting for Canon to usher in a truly revolutionary camera built around the new RF mount, one aimed at more demanding users and more demanding use cases, I think we’ll just have to wait a little longer.”

2nd A flurry of suggestions that Canon will be bringing out an APS-C EOS-R and a ‘flagship’ version early next year [CR]

Apart from lots of comments that such cameras are ‘on their way’ we’ve seen nothing of any reliability as yet. Obviously Canon will want to build the momentum of the EOS R and RF mount.  There is mention of a FF mirrorless in wireless regulatory filings from last month (main rumour page 14th Sept)


  • Mirror-less camera | FF
  • Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed
  • Maximum image size of test machine: 6240 x 4160
  • Probably will be released within 1 year

So ~26MP? Where does that fit relative to the first EOS R (how long until we see a coherent numbering system?) If Canon thought the R was towards 5D4 level, then does the next bring in a ‘basic FF’ or a step upwards?

Then there is the obvious question of just what ‘flagship’ means the the context  of EOS R? To me it’s always been the 1 series, which are durable, big and hefty.

My 5Ds may have Canon’s highest MP sensor in it, but it ain’t flagship – that category belonged to my 1Ds and 1Ds mk3.

I suspect that a high MP EOS R is rather more deliverable by Canon at the moment than something to match/exceed the 1D X mk2. It would also counter the Nikon Z7 which is looking a rather nice camera…


29th A couple of US patent applications [Lens page] suggest potential wide zooms (~17-70) pitched at lower end EOS-R models. Why RF? A shorter back focus might indicate EF-S, but the designs have full frame coverage.

27th Another ‘technical’ Nikon review [DcW] suggests that lower end and APS-C cameras will make it into the Z range. Of course, it’s in Canon’s and Nikon’s interest at the moment to not give any impression of ‘forcing’ users ay particular way.

It’s fifteen years since our first rumour notes – things have changed in some areas [see main rumour page]

25th Panasonic say ‘hold on a minute’ and announce two full frame cameras – not until March 2019 though…

Panasonic FF specsPanasonic FF specs 2

They will use the L mount – one of Leica’s announcements:

Leica Camera has five announcements at Photokina:

  • Leica L Mount: A first-of-its-kind pioneered by Leica in strategic alliance with Panasonic and SIGMA, the Leica L-Mount allows for a nearly limitless array of creative options by combining different interchangeable lenses with cameras featuring different sensor formats.
  • Leica S3: The brand new Leica S3 medium format camera features a striking increase in resolution and impeccable performance in any lighting situation.
  • Leica FOTOS: New mobile application Leica FOTOS enables Leica photographers to instantly transfer photos from a camera to a phone, as well as features an immersive viewing experience that allows photographers to assess and edit every detail of a raw image, including exposure.
  • Leica CL Silver: The Leica CL, is now available in a sleek silver finish.
  • Firmware updates are now available for Leica SL-System, Leica S (Typ 007), Leica M10 and Leica M10-P.

24th A bit more about Canon ‘R’ development

Leica, Sigma and Panasonic are working together, using the L mount [announcement]

Going forward, what does Canon and Nikon do with DSLRs?  An interesting comment from Thom Hogan [TH] reminds us to keep a close eye on DSLR and lens announcements to get a feel for whether it’s both DSLR and Mirrorless at the moment or whether there really is only mirrorless from now on. He points to several ageing Nikon models and that their DX line might be considered pretty much dead if genuinely new stuff isn’t here before much longer.

Why o why didn’t the EOS-R get feature ‘x’ – an all to common question that really shouldn’t be too difficult to answer, if you don’t believe the ‘R’ was made to meet your personal camera needs (real and imaginary) but was built by a camera company constrained by the need to sell their products to a particular market. Oh, and some technology just wasn’t ready at the price/performance/market point.

An interview [HZ] covers some of these points. IBIS/rear controls/video crop? The answer would seem to be an obvious “wait for truly ‘pro’ models”

Apropos of this, I recently heard from a long term pro 5 series user about why, after some testing, the EOS-R wasn’t for him. Different reasons perhaps from my own, but the same ‘nice, but not -yet- for me’.

Their comments:

Too small, not enough physical buttons:

  • No single button for ISO
  • No AF joystick
  • No (vertical) quick control dial
  • AF point select button too low down
  • No way to QUICKLY move AF point

The alternative controls were not satisfactory:

  • Multifunction bar not precise enough for ISO
  • Touch screen for AF point moving moved by nose (even when set to upper right only)
  • Control pad for moving AF point too slow

On the other hand the electronic viewfinder was very good:

  • When static, large and clear and no different from an optical viewfinder
  • Only when subject movement or during zooming or panning do you see a delay
  • The RF 24-105 was nice and compact compared to EF 24-105L I & II

I’d note no mention of the single card slot ;-)

16th An interesting set of notes [IR] of discussions with Canon engineers about aspects of the EOS R. Some notes on AF performance and also some more on the design of the RF mount.

It is indeed a mount designed to last the next 30 years…

14th What’s the next EOS R camera? – and some new EOS-M cameras.
A hint in regulatory findings (all on the main Canon rumours page)

13th The EOS systems disk for the EOS R and the EOS R manual [PDF]  are available from Canon HK

10th This page becomes the place for EOS R rumours as well as any other mirrorless camera

The 5D IV, 5Ds and a slew of APS-C cameras (7D2/80D/M5/M6) all point to EOS R is this image from the MyNavi article below

eos r future

Comments about EOS R development – translated comments from [MyNavi] suggest that IBIS nay be an option and that Cinema EOS ‘R’ system may be or 8k. Note that this is translated so read accordingly.

  • The EOS R sensor has the same number of pixels as EOS 5D Mark IV, but the sensor itself is newly developed. The content has changed drastically, such as adoption of new dual pixel CMOS AF and arrangement of microlenses according to EOS R system.
  • The processing performance of DIGIC 8 has been greatly improved than before, and the function of the digital lens optimiser can be realised faster in real time when mounting the RF lens, contributing to the performance improvement of the dual pixel CMOS AF ing. The performance of noise reduction has also been strengthened, compared with the EOS 5D Mark IV, the usual ISO sensitivity has been increased by one third.
  • EOS R basically exceeds the overall image quality more than the single lens reflex camera of the EF mount. The most important difference is created by the digital lens optimiser, so that information coming from the lens can be processed in real time.
  • EVF eye points as with DSLRs. Designed so that the four corners can be seen even from a distant position, so we can see every corner even if you wear glasses.
  • Basically, there is no possibility of installing a control ring in the EF lens, because the control ring uses the new contact increased in the new mount.
  • When installing the camera shake compensation mechanism inside the body, we must overcome problems such as size, cost and heat generation. Of course, it does not mean that you do not put the camera shake compensation mechanism inside the body. Judge the nature of the camera and select it. We fully know the merit of camera shake compensation in the body, so we will consider it including it.
  • First of all, we will introduce EOS R as a well-balanced middle class, but of course we are thinking of higher and lower models as well.
  • I am thinking of CINEMA EOS using the EOS R system. It is supposed to be 8 K as an EOS R system.

In the EOS R series, it is said that installing camera shake compensation in the body judges based on the nature of the camera and so on, so in the future, both models equipped with camera shake compensation in the body, There seems to be a high possibility that the lineup will be done.

There are some interesting bits to note in the article, such as the choice of 54mm mount diameter and 20mm flange distance as a balance between size and future system design. I’d not seen the EVF design before.

EOS R evf design

An RF lens roadmap suggests 6-7 RF lenses a year for a while


9th Jared Polin released some RAW files from the EOS R converted to DNG format.

Split into two parts:

It seems that the EOS R will be getting firmware feature updates at some point [CR]

  • Eye detect AF in continuous shooting. Currently in just single shot.
  • Additional touch bar functionality.
  • Continuous shooting in silent shutter mode. The EOS R only allows this feature in single shot at launch.
  • Adjustments to video functionality. The 4K crop will not be changed, nor will the maximum frame rate in 4K.
  • Bug fixes

A range of filters planned for the EF->RF filter adapter by Aurora [CR]

  • Fixed neutral density filters family: PowerND,
  • Variable ND filter family: PowerXND II 128 (1 – 7 stops) and 2000 (5 – 11 stops),
  • Circular polarising filter: PowerCPL.

6th An announcement from Fujifilm  with their X-T3. A 26MP X-Trans sensor and 4K/60p video is of note.

The top panel reminds me what the important settings are for a camera ;-)

Key Features

  • 26MP X-Trans CMOS 4 APS-C sensor with no low-pass filter
  • 495 Autofocus points
  • 2.16m Phase Detection pixels with 100% coverage
  • 11 FPS Continuous Shooting
  • X-Trans 4 Image Processor
  • Advanced Dynamic Range mode
  • 4K/UHD Video – 60p 10 bit 4:2:2 (H.265)
  • Weather & Dust-resistant Body
  • 3.69m dot 100fps Eye View Finder – capable of 30fps blackout free
  • 390 shot battery life

X-T3 top

See full info and previews at DPR

5th EOS-R announcement day – all the specs/reviews/info will be on the EOS-R info page

Not all EOS- R there are other lenses too, such as the  EF-M 32mm f/1.4 STM.

How does this fit in with the new mount – see my article about Canon and changes of lens mounts

3rd Panasonic’s FF camera will have a new mount [43r]

Probably announced 25th Sept, but shipping next March.

Some updates on possible Sony activity [sr]

– High End APS-C E-mount camera to be announced at or shortly AFTER Photokina
– New Zeiss fixed lens Full Frame camera with autofocus prime lens to be announced on September 27
– The A7sIII is 90% likely to be announced within 1-2 months. Maybe in October at Photo Plus

An interesting and nicely PR free interview with Nikon’s Z camera designers at [IR]

z flange on body

2nd We now have very detailed specs for the EOS R

Already I can hear the wailing on forums from it only having 1 card slot ;-)

It’s expected that Panasonic will be announcing a full frame camera later this month [MR] – no camera until next year though.

As yet, no details on lens mount, but adios M4/3.  It will probably be very good for video…


31st Thing have moved on enough that I’ve set up an EOS R mirrorless page just for the assorted suggestions we’re suddenly seeing.

I was asked about my thoughts on mirrorless and I’m one of those working photographers, who still awaits a convincing ‘use-case’ for mirrorless. I like a lot of the design effort that Nikon seems to have put in to the Z series, which for an initial offering looks to have seriously thought about usability as compared to some of the ‘designed with photographers in a nearby building’ offerings of Sony. When Canon enter this market, I’m also expecting something that’s been seriously designed with the needs of photographers – we shall see ;-)

29th Will it be the EOS-R? Canon mirrorless rumours seem to have gone into free-form ‘who knows’ mode with numerous suggestions that a full frame mirrorless option will get an announcement next Wednesday (5th Sept.) [CR)

For us to get to a week from any announcement with no real rumour details points to Canon’s best ever leak management or the best hoax specs for a while ;-)

22nd Some press photos of the new Nikon Z6 and Z7 appear – ready for launch tomorrow.

See the Nikon Z6/Z7 info page for details.

nikon z 4

15th A suggestion [CR] that Canon won’t light their FF mirrorless fireworks until after Photokina in September. Of course, with the next Photokina running in May 2019…

2nd Canon seem to have scored a hit with the M50, both in sales and in DPR’s recent ‘shootout’

Nikon continues its teaser campaign for FF mirrorless, with a gilimpse of the mount


25th Full pre-announcement press releases for the new  camera (s) on the Nikon Mirrorless page

23rd Nikon start their mirrorless advertising campaign with a low light ‘teaser’

They also have a (currently empty) web site at

19th A Canon patent application [USPTO] looks at an extension grip for a small camera.


16th In the last month or so I’ve had no rumours sent in about Canon’s mirrorless plans that didn’t strike me as pure wishful thinking (positive and negative) or slight re-hashes on what Craig published at Canon Rumours. Even the fan-boy ‘you read it here first’ rumour sites seemed going round in circles.

As such I can only welcome the clarifications at [CR]

The rumours for Nikon’s FF mirrorless have made that clear change you see as bits of ‘real stuff’ come out in the weeks running up to an announcement.  I note that at [NR] there is this comment

“The upcoming mirrorless full-frame camera is rumored to be the most expensive Nikon marketing campaign ever with bloggers meetups in exotic locations and maybe even some celebrities involvement.”

Expect something big for when Canon decided to go all-in as well…

11th The Nikon 1 series is no more – all models marked as discontinued  [Nik via Google xlt]

9th It looks as if the flow of Nikon mirrorless rumours has been turned up with a number of additional details appearing (but still no mount details) [NR]

  • Over 400 AF points, not sure about the exact number, it should be somewhere between 430-450. The AF is supposed to be very fast.
  • The rear LCD screen is tiltable just like the Nikon D850.
  • There is a second LCD screen on the top of the camera
  • only one selection wheel on top of the camera.
  • The camera’s “prism” with the EVF is a bit less angular/smoother when compared to the Sony a7.
  • The new 24-70 mirrorless full frame kit lens will indeed be f/4.
  • K listed in the technical specifications
  • The new Nikon mirrorless camera will have a nice finish and a very comfortable grip.
  • The overall handling/feeling is supposed to be excellent – this is coming from somebody who is/has tested the camera.
  • Most likely no built-in flash.
  • The promo materials should include dancers.
  • Potential names: Z300 and Z500

The lack of mount information hints that this drip-drip of info is being coordinated

8th One of the upcoming Canon FF mirrorless cameras for 2018? No real news as yet on what though [CR]

If it’s for real then we should start seeing some more solid leaks in the next month.  Photokina runs from September the 26th to the 29th.

5th It looks as if Canon are happy to wait for their FF mirrorless offerings with some broad brush specs and shipping by mid 2019. [CR] maybe something for next year’s inaugural spring Photokina? No news on the mount though.

4th In that way that rumours tend to clarify a month or two before announcements, a much more detailed set of specs for two Nikon mirrorless cameras has appeared [precis from NR]

  • Two cameras: 24-25MP and ~45MP FF assumed
  • Similar size to the Sony a7 (better ergonomics and a better grip)
  • 5-axis in-body stabilisation
  • 9fps
  • New mount. 55mm was suggested. Previous Z-mount dimensions were 49mm for the actual opening and 65.4mm for the entire mount diameter.
  • Mount will allow for f/0.95 lenses
  • Memory cards: XQD and CF Express (?)
  • EVF resolution: 3.6M
  • 3 Lenses:: 24-70mm, 35mm and 50mm

Pricing:  45MP ~ $4,000/€4,000 (with the 24-70mm lens) | 25MP model will be under $3,000/€3,000 (also with a lens). Announcement: end of July (on or around July 23rd) and shipping shortly after (August 23rd). Maybe later though.

Interesting suggestions – looks as if we won’t have to wait too long.


30th An update from wireless regulatory filings, from a recent list [Nok] includes several mirrorless options.

One, maybe two, FF mirrorless are there. Only a FF mirrorless and EOS M5 mk2 for this year?

Note that this is the only info from the (translated) lists – watch out for it being conflated on the fan-rumorz sites and presented with certainty ;-)


  • Mirror-less camera
  • Full frame
  • Wi-Fi | Bluetooth installed 
  • Not compatible with smartphone’s Bluetooth remote control function
  • Maximum size of test image: 6720 × 4480 (~30MP)
  • Release in late 2018 to early 2019


  • Mirror-less camera
  • Probably full frame (not APS-C)
  • Wi-Fi | Bluetooth installed
  • Compatible with smartphone’s Bluetooth remote control function
  • Probably released in 2019

EC 811

  • Mirror-less camera [M5 mk2 maybe for Photokina 2018]
  • APS-C
  • Wi-Fi | Bluetooth installed
  • Compatible with smartphone’s Bluetooth remote control function

8th A new mirrorless mount appears in a Japanese patent application from Nikon.

nikon mirrorless

Note the connections at the top of the body – the Nikon 1 had them at the bottom, whilst the ‘F’ mount has them at the top.

This is what the 8 connections do.

lens communications

5th A very good analysis of just what Nikon needs to do with upcoming mirrorless camera models. by Thom Hogan

Many of the basics could be said of Canon, although the EF lens switch in the eighties will make good legacy lens support a lot easier. I definitely agree with Thom’s point about needing a range of cameras and complementing high end DSLRs not replacing them. Irrespective of what mirrorless turns up, Canon still needs leading edge replacements for the 5Ds/5D4/1DX2/7D2 at some time.


29th For those with spare cash, it looks as if Leica will announce a new full frame mirrorless next month, between the CL and SL models [LR]

24th Whilst there is speculation over just how many MP will go into a Canon FF mirrorless camera [CR] there’s nothing much about the mount choice yet.

4th A roundup of current Nikon mirrorless guesstimates [NR]

  • Announcement – Photokina
  • Shipping – November
  • One camera (FF?) and two lenses to start
  • New mount – special ‘smart’ F mount adapter

Expect this widely conflated and repeated elsewhere ;-)


30th It seems that Nikon are now prepared to mention that a new mirrorless system is coming – a news item on Japanese TV (NHK) suggests that a product will be on the market by next spring.

It’s actually from CP+ earlier this year (18:30 in)

23rd A (very) brief mention of Nikon’s mirrorless plans (full steam ahead, a camera by next March, and on show at a foreign trade event) appear in Japan [via NR]

19th A Canon patent application [USPTO] looks at a design for a lens mount adapter that allows for different flange distances with different adapters.

Canon adapter-1Canon adapter-2

Like many patent applications this one covers a lot of options.

The patent includes options for including lenses in the adapter, both for wide and tele conversion.

Could this be a solution for a Canon mirrorless camera? … or at least part of one?

17th Two mirrorless full frame ‘prosumer’ models are suggested as on their way, with the ‘top’ one announced first [CR]

Still uncertainty over the lens mount ;-)

16th Suggestions for a Canon mirrorless event in mid-May [MR] – could be just M50 related, but no other details as yet.

6th A new design for a tilt screen is shown in a Japanese patent application from Canon [CN]

tilt screen

2nd The mirrorless hype wars seem to be stepping up, with assorted claims and counterclaims of specifications.

As yet we’re just too far away from any products for anything other than guesswork inspiring whatever specs you might see.

A recent Nikkei [NK] article suggests Nikon/Canon bringing forward pro level mirrorless, but in fact there’s little more to it than noting Sony’s products and saying that Canikon will be doing something.

So far we’ve been sent three sets of specs. for a full frame mirrorless – please do better folks, not one was more than plausible ;-)

All good fun…


23rd A Canon full frame mirrorless is suggested as a Q1 2019 product [CR] – no info on the mount. We still far enough away that several design options could still be out for test.

22nd The Laowa 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D wide angle is announced for mirrorless (EF-M,Sony E, Fuji).

14th With Canon’s CEO mentioning a push for increased market share (main Canon rumour page), it seems that Sony’s expecting FF mirrorless cameras from Canon and Nikon within the year [DPR].

10th Suggestions of a full-frame mirrorless Canon test body ‘seen’ [CR]

I shouldn’t think anyone could argue about Canon having prototype FF mirrorless camera bodies – they have probably ‘existed’ for quite a few years ;-)
Expect this one to be conflated and magnified elsewhere, along with a few schoolyard ‘We said it first ‘ gripes from some of the fan sites ;-)

7th New firmware for three EF-M lenses supports ‘dual sensing IS’  – as found on the new M50 (and only M50)



26th The M50 is announced – specs as leaked…  It’s 4k and makes you wonder what we’ll see in a M5 mk2 and the eventual full frame mirrorless.

I’ve put all EOS M50 info on its own page.

M50 top view

23rd US prices for M50 options

  • Canon EOS M50 Body (Black) $779
  • Canon EOS M50 (Black) w/EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM $899
  • Canon EOS M50 (White) w/EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM $899
  • Canon EOS M50 (Black) w/Zoom Lens Kit $1249
  • Canon EOS M50 Video Creators Kit $999

More specs appear for the M50 [via DCI] – still translated

  • Dual Sensing IS in body – The information of the lens and the information of the gyro sensor of the lens are used to correct camera shake and improvement of the effect of 0.5 stops
  • The new silent mode can shoot without any shutter sound
  • Auto Improvement of lighting optimiser
  • Improvement of high brightness side gradation priority function
  • 4K / full HD time lapse function
  • Microphone jack stereo microphone DM – E1 compatible
    Distance between moving subject and background. Improvement of AF accuracy during tracking of moving subjects using information
  • 2 Axis Electronic Level
  • Supports HDR output from HDMI when playing RAW images

22nd Expanded specs for the M50 [Nok]  Note that these are still translated specs so read with care

  • 24.1 Megapixels APS-C CMOS
  • DIGIC 8
  • Dual pixel CMOS AF with greatly improved performance
    • AF area is enlarged by about 38% with corresponding lens (100% vertical × 88% wide in live view image display range)
    • The selectable AF point is a corresponding lens with a maximum of 143 points (99 points for non-compatible lenses)
  • Pupil detection AF
  • Dual Sensing IS
  • Silent mode
  • DLO in camera
  • RAW development in camera
  • Video: 4K 25p / 24p, FHD 60p, HD 120p
  • Frame cutout from 4K movie is possible
  • 5 Axis Electronic Image Stabilizer · Combination IS
  • Standard ISO: 100-25600 (extended ISO: 51200)
  • Continuous: Up to 10 frames / sec (at servo AF: up to 7.4 frames / sec)
  • EVF: 0.39 type 2.36 million dot Organic EL
  • 3 type 104 million dots Bali angle touch panel liquid crystal
  • Wi-Fi · Bluetooth · NFC installed
  • Wireless remote controller BR-E1 compatible
  • HDMI HDR output compatible
  • Supports the next-generation CR3 RAW format and the new C-RAW compression format
  • The C – RAW format is 40% smaller in file size than conventional RAW, and it corresponds to in – camera RAW development and digital lens optimiser
  • Battery: LP-E 12
  • Weight: 387 g black, 390 g white (including battery and memory card)
  • Colour: Black / White


20th An image and specs of the M50 appear [Nok]

eos M50

Specifications as known (translated)

  • 24.1 Megapixels APS-C CMOS
  • Dual pixel CMOS AF
  • DIGIC 8
  • 4K Video
  • Standard ISO: 100-25600 (extended ISO: 51200)
  • Continuous: Up to 10 fps (at servo AF: up to 7.4 fps)
  • EVF: 2.36 million dot organic EL
  • 3″  multi angle touch panel lcd display
  • Wi-Fi · Bluetooth · NFC installed
  • Supports the next-generation CR3 RAW format and the new C-RAW compression format
    The C-RAW format is 40% smaller in file size than conventional RAW, and it corresponds to in-camera RAW Development and digital lens optimiser
  • Body available in black or white

13th A ’50mm equivalent’ EF-M 32/1.4 is expected [CR] in the run up to Photokina.

10th It seems very likely [CR] that the upcoming M50 will support 4k video and become the first Canon APS-C camera to do so.  This definitely pushes up the likelihood that the 7D3 (and maybe 90D) will also get 4k…

6th I’ve been asked about suggestions that the upcoming M50 would be full frame – this is news to me and seems to have been manufactured by some of the more ‘We told you first/fanboy’ rumour sites and amplified via various uncritical reposts ;-)

The M50 is an interesting option and maybe will require a bit of re-organisation of the rows in the timeline, but it’s not FF yet ;-)


30th What will Nikon actually do for mirrorless? Thom Hogan [TH] casts his eye over what Nikon may soon (ish) be releasing, and those of you eagerly anticipating a full frame mirrorless may be in for a wait.

19th It seems [CR] that Canon has a big mirrorless event next month for ‘important people’.

It could be lots of things – a new mid range mirrorless was expected for CP+, with full frame at Photokina (September). We also have Nikon making its mirrorless move, so this could just be to take the shine off that. Are we about to see a whole new line of mirrorless cameras and a coherent roadmap?
The invites are said to be quite elaborate – any more info gratefully received ;-)

16th When Nikon launches its FX mirrorless models, any new mount puts limits on lens availability. Fortunately Sigma has produced quite a few mirrorless lenses and there’s a suggestion that they may be there to help fill the void [MR]

2018 January 11th Canon have been asking around about what various Canon users would like to see in a mirrorless pro level camera [CR]

Are Nikon introducing a new ‘Z-mount’ for mirrorless (49mm wide & 16mm flange distance) [NR]

Nikon lens Z mount patent

A Japanese Canon patent application shows a mirrorless adapter that doubles as a reflex viewfinder [CN]

Canon vf adapter

2017 November

23rd The M50 appears in Russian registration info. [nok]

M50 Colour: Black / White
Kit: Body, 15-45mm IS STM, Double Zoom, Double Lens (15-45mm / 22mm), 18-150mm IS STM

13th Before you can sell a product with any radio/wireless elements it needs registration and some countries/organisations make this info easier to find…

Hence Nokishita spotting a ‘Kiss’ M/ EOS M50.

‘Kiss’ is usually reserved for cameras in Japan in the ‘Rebel’ category.
Does the M50 suggest I might need another row in the timeline?

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual


27th Nikon files a Japanese patent application (P2017-194642A) for a focal plane shutter for a mirrorless camera.

The animation shows it opening – the top blade would then come down

nikon shutter


16th As widely trailed, the G1 X Mark III is launched

United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, 16 October 2017 – Canon today announces the latest addition to its PowerShot G range, the flagship PowerShot G1 X Mark III. Replacing the G1 X Mark II, it’s a killer combination of Canon’s EOS DSLR image quality with the handling and compact size of a PowerShot. With a new, precision, 3x optical lens, an APS-C sensor and Canon’s premium DIGIC 7 processor, this camera is versatile enough to be used for high-quality street photography, all the way up to documentary-style storytelling.

Superb image quality, rapid speed
Perfect for today’s enthusiast photographer seeking DSLR quality in a compact form, this camera’s small size makes it ideal for subtly capturing boundless moments whilst on the move. Leveraging an exceptional sensor, similar to the one seen in the EOS 80D, and with capabilities to shoot in an ISO range of 100 to 25,600, it can flexibly capture quality images in a range of conditions. From high contrast scenes, such as indoor environments where detail, clarity and low image noise are critical, to low contrast scenarios, such as a foggy day, the PowerShot G1 X Mark III can always deliver a superb image. The DIGIC 7 processor provides premium image quality straight from the camera, with a reduced need to edit thanks to Auto Lighting Optimiser and Diffraction Correction, which featured in the EOS-1D X Mark II.

Whether you’re shooting portraits or macro close-ups, the built-in 3x zoom lens boasts a versatile 24 – 72 mm (35 mm equiv.) focal range and a close-focusing distance of just 10 cm, so you can cover an impressive range of photography genres with a single lens. A shallow depth of field is created via the APS-C sensor combined with a large f/2.8 – 5.6 aperture. The PowerShot G1 X Mark III’s lens has been meticulously designed for the sensor in the camera and as such, can reduce potentially unwanted image artefacts that can ruin shots, such as glare. The lens’ 9-bladed aperture can also render pleasing background blur and circular ‘bokeh’, minimising busy backgrounds and adding impact to your subject.

With the first inclusion of Dual Pixel CMOS AF in a Canon compact camera, you can focus rapidly on impromptu moments. The 4-stop Image Stabilisation (IS) adapts and steadies the camera in any active shooting environment, such as a carnival or in the crowd at a music festival, and provides additional confidence when shooting in low light. The Dual Pixel CMOS AF delivers precise and rapid focus in just 0.09 seconds, giving the level of responsiveness, speed and confidence needed for capturing a spontaneous shot at a moment’s notice.

Beautiful handling and stable shooting
The PowerShot G1 X Mark III boasts EOS handling in the compact body of a PowerShot model. This camera not only feels good to use, but its features enable a familiar DSLR level of instinctiveness and control, alongside the ability to customise it for your own use. The PowerShot G1 X Mark III comprises a central, built-in Electronic Viewfinder (EVF), which has been optimised to deliver a high-resolution view via a 2.36 million dot Organic EL display. Whether an action shot or a family portrait, with Touch and Drag Auto Focus (AF) you can take control of the shot by intuitively setting an AF point, providing you with the ultimate confidence to comfortably capture a sharp image.

Compact and lightweight, at just 399 grams, the PowerShot G1 X Mark III is 14.8 mm thinner and approximately 16 per cent smaller than the G1X Mark II, which is superb for saving space in your luggage whilst travelling, or as a tiny addition to your kit bag. Those familiar with Canon’s EOS cameras will love the PowerShot G1 X Mark III’s operation and control features. From the Lens Control Ring through to the shutter release, Canon users will feel comfortable and at ease using this camera.

For the more adventurous photographer, the PowerShot G1 X Mark III features weather sealing for durable performance in challenging conditions[i] and as an increased level of protection against dust and moisture. It is Canon’s only digital camera with an APS-C sensor that can be twinned with an optional waterproof casing[ii], to enable the PowerShot G1 X Mark III to be used underwater up to a depth of 40 m (130 feet) – great for creative deep water photography projects.

Expanded creative options, advanced connectivity
The PowerShot G1 X Mark III supports the hassle-free capture of Full HD 60p movies in MP4 with smooth, stable filming underpinned by 5-axis Advanced Dynamic IS and Dual Pixel CMOS AF. Dynamic IS corrects and steadies video footage when shooting on the move, whilst Dual Pixel CMOS AF enables the creation of cinematic ‘focus pulls’. While featuring the familiar time-lapse movie function, for the first time in a Canon compact camera the PowerShot G1 X Mark III also includes a panoramic mode. With the simple push of a button, and horizontal or vertical movement of the camera, you can effortlessly capture amazing, high-quality panoramic images with the greatest detail.

You can enjoy extended shooting time, thanks to the PowerShot G1 X Mark III’s Eco Mode, which enables the battery to last up to 25 per cent longer. Alternatively, you can conveniently recharge the camera on the go through the USB port’s smartphone charger or USB compatible battery packs.

The PowerShot G1 X Mark III is packed with a range of connectivity features, such as Wi-Fi and Dynamic NFC, to easily connect with compatible smart devices through a single tap. The camera can even be woken from standby remotely through a Bluetooth enabled smartphone, which acts as a low-powered Bluetooth remote. Full manual control, via Wi-Fi, offers a live preview of an image on your smart device, which is perfect for monitoring and capturing wildlife, without disruption, in their natural habitat.

Pricing and availability
The PowerShot G1 X Mark III will be available from November 2017 with an SRP of £1149/€1399.

More info at DPR

13th Canon PowerShot G1X Mark3Still looking for a compact? The G1 X mk3 is due next week [DCI]

  • APS-C CMOS sensor (22.3 x 14.9 mm)
  • Dual pixel CMOS AF | 24MP
  • Lens: 24-72mm f/2.8 – 5.6
  • DIGIC 7 | Video: Full HD 60p
  • ~9 fps, servo AF ~7 fps
  • ISO speed: 100-25,600
  • Min. focus (from lens tip): 10 cm (W), 30 cm (T)
  • EVF: 0.39 type 2.36 million dots
  • LCD screen: 3.0″ 1.04 million dot touch panel vari-angle
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC installed
  • Battery: NB-13L
  • SD / SDHC / SDXC card
  • Size: 115.0 x 77.9 x 51.4 mm
  • Weight: 375 g (body only), 399 g (incl. battery and SD card)
  • Price: $1,299

12th There’s been a lot of speculation about just what Nikon might do with respect to any new mirrorless offerings. Some of their options are discussed by Thom Hogan [TH] along with an analysis rather more competent and informed than many of the single purpose fan/’rumorz’ sites.

He suggests that there are effectively four mirrorless options being fought over at Nikon:

  • New DX with new mirrorless mount: This is the Canon M5 chaser. 
  • New DX with current F mount: This is the D3500.
  • New FX with new mirrorless mount: This is the Sony A7 chaser.
  • New FX with current F mount: This is the anticipation of a Canon entry, and the D610 potential replacement.

Much as with Canon and the ‘M’ series, lenses will be key.

4th If you were going to make a full frame mirrorless camera with shorter back focus distance than supported by the EF lens mount, then you would change a number of aspects of its sensor design compared to the 5D4/6D2. There have been plenty of interesting Canon micro-lens patents over the last year [Main rumour page]

Even if the ‘FF Mirrorless’ from Canon next year [CR] is EF mount, then a new sensor is hardly surprising, given it’s likely appearing at least 15 months after the 6D2.

Personal view: I guess this more than anything reflects the absolute dearth of actual camera rumours over recent years. We just don’t see the sorts of stuff we used to get, well not until that point a few weeks ahead of a launch where the ‘quality’ of rumours takes a distinctly different feel. I hope people still find my rumour notes on this of interest – just remember that my main efforts on this site are with the articles and reviews ;-)


25th Some general background [CR], suggesting Canon will eventually be bringing a full frame ‘M’ camera to the market, but no info as to when or what.

Hardly a surprise – my curiosity is just how adventurous and forward looking a product it will be. How much looking forward and how much looking back at ‘this is what a camera does’?

19th See the comments [TH] about the ‘Nikon mirrorless FF’ news of late…

17th Good old Zenit(h) – not content with making my first SLR back in the 1970’s they mentioned a full frame mirrorless for 2018.

Info from Russia [PP] suggests that it may well have quite a bit of input from Leica especially for the electronics.

16th In a Nikon (?) interview, the mirrorless future will might be full frame [NR]

‘On Nikon future mirrorless and retro style of Olympus, Fuji and modern style of Sony, suggestion of combing retro and modern style: full frame is the trend. If Nikon will go mirrorless it must be full frame’

15th Nikon setting out its mirrorless stall?

Japanese patents for a 24/1.8 for full frame and APS-C sensors [details on lens page]

August 29th Canon announce the M100 – See full specs on the EOS M100 info page

UK press info

United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, 29th August 2017 – Canon has today launched EOS M100. This small, stylish and connected EOS mirrorless camera promises incredible image quality.

Ideal for having on you all the time, EOS M100’s compact and stylish design allows you to spontaneously capture those everyday moments and lifelong stories. The camera’s array of creative filters and wireless connectivity allows you to shoot stunning images and upload straight to social media in just a few seconds.

Unleash your creative vision

EOS M100 is the camera to choose to help you release your creative vision and take your photography to the next level. Learning to use your new camera is easy thanks to EOS M100’s intuitive touchscreen and creative filters, so switching between your smartphone and the camera is effortless. Mastering the camera’s settings is made simple with on-screen explanations so whether you want to blur the background or brighten your subject, EOS M100 will give you the capability to create professional-looking images you’ll keep forever.

If you’re vlogging or taking a selfie at a must-share location, EOS M100’s handy flip-up screen and selfie mode are ideal to get it right first time. The Smooth Skin mode can also be applied in five different levels for an enhanced glow to give your photos that perfect finish whether in selfie mode or taking a snap of your friends.

m100 flash

High quality, small design

For such a compact camera, you’ll benefit from the latest technology typically expected of high-end professional cameras. The camera starts up in the blink of an eye so you’ll be ready to shoot passing moments as soon as they capture your attention. With EOS M100 you never have to compromise on image quality. Whether shooting in low light, or in the brightest sun, the camera will take crisp, vivid photos that outshine anything you have achieved before. Capturing photos and movies with pin-point precision is never a challenge, with even moving images retaining clarity.

Easy to use

The simple on-screen instructions help you master the range of shooting modes and settings to skilfully bring to life the world around you in your photography. The camera’s intuitive touchscreen with controls just like your smartphone makes it even easier to use. You can swipe through your images and even zoom in and out in playback mode with a simple pinching action.

Match your camera to your style

Available in black, white and grey with a choice of nine jacket colours you can design your camera to your personal taste. Whether you prefer a sleek black look or vibrant turquoise, you can mix and match the jackets to give your camera an edge. Attach a strap so you can pop it on your shoulder or round your neck for convenient and safer use when shooting out and about. The whole design is yours for the making with a range of jackets and straps to choose from.

Stay connected

Uploading your images to Instagram and Facebook is a seamless experience with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity. When connected, you can transfer your images directly to your phone using the Canon Camera Connect app on iOS and Android devices[1] without even needing to touch your camera. The handy connection means you can easily back up all your photos and movies on the Cloud, if required, once you are set-up with Wi-Fi; so you never need to worry about losing your best memories.

Compatibility for all your needs

With EOS M100 you can choose your lens depending on your shooting aspirations. Whether capturing landscapes or portrait images, you can change your camera’s lens to suit your needs. Just like the camera, the dedicated lenses in the EOS M range are small and lightweight meaning you won’t be held back on your next adventure. For even more choice, you can access the entire range of EF and EF-S lenses using a mount adaptor[2] allowing you to easily swap lenses when stepping up your photography.

The fashionable, quality camera allows you to capture the world in stunning new ways. Taking your everyday photography to new heights, EOS M100’s creative filters and high quality image capture mean every shot is worthy of a place on your Instagram feed. EOS M100 is the camera to capture lifelong memories in beautiful definition that can be treasured and shared with family and friends. Its compact, lightweight body makes it the ideal component to capture stories at every occasion.

Pricing and availability

The EOS M100 is available from October 2017 in the following kits:
EOS M100 Body Only – RSP £449.99/€569.99
EOS M100 + EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM – RSP £569.99/€699.99
EOS M100 + EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM and EF-M 22mm f/2 STM – RSP £699.99/€899.99
EOS M100 + EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM and EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM – RSP £769.99/€969.99

24th m100 frontM100 photos and specs appear.[nok]

  • Number of effective pixels: 24.2 million pixels
  • Dual pixel CMOS AF
  • Video engine: DIGIC 7
  • ISO sensitivity: 100-25600
  • Continuous shooting performance: 6.1 frames / sec
  • Video: Full HD
  • Rear liquid crystal: 3.0 type tilt type touch panel monitor
  • Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed
  • Recording medium: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
  • Battery: LP-E 12
  • Size: 108.2 × 67.1 × 35.1 mm
  • Weight: 302 g

m100 rear

16th The next entry level EOS-M is said to be the M100 [Nok]

Are we seeing signs of a Canon ‘M’ naming scheme, as with EOS cameras? I’m reminded of the somewhat haphazard naming early in the EOS film camera days, or the initial Canon PRO printers (in order of capability low > high) 10010 | 1 | 1000 | 2000 [links to reviews]
The PRO-1 is likely to be replaced before long – MK2 anyone?

11th An interesting Japanese patent from Nikon [HLS] shows an adapter for lenses on a mirrorless camera. The difference is that it contains a pellicle mirror to enable use of a dedicated phase AF detector.

af adapter

Why a dedicated AF detector? It can be optimised to work with older lenses that were designed for SLR use.

pdaf sensor


1st A distant (Q4/18) mention of a high end Canon mirrorless [CR]

Just for idle speculation, here’s the current Canon timeline

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual


28th Patents [HL] for a more conventional (flat sensor) mirrorless lens design from Nikon [lens page] and a new multifunction hot-shoe adapter.

Nikon hot shoe

20th Are we going to see a full-frame mirrorless camera from Nikon with a curved sensor?

A Japanese Nikon patent (2017-125904) for a 35mm lens (f/2 –  half angle 35 degrees) with curved sensor appears (full frame 21mm image height) also shows a basic camera (it’s a patent so don’t expect detailed renderings…)

nikon curved sensor 35mm

35mm gives a slightly wider FOV with the curved sensor (two possible lens designs on the Lens info page)

So does this represent the next big thing from Nikon?

Is it interchangeable lens? – if so then is an adapter to standard Nikon F lenses practical?

Is it a fixed lens camera a sort of ‘DL mk2’ (the DL line was cancelled before release, back in February)

14th The possible M20 gets a mention in product certification info [main rumour page] – that and a few more likely kit zoom lens versions

12th After some suitably vague ‘news’ (always a problem with on-line translations from Japanese) Nikon clarify things (a little) over their mirrorless plans [DPR]

“While details are confidential, we can say that we are currently developing new mirrorless products that build upon Nikon’s strengths, and offer the performance prospective customers expect, including the ultimate optics performance, image-processing technologies, strength and durability, and operation.”

10th The Leica TL2 is officially announced [Leica] I note the $1950 body is compatible with the $575 EVF

Someone at DPR was allowed to play with one… enough to bring out the trolls and fanboyz in the comments ;-)
Spend your money how you like, but stuff like this is a bit of a mystery to me… ;-)

8th Nikon and mirrorless and a Google translated interview from Japan [NR]

“…With generations grew up on smart phones I will give out a “Nikonashii” mirrorless camera that made a difference to other companies in terms of performance. I want to overwhelm the performance of the lens by making use of industrial lens technology, but also need playfulness”

Make of it what you will ;-)

This is said to be the 24MP Leica TL 2 [Nok]

leica TL 2 back

No, me neither… I had to look up the TL, which it seems was only launched in November 2016 [DPR]

leica TL 2

So, what will you get for your £2000? [LR]

  • Very similar to the T and TL design
  • No EVF
  • 24MP sensor
  • No flash
  • Max ISO: 50,000
  • 4K video
  • New customisable interface with more selections and options
  • The edges of the body are now smoother compared to the T and TL: the CNC machining of the camera is slightly modified from the T/TL as the edges are chamfered to reduce the “normal-angle” sharp edging of the previous models (this chamfering stops about half an inch short of the hot-shoe from both sides)
  • The official announcement will be on or around July 10th
  • The Leica TL2 will use the same Visoflex as the M10

Ah well, the whole ‘Leica thing’ remains a mystery to me – it seems to have very little to do with taking photos for a fair proportion of people who buy them … says the man using his 2010 MacBook Pro, hewn from a block of solid metal or some such ;-)

6th So, the 6D2 and 200D are announced, but no mirrorless update (yet) – That’s still expected this summer.

The 6D mk2 makes me wonder what Canon’s full frame offering will look like by the time the 6D2 reaches  ‘replacement age’ (3-4 years). A Canon full-frame mirrorless in 2018 would seem likely, given Sony’s efforts in the area and the increasing ease of using Canon EF lenses on Sony mirrorless.

I’ve set up a 6D mk3 rumour page – it’s the first for a while where I wonder if it’s a replacement that will ever get made?


3rd As some of the mirrorless fan sites fall over themselves to make something of a rise in sales numbers, I’m pleased to see Thom Hogan displaying a bit more statistical literacy and pointing to a fairly flat market [TH]

When are Canon stepping up in this market?  Does the timeline give any clues?

The 6D mk2 and 100D replacement are likely within a month or two, along with an M10 update. The September/October slot is open, but more likely is what’s coming next January/February.

Looking at gaps, what current DSLR slot could be supplemented with a new mirrorless version? – the 7D2 performance slot would need quite a bump in some areas over the M5.

This brings me back to how Canon deals with the related issues of its massive EF lens user base, and whether the EF-M mount can support full frame.

Looking at the mount end of a range of EF lenses makes me doubt they would all work with a bigger sensor in an EF-M mount camera (via an adapter of course).

It’s been suggested (thanks David) that a full frame version of the EF-M mount might just use a modification to the mounting bayonet, much as between EF and EF-S, so you could only mount crop sensor EF-M lenses on a crop sensor EF-M body, but full frame EF-M lenses would work on any EF-M body.

Using the EF mount itself loses the size advantage of the short (18mm EF-M) flange distance, but having used a 100D, I wonder just how small you want to make a higher end camera.

The 100D is EF-S but the same flange distance [44mm] as EF  see my notes on the EF mounts at

Personally I’d like to see Canon be bold and go for a high end mirrorless full frame EF mount camera – maybe competition from Sony will push them to consider a bigger leap, or maybe the continuing decline in DSLR sales. That said, I’m afraid it just isn’t behaviour I expect from Canon  :-(

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual


26th A new mirrorless (M10 replacement?) appears via certification info [Nok]

PC2276 Mirror-less camera
Made in Japan
SKU: 2209C002AA, 2209C012AA, 2209C022AA, 2209C032AA, 2210C002AA, 2210C012AA, 2210C022AA, 2210C032AA, 2211C002AA, 2211C012AA, 2211C022AA, 2211C032AA
Body color 3 colors. Only body and three lens kits?
Wi-Fi · Bluetooth installed

17th The EOS M6 is reviewed at DPR

No solid info regarding a full frame mirrorless from either Canon or Nikon, but lots of people ‘are expecting them’ – speculation abounds [CR]

As you’d expect, what are measured speculations on CR rise to near certainty on some other sites, along with the usual schoolyard style ‘We said it here first’ comments :-)


3rd Adapters sound a great idea for using assorted lenses with mirrorless cameras of different makes, but it’s a tricky area to get right. There is an excellent article based on real world testing at Lens Rentals [LR]. I’d note their numerous warnings about not using some combinations on a paying job if you want reliability.

1st DxOMark scores for the M5 show an improvement over the M3 in their evaluation of the M5 Sensor [DxOMark]


15th The EOS M6 is announced – full details on our M6 info page.

9th Specs for the M6 appear, showing it to be similar to the M5 [Nok-xlt]

  • 24.2 MP
  • DIGIC 7
  • 49 AF points
  • 7 FPS (AF fixed: 9 FPS)
  • ISO 100 to 25600
  • Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30, Flash sync 1/200
  • Video: Full HD, HD, VGA
  • LCD: 3 inch type tilt type touch panel
  • Size: 112.0 × 68.0 × 44.5 mm
  • Recording medium: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
  • Built-in Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
  • Colour: Black / Silver
  • Kit: Body – EF – M 15 – 45 mm kit – EF – M 18 – 150 mm kit (Double zoom and others are also sold in some countries)

8th Photos of the new M6 appear, along with the new EVF (both in black and silver) [Nok-xlt]

eos m6 black

eos m6 silver/black

The EVF design harks back to the external viewfinders popular for rangefinder cameras when you used a non standard lens.

Canon evf dc2


3rd The M6 is due soon [Nok – xlt]

As with most rumours, it’s that change in detail that suggests a product is genuinely near – Much of the more vague stuff I see is 80% guesswork, and that’s being generous ;-)

Colour: Black / Silver
Body only |15-45 mm lens kit | 18-150 mm lens kit | Dual zoom lens kit
SKU: 1724C001 (Black), 1725C001 (Silver)
The 3 digit end number varies with the country of sale and kit.

Colour: Black / Silver
SKU: 1727C001 (black), 1882C001 (silver)

January 2017

31st It looks as if a new external viewfinder (EVF-DC2) for EOS-M cameras will appear next month [Nok], available in black/silver.

30th An interesting interview [IF] with Leica, covering the M10 branding (loss of the Typ number), lack of video (customer demand) and many technical aspects.

18th Leica M10 details surface [Nok -xlt]

Leica M10

Specs (translated)

  • 24 MP FF CMOS sensor specially developed for M10
  • The latest generation image processor “LEICA MAESTRO II”
  • ISO sensitivity range of ISO 100 ~ 50,000
  • 2 GB internal memory
  • High-speed continuous shooting of up to 5 fps
  • ISO click dial on top cover
  • The depth of the top cover is only 33.75 mm and is the slimmest form among the M type digital cameras so far
  • In addition to raising the field of vision by 30% and raising the finder magnification to x0.73, the eye relief also expanded by 50%
  • The operation part on the back of the camera has only three buttons: a joystick and “play”, “live view”, “menu”
  • Adopted “My Camera Menu” that allows you to register menu items freely from the main menu
  • Built-in Wi-Fi function
    • Direct transmission of RAW files in DNG format
    • It is possible to operate the Leica M10 remotely
  • Electronic viewfinder “Leica Bizofurex” compatible
  • Size: 139 × 80 × 38.5 mm
  • Weight: 660 g (including battery)
  • Colour: Black Chrome, Silver Chrome
  • Japanese reservation start date: January 19
  • Japanese release date: February
  • Mass retailer price: 918,000 yen (tax included)

Photos and specs for the Fuji X-T20, X100F cameras and Fujinon XF 50mm f/2 R WR lens appear [PR]

Panasonic want to be able to offer 8k video from an MFT camera by 2020 [43]

The Japanese BCN camera sales figures for 2016 were released this week and one area Canon didn’t take the top spot was in mirrorless. Add to this the CIPA camera shipments showing a very small rise in cameras shipping for November (still down for the year) and many fan sites and forums were celebrating the arrival of a new economic golden age…

OK, perhaps not quite that much but for a more nuanced analysis see Thom Hogan’s notes [sm]

 12th Suggestions of a full frame Sigma SD Quattro, but not for a while yet… [DCI]

Lots of info seems to have leaked out about the upcoming Leica M10 [LR]
Should be official on the 18th.

2016 December

24th This year’s CP+ show (late Feb) should see a new addition to the EOS M range [CR]
A couple of lenses are also suggested as kit options: EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM, and the EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM and also that the EF-M 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM will be pensioned off.
The ‘6D2/mirrorless full frame’ noise of recent days is IMHO just the echo of wishful thinking on a few sites (see main rumour page ;-)

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual


15th The manual for the Canon EOS M5 is available from Canon USA. [Download].


26th Some product codes registered for WiFi/bluetooth suggest a mirrorless camera and a new EVF unit, along with at least two DSLR codes – main rumour page
24th A long way off, but a mention of a Canon Full Frame mirrorless. [CR]

This feels a bit like the assorted EOS 3D and Canon Medium Format rumours you’ve seen over the years – maybe they’ll do it eventually, but not to hold your breath waiting. Of the three categories I’d suggest that this is more likely, just because of other developments in the rapidly shrinking camera market.


15th The M5 is announced with a new EF-M 18-150mm lens.
This looks much more a camera I’d be comfortable using – I’m keen to see just how good the EVF is. In some ways it’s a cut down 80D, at about the size of the 100D.
More camera info on the EOS M5 page.

14th More detailed specs of the M5 look good – is this effectively the replacement for the 100D?

Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2MP (total 25.8MP) APS-C CMOS
Dual pixel AF CMOS
ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
Shutter speed: 1/4000 – 30s
Flash sync max 1/200
Continuous shooting: ~9 fps , 7 fps with AF tracking
Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
EVF: 2.36 million dot
LCD Screen: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD
Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11B / G / N), Bluetooth (4.1)
Battery: LP-E17
Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)
Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6mm
Weight: ~380g (body only), 427g (battery + SD card)

Some points compared to the 100D

Feature EOS M5 EOS 100D
Mount EF-M EF-S
MP 24.2MP 18.0MP
Shutter 1/4000 to 30s 1/4000 to 30s
Battery LP-E17 LP-E12
Size (mm) 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 117 x 91 x 69
Weight 427g 407g

13th Photos of the new EF-M18-150 IS STM lens [Nok]
12th Suggestions of prices for the M5 and even of a ‘pre-order discount’ [CR]
9th I go away on holiday, and pictures of the M5 appear… [CR]

Sensor: 24.2 MP APS-C CMOS
AF: dual pixel CMOS AF | Touch AF | More AF points than any other camera
DIGIC 7 | Continuous shooting: 7fps | Continuous shooting in live view: 9fps
ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
Video: FullHD 60fps, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
Dynamic NFC, Bluetooth built-in | Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
Size: 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 mm | Weight: 427g

1st An M5 is expected soon (15th?). Some specs [CR]

24.2mp (80D style) | Built-in electronic viewfinde (EVF)
New AF system | more classical camera design, more in line with Fuji or Olympus
EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM

The EVF is welcome for people like myself who can no longer clearly read a rear screen and certainly not use it for composition if their glasses are not at hand :-)
I never much cared for phone cameras, but now, using one is even more of a nuisance…


28th Two Canon mirrorless cameras are mentioned in certification notes fro Russia, along with a DSLR
Full list on the main rumours page
22nd A hint of a follow up to the M3 for later this year/early next [CR]
A look at the timeline suggests we might see an appearance of Digic 7 (first seen in the G7X mk2 announced in Feb)

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 2018 2019 2020 2021
            1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Best Full       1Ds 1Ds II 1Ds III 1D X 1DX II 1DX III
1.3     1D 1D II 1D IIn 1D III 1D IV                    
vid.                             1D C          
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D II 5D III 5D IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II        
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
Kiss N
Kiss X
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
EOS R Full                               R5
                              EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M 1.6                               M5
                              M50 M50 II
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

Note: dates start in announcement quarter, not shipping dates. Video capable 4k 8k

Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual | Digic 6 dual | Digic 7 dual | Digic 8 dual | Digic X dual

17th No sign of any mirrorless offerings in the list of Canon announcements for Photokina (main rumours page)

Has Nikon given up on the ‘1 series’? [NR]


6th A new Canon 16-50 f3.5-5.6 APS-C mirrorless lens patent appears [EG-xlt]

Expect many new mirrorless cameras to be delayed by the ongoing difficulties in sensor production in Japan, after the earthquake. Camera shipments are already down [TH]


22nd Olympus patent a 28mm/1.4 mirrorless lens for a full frame sensor – see details on the Lens info page
The Hasselblad X1D mirrorless is announced – full details on the Medium Format page
18th Moving up in size… Hasselblad are announcing a ‘mirrorless’ camera using the Sony 50MP sensor next week, on the 22nd. The new camera will supposedly be compatible with existing Hasselblad medium format lenses. No real info other than a small detail of a shot of the camera. [PR] [MT]

Hopefully marking the end of the ‘Hasselbling’ era ;-)


31st There are more suggestions that Nikon is getting serious about moving into the mirrorless market with a new unknown camera showing up in an Indonesian technical registry (typically a few months at most from announcement) [NR]

If Nikon do bring out something full-frame, you can bet that something from Canon won’t be too far behind. I suspect we’ll see a much more advanced EOS-M for Photokina, but think anything full frame is more likely a 2017 product.
We don’t know how big an image circle EF-M mount lenses can manage, so full frame mirrorless might be awaiting some other technical changes.

11th The 28mm macro is official [Lens page]
10th The 28mm will include hybrid AF and a light… [Lens page]
6th A new EF-M 28mm f3.5 IS STM Macro is due in the next month or so [Lens page]


25th A Canon patent covering pixel microlens design [main rumour page] doesn’t make much difference for normal EF mount DSLRs, but would be distinctly more useful for full frame mirrorless designs.
12th Two mirrorless cameras from Canon this year? [CR]

Looking at the timeline, the M4 looks fairly likely (a variant of the improved 80D sensor is now available), whilst it could also be time for the ’24MP FF’ sensor suggested at CR.
EF-M lenses have a short flange distance and don’t currently cover a full frame image circle. Use of EF lenses would suggest a potentially whole new design. 
How about a new row in the timeline for ‘pro FF mirrorless’?


25th Olympus add a 3rd full frame mirrorless lens to their recent patents [EG-Goog xlt] 24mm f/1.4

Will I eventually get my digital OM-2? ;-)

12th What’s Canon announcing in the mirrorless/premium compact line this year?
There is a suggestion[CR] that at least one offering will have 4k video.

The Canon timeline for EOS interchangeable lens cameras is good for showing trends, so an M4 (24MP and improved AF) would seem an obvious guess this year – who knows? it might even be available in the US right from launch. 
The only indirect comments I’ve had this year about this were that Canon was not keen to introduce ‘mount confusion’ into the M series with any FF entries, and that the EF lens systems was not for further splitting.
That said, I’ve had no solid info on Canon’s mirrorless range for several months now.
As an aside, I’d note that I’m more inclined to take notice of what Craig says on CR than some of the annonymously run Canon clickbait rumour sites – if you have to hide behind annonymity…


3rd Sony launch a new mirrorless APS-C camera, the a6300 [DPR]

24MP CMOS APS-C sensor with copper wiring
425-point on-sensor phase-detection AF system
11 fps continuous shooting (8fps continuous live view)
Silent shooting
Max ISO of 51200
4K video capture up to 100 Mbps

2nd Has Canon seen the mirrorless market and decided to own it? [ASC via Google xlt]

A chance of some high spec mirrorless cameras and lenses too?

2016 January

27th Fixed lens full frame compact from Canon? [CR]
24th Something ‘different’ in the mirrorless line on its way from Canon? [CR]
22nd Another ‘full size’ patent from Olympus – this time for a 35/1.4 [EG – Google xlt]
16th Could be something lost intranslation, but a patent for a ‘full size’ 28mm f/2 lens appears from Olympus.
Could we yet see a ‘mirrorless’ 35mm full frame OM camera… [EG – Google xlt]

My last film cameras were Olympus OM2/4 and I still use my Zuiko 50/1.2

14th Might we see a more advanced EOS-M model at CP+ [CR]
4th There are some expectations that Sony’s next major mirrorless release will incorporate a 36MP sensor [mR]

2015 December

7th Now it’s Nikon’s turn to pour cold water on the ‘Nikon buys Samsung camera biz’ notion [NR]
3rd There seems to be a rumour going round (thanks to everyone sending it in) that Nikon have bought up all of Samsung’s camera business.
It appeared via various forums and popup ‘rumor’ sites (the ones where the publishers won’t say who’s behind the site ;-) and grew as people looked to conflate assorted wishlists with Samsung deciding to get out of camera making, and a feeling that Nikon needed to do something, this is something, so Nikon must be doing it.
Have a read of a rather more respected rumour site’s views, with Nikonrumors’ 10 reasons it’s probably nonsense… [NR]

I note the NR comments about deliberate fake rumours being produced and suspect I’ve been ‘had’ as well. Certainly, my degree of skepticism of entirely new stuff from new sources has been ratcheted up a bit over the last month or so.

Update: Samsung in the UK says no… [AP]
2nd A patent for a mirrorless, full frame 19mm tilt/shift lens appears from Nikon (lenses page).

2015 November

19th New Leica M Typ 262 ‘entry level’ camera announced (~£4k) [B&H]

“Leica M (Typ 262): Focusing on the essentials of M rangefinder photography
19 November 2015
Leica Camera has introduced the Leica M (Typ 262) into its digital rangefinder camera range, joining the Leica M and M-P (Typ 240) and the Leica M Monochrom (Typ 246), now giving photographers the choice of four models.
Incorporating rangefinder technology perfected over many decades, the new M (Typ 262) represents Leica M photography in its purest form, concentrating on the most essential features, combined with intuitive handling and discreet styling. This allows users to focus on the fascination of M photography and, ultimately, on capturing the decisive moment.
As with the other digital M cameras, the Leica M (Typ 262) features a high-resolution CMOS full-frame sensor, designed exclusively for rangefinder photography, but excludes video recording and Live View. The 24-megapixel sensor delivers exceptional image quality and extreme sensitivity, and makes the Leica M (Typ 262) the ideal camera for photography in available light situations. At the same time, the camera’s Maestro processor guarantees fast processing of captured images, ensuring that it is immediately ready to shoot. …”
10th Not just Canon… There’s talk of a new super mirorless from Sony [SAR]

Thanks for all the feedback from yesterday’s stuff

It’s been interesting to see the EOS-M info repeated at ever increasing levels of certainty/rebuttal around the web ;-) It falls well outside of my normal 6 month plausability criteria, but beats hands down some of the assorted stuff we’ve received of late.

9th We’re told (thanks) that Canon is going to launch a ‘Pro’ level mirrorless next year. It won’t come until after the M3 gets an update and several new lenses have been launched.

The key features were:

Expanding the EF-M system
First ConnectedCamera device
New technology sensor (APS-C)
Built in EEVF viewfinder
Pro level AF performance
Best in class video capability
Pro build quality with enhanced ergonomics
Wider support for the EF lens family

The source claims this is from an internal (marketing) presentation and mentioned with other products for the ‘Photkina timeframe’ including the base full frame DSLR [6D mk2 ?], wider 4k video support and a new range of large format printers.

Well, if so, that’s an interesting mix.
It was emphasised to us that there were no specifications given and this was very much a preview.
Whilst there have been numerous ‘hints’ of a pro level mirrorless from Canon, this is the first time I’ve seen anything that expands on the idea.
A new source and a long way in the future, so I have to reach for the pinch of salt.
The only bit I’ve definitely heard of before relates to the chance of the old 17″ iPF5100 finally getting a major overhaul next year (NOT the pro-1000 BTW) where it would fit in with the next step in Canon large format x100 -> x300 -> x400 -> x?00

6th Two EF-M primes suggested for next year [CR] 15/2 and 35/1.8
4th Nikon patent another lens design for mirrorless (18-55 short back focus) [EG – Google xlt]

It would seem that after the astounding success of the Nikon-1 series, they are thinking of moving up to APS-C

2015 October

29th Two ‘better’ EF-M primes for next year? [CR]

Those would be for crop sensor EOS-M cameras, such as the long hinted ‘more pro’ version. 
I must admit that Canon’s mirrorless strategy (as we’ll call it) is still pretty opaque to me ;-)

Surely no coincidence that not long after Canon’s less than stellar finanacials and mention of mirrorless hitting their higher end camera sales, we get a Canon full frame mirrorless rumour for next year.
No details at all before you get too excited ;-) [CR]

My own suspicion is that delays are as much from Canon’s well known paranoia over ‘lesser’ cameras stepping on the toes of ‘better’ models.

13th M10 and other compacts launched [DPR]

12th The M10 appears at the US Canon shop
This from the info section:

EOS M10 kitLegendary Image Quality in the Palm of Your Hand
The EOS M10 camera features a lightweight, comfortably designed body that’s easy to hold and take with you. From overseas vacations to backyard family gatherings, the EOS M10’s compact size means it can easily be on hand, without getting in the way. A built-in thumb grip also lets you grasp the body securely, while the rounded edges make holding the camera easier when recording long video clips. All this while still featuring the image quality for which Canon EOS cameras are so well known.

Superb Detail With Minimal Noise
The 18.0 Megapixel CMOS sensor captures lots of detail with very little image noise. The sensor itself is APS-C type, which is the same size as the sensor found in Canon’s EOS Rebel series of cameras. The high resolution means you can crop the image to focus on one section, or have enough detail to print large photos to display or give to your family and friends. An ISO range of 100–12800 (expandable to 25600) lets you capture images on bright sunny beaches and darkened streets.
Fast Focus
Life happens fast, and there’s little worse than missing out on capturing that perfect moment because the camera was too slow to focus. The EOS M10 camera uses Canon’s Hybrid CMOS AF II autofocus system, which measures up to 49 different points in an image quickly and accurately to help get it in focus. In addition, face detection and object tracking help keep the subject of your photo focused, even if they move. What’s more, the EOS M10 is compatible with all EF-M lenses, which feature an AF+MF mode that lets you easily combine the speed of autofocus with the creative flourish possible with manual focus.
Get the Shot You Want, at Any Angle
It’s vital to see if you’ve composed the photo you want. The EOS M10 camera’s 3.0-inch touch screen has 1.04 million pixels, letting you preview images in high detail. It can pivot a full 180°, meaning you can capture a unique dog’s-eye-view of the world or flip the screen up to get that epic selfie.
Superb Moviemaking Made Easy
The EOS M10 camera can capture 1920×1080 Full HD video at frame rates of both 24p and 30p, and can record in MP4 format for easy sharing online.
Moviemaking Made Easy with Manual Movie Control
The EOS M10 camera is a fine moviemaking tool. With touch-activated AF and a number of manual controls available, it’s easy to make intuitive setting adjustments silently and on the fly using the EOS M10’s dials and touch operations.
8th Update: it’s an M10

Sensor: 18MP CMOS APS-C
LCD: 3″ 1.04 million dots
AF: Hybrid CMOS AF III w/facial recognition and tracking
Kit Lens: EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM
Two Lens Kit:EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM & EF-M 55-200 f/4-6.3 IS STM
Weight: ~300g

EF-M 15-45 f/3.5-6.3 IS STM lens is ~$300 on its own.

New EOS-MA new ‘entry level’ M series (M4?) is leaked [DCI] and likely an EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM lens to go with it.


27th The M3 is going to be available in the US.
Some links, if you’d like one… AdoramaB&H
21st Suggestions [CR] that an M4 and other ‘M’ items may be appearing in 2016. This time even by Canon in the US.
6th Canon CPN ‘making of’ arti-vert about G3X [Cpn]
5th Suggestions [CR] that the M3 may be officially ‘launched’ by Canon in the US.

2015 June

26th An EF/EF-S lens adapter for mirrorless appears in a patent (see lenses page)

I’m still not convinced that Canon really ‘gets it’ from a marketing POV, just how the world’s camera market is changing?

18th The 20MP Canon G3X, which was sort of announced a while ago, is finally launched.
Detailed specs / available for pre-order at Adorama.
There is a ‘hands-on’ and more info at DPR
13th Hasselblad bring on the Lusso – a re-styled 36MP A7r [PR]

Yay – more Hasselbling!

10th Sony announce [DPR] the A7R II with an interesting 42MP full frame back illuminated sensor and 5-axis IS. Oh, and 4k video too…


4th Is a new Sony on the way with a 56MP sensor? A Zeiss sample image makes you wonder [SLR]


15th An interesting practical review of using the M3 by Dan Berdal


11th A Canon interview [DPR] (from CP+) mentions mirrorless.

Q Why no M3 in the USA
A Not my fault, ask Canon USA

This seems to have stoked assorted Canon mirrorless rumours about more cameras – I note that none of them seem to have much substance (even for rumours ;-) as yet.


28th I was recently told (thanks) that after a query to Canon about the EOS M3, the response suggested that the noise/DR perfomance of the new 24MP sensor was on a par with the 18MP in the 700D and that video performance was not up to the level of the 7D mk2

27th A Canon patent for an EF-M 9-18mm F3.5-4.5 [EG – Google xlt]

13th Seems that if you want an M3 in Europe, there is only going to be the kit option (18-55) available. No other kits, no EVF, no EF adapter… [EM]

…so no hope of me wanting one.
Canon really is telling the rest of the world to ignore their mirrorless options for the time being.

7th I’ve set up a specific page for all EOS M3 information I find.
5th Some M3 specs (DCI, as earlier)

– 24.2MP CMOS sensor (22.3 x 14.9mm)
– AF is 49 points. Hybrid CMOS AF
– ISO100-12800
– Media SD / SDHC / SDXC (UHS-I compatible)
– DIGIC6 processor
– Wi-Fi
– Continuous shooting 4.2 frames / sec.
– 384 zone metering
– Battery LP-E17
– The shutter speed is 30 seconds -1/4000 seconds
– Video full HD
– Built-in flash
– LCD monitor tilting 3 inches 1.04 million dots. Touch panel
– GPS is not equipped
– EVF option (EVF-DC1)
– The body is stainless steel, magnesium alloy, polycarbonate
– The size 110.9 x 68.0 x 44.4mm
– Weight 366g

3rd eos m3 mirrorless camera (white)A photo of the M3 appears [DC – Google xlt]
1st More M3 suggestions? No specs yet [DC – Google xlt]


27th An M3 is quite likely to be announced later next week (see main rumour page) in time for CP+
3rd No signs of an EOS-M at PMA-CES yet. Next week may see an announcement, but new Powershot cameras are more likely [CR]

2014 December

10th A Canon patent for an EF-M 70-400 f4.5-7.2 appears [EG – Google xlt]
4th Assorted wishful mutterings about a full frame mirrorless camera and a rangefinder from Canon get a quite reasonable CR0 at CR ;-)

A version of that 70D sensor looks good for an EOS M model, but there are also the 700D and 100D updates waiting for it.


22nd We’re told that the next EOS-M will feature at PMA/CES in Vegas at the start of January. This could explain the mentions of December for an announcement, since the show runs from the 6th to the 9th.
17th An odd time for replacement?, but a new EOS M is suggested for December [CR]


10th An interesting Panasonic patent for a variable focal length optical viewfinder with hybrid features [43]
Nikon has the idea of adding a hot-shoe connector to the top of an external EVF [EG-Goog xlt]


24th Canon mirrorless not dead yet… Canon Photokina interview [DPR]

Mirrorless: “…We are serious. We are really focused on mirrorless and we’re spending lots of time, and devoting a lot of manpower to scaling up mirrorless development right now. ”

Actual products?
Expect a variant of the the 70D sensor to appear in an EOS-M before too long?

21st Photokina comes and goes – nothing for the EOS-M enthusiasts. A new mount is mentioned, although make of this Google translation what you will, but there certainly appears to be mentions of mirrorless too [DCW-Goog xlt]. There is also mention of more lenses for EF-M.
There was a G7X [PDF manual] – if you’re into such cameras, there is some good comparison info at [DPR]

Once again only designed for people who wear glasses all the time or not at all. 
Those of us who need reading glasses get no EVF – this is one reason that tablets are so great for photography if you are long sighted – you can hold them far enough away -and- see what’s in the frame ;-)


19th Long lenses for the EOS-M…
Canon announce an EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM lens for the EOS-M, and Tamron announce a 18-200mm F/3.5-6.3 Di III VC with EF-M mount. See lens rumours page for more details and specs.


27th The EOS M vanishes from Canon USA listings [CR]
24th A new Leica Monochrom 230 will be announced for Photokina. It will have WiFi, since its regulatory approval was noted in Korea. [LR]


24th Leica announce the T system [DPR]
23rd Tomorrow’s Canon announcement (see main rumour page) is suggested as just a new flash for the EOS-M series
Lots of Lytro PR spread around [ISWDPR]

The DPR ‘interview’ sounds like a pitch for photographers who want their images to ‘look different’ and ‘visually differentiate’ their work. Expect a lot of stuff that will ‘look different’ in exactly the same way. ;-)
Could this be another lensbaby, or another HDR? 
I’m sure there will be some very interesting results appearing, but given the speed that good ideas get copied, it’s going to take more than some fancy hardware/software if you want to differentuiate your work…
That said, it’s a development I welcome and can’t wait to see how it looks in a few years time
A video example shows lots of (young/attractive) people using it for focus pulls – no place for anyone over 30 in this world it would seem? ;-)

22nd Lytro move ‘pro’ with a new camera this summer ~2.5MP …just like 1999 ;-) [TH]
Will Sony be the first to bring a curved sensor to market?
Suggestions that the follow up to the RX1 (RX2?) will indeed have a curved sensor [SAR]
Not having a flat image plane allows for a lot of changes in lens formulae. If they can do it reliably, then it’s going to make for some interesting results.
14th We’re told that an ‘M3’ needs to be added to yesterday’s Q3 announcement list (on main rumours page) and that there will be two models available, one with much more thought for ‘prosumer’ buyers.

Presumably this will include something like the Electronic Viewfinder EVF-DC1 on the G1X II? 
At the moment, my ‘small camera’ is a 100D. I’ve realised that for the image quality I want, I’m going to have hefty lenses attached, so some of the size advantage is a little academic…

Meanwhile, pictures emerge of the solid metal body for the upcoming Leica T 701 (APS-C) [LR]

Leica T 701 main body unit

Leica T lenses will not have aperture rings and will be produced by Panasonic

Leica VARIO-ELMAR-T ASPH 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 zoom lens (27-84mm equivalent)
Leica SUMMICRON-T ASPH 23mm f/2 prime lens (35mm equivalent)

5th The Sony A7s is due tomorrow, 12MP sensor and 4k video [SAR]


31st Time to update the G16 to G17? [CR] – 24-200mm f/1.4-2.0 lens | New 1″ Sensor | DIGIC 6
24th The manual for the G1X mk2 is available for download [PDF]
Two Hasselbling Lunar cameras go under the auctioneers hammer for $54,000 …Unfortunately, the hammer missed, but at least the money was raised for charity. [HB]
19th Samsung have a go at the 1″ sensor market, with the NX mini, with 3 lenses [DPR]
17th Epson decide to stop making the R-D1x digital rangefinder camera.
The ‘x’ version was only ever a Japanese product, following on from the original 2004 R-D1
Strangely enough, it was a bit ahead of its time, with it’s retro design and styling not being out of place today with a better sensor and electronics. The price tag never helped though ;-)
See an early review [LL] or a site devoted to the camera [R-D1]

13th Nikon 1 series V3 announced [DPR] with an interesting ‘what am I missing here’ article also [DPR]
Only ~$1200 for a ‘starter kit’. For just another ~$1k you can have a 1 Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR lens (that’s 810 mm equivalent, given the 2.7x crop of the Nikon 1 cameras)
11th A7 & A7R reviews by Thom Hogan [SM]
7th Publicity from Leica over a new mirrorless system for April 24th [LR] German camera, but with some (power zoom) Panasonic devleoped lenses and Leica primes.
1st No M2 from us says Canon US.
There are often significant differences between parts of Canon and between reqions/countries, but rarely are they so obvious ;-)


28th Canon in Japan mention that they will be bringing the EOS-M2 to Europe and maybe the US.
An interview [IR] discusses this and the challenges of on chip AF
16th There is a Canon PDF about the development of the G1X mk2
13th Yesterday’s 7D successor specs come from a Panasonic PDF documment for the GH4 – only one mention of the 7D sucessor, but an awful lot about the GH4.

12th The G1X II is announced:

MELVILLE, N.Y., February 11, 2014 – Building upon the success of the PowerShot G1 X digital camera, Canon U.S.A. Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today unveiled its new flagship PowerShot G1 X Mark II, a digital camera designed to meet the evolving needs of today’s professional and advanced amateur photographers.
Boasting a sensor that is 4.5x larger than a 1/1.7” sensor found in professional level point-and-shoot cameras, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera can produce high-quality images with a wide dynamic range. It features a new type of 1.5-inch, 12.8 Megapixel High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor, made by Canon, allowing for optimum performance with an ISO range of 100-12800. This sensor, combined with the DIGIC 6 Image Processor, comprises the Canon HS SYSTEM resulting in faster autofocusing speeds over the PowerShot G1 X camera, allowing photographers to capture detailed, vivid images even in low-light conditions.
Featuring a newly-developed f/2.0 – f/3.9, 5x optical zoom lens (equivalent 24-120mm zoom range) with Dual Control Rings, this new camera provides customized zooming and focus-functionality similar to a DSLR camera. With this wide of an aperture, photographers have the ability to isolate their subjects by separating them from a background that is blurred. This gives more control and creative possibilities when using a PowerShot camera. The Dual Control Rings include a Step Ring to adjust various customizable settings and a Continuous Ring to make focusing adjustments during manual focus, as well as additional customizable settings for manual shooting. This new lens features a nine-blade aperture to provide beautiful, blurred backgrounds even at full-zoom range.

It seems that Canon has not been keen to show this camera much in advance, so there is a brief ‘We looked at one’ article at DPR
The EVF also appears:

An optional Electronic Viewfinder EVF-DC1 slots into the PowerShot G1 X Mark II’s accessory hotshoe to offer traditional handling and composition. XGA resolution with 2.36 million dots and a quick refresh rate make shooting natural and enjoyable. A proximity sensor detects when the viewfinder is raised to the eye and the EVF can be pivoted through 90 degrees for low-angle or waist-level shooting.

There is also a CPN article about the camera

11th Hands up – now it looks real ;-)

Full details leaked on the Bestbuy website [PR]

13.1 mp in 4:3 format
12.8 mp in 3:2 format
1.5″ CMOS Sensor
3fps with AF, 5fps with focus locked
24-120mm f/2-3.9
3″ tilting touch LCD
Two Control Rings
Wifi, NFC
Creative shot, Multi-scene IS
Optional Grip
Optional EVF
Price: $799 USD

Quite a few chnges from the G1X
g1x II camera
GiX II images at PR
10th More suggestions that the EVF below is real and will appear this week at CP+ and called the EVF-DC1
Sigma announce three versions of their DP2 Quatro.
In an interesting nod to the difficulties of the Foveon design, the pixels are stacked, but there are four blue pixels over each red and green one.
new sigma foveon design
Full press release info at DPR
9th Thanks for all the emails and suggestions about that image…
One of the less conspiratorial suggested that the viewfinder is ‘genuine’, but the camera not, and that it represents an internal ‘product concept’ mockup that’s been leaked.
Whatever it is, it’s been interesting to see the reactions over losing the optical VF of the current model.
At least CP+ is not too far away (opens on Thursday 13th)
8th Update – several people have suggested that this is actually genuine and that the edge of the zoom ring is just lost in shadow. I’m not inclined to agree, there is too much that doesn’t quite look right. 
We will see ;-)
An image of the upcoming G1X II is widely circulated. Specs are said to be: 24-120mm f/2 – 3.9 lens, DIGIC 6, priced around $700
fake G1X II
In the largest image we were sent (thanks) it’s noticeable that the camera body seems to show camera shake whilst the lens and OVF are pin sharp.
This one appears to be the same as the one sent to [CR] before they applied their watermark (checked with PS and there is no sign of the mark in the version we were sent). However, look further and I believe it’s a FAKE (note the abrupt end of the zoom ring).

Still, lots of sites seem to have rushed to accepting it without and there are lengthy discussions about Canon’s design ‘decisions’… Not sure about the fakery? Move your mouse over this image to see a steep curve applied, and look at the edge of the lens.

photoshopped version of g1x 2 image

And yes – I have been caught out by fakes in the past ;-)
If this image were real, then I’d welcome signs that we might see a decent size/quality EVF on an EOS-M some time.
Note that just because the image is ‘altered’ doesn’t mean that the camera specs are not possible?


15th What might we see for CP+? There is a suggestion that it won’t be a 7D2, but a “not professional” camera [CR] How about a Canon G2X/G1 X Mk2 ?
The G1 X was announced in January 2012 [See below]
Various new model specs have been appearing on forums, but seem to centre around a 20MP Digic 6 based camera with a longer range lens than the G1 X (28-112)
One such set of specs [XT – Goog xlt]
– G1X shape and size, the lens is slightly longer
– DIGIC 6 Image Processor
– 24 – 120mm F2.8 (wide angle) to F5.8 (telephoto) lens
– 20.2 million pixels 1.5″ CMOS sensor
– New optical zoom viewfinder
– 3.0″ LCD, ~922k pixel capacitive touch screen

13th For those of you not entirely convinced why the Hasselblad Lunar is widely regarded as a bit of a joke, have a read of the press release for the Hasselblad Lunar Limited Edition. Only 200 people will get the chance to show they really do have more money than sense…

“This is a unique opportunity for a very small number of discerning photographers who want high-spec shooting capability linked with matchless Italian craftsmanship in a point and shoot camera, to invest in a photo-capture icon.”

Read more of this marketing drivel at [HB] – Do those colours look familiar?
Hasselbling Loony, Special edition

2013 December

13th A new 40/0.85 is announced for mirrorless, inc. EOS-M – full details on lens page

9th Canon hints that it’s serious about EOS-M, with an interview from the top. [DCW via Google xlt]

– A new EOS M camera with built-in EVF could arrive in the second half of 2014 .
– The focus on EOS M systems is to keep size down
– Hybrid still+video performance is a key aspect on Canon’s future mirrorless cameras development
– There will be new lenses for the EOS M system
– Canon is also considering the possibility to make a more semi pro if not pro mirrorless cameras
– Canon is committed to the EOS Cinema line

OK, so there is likely to be a bit “stick with us, we’ve got some great stuff coming”, but it’s interesting to see Canon droping a few well planned hints, such as agreeing that next year will be a ‘year of the lens’ (2013 wasn’t) and referring to an ongoing refresh of the EF lens line.
If anyone can extract more meaning from the interview, and the famously elliptical answers that you get from senior Japanese management, then please do let me know?
3rd The EOS-M2 appears via Canon China and Canon Japan
Due for mid-December release in Japan. No UK/US news AFAIK

>> Full specs on EOS M, M2 page

eos m2
2nd Expect black and white versions of the EOS-M2 – specs [DCI – Goog xlt] Main change seems to be the AF which is as per the 100D (not yet dual pixel).

AF speed is 2-3 times faster than EOS-M
Servo AF for Video
4.6 fps
ISO 12800 (ISO 25600 top)
8% reduction of body size (volume)
Wi-Fi, remote control with phone, iMAGE GATAWAY for image xfer

Split pixels AF needs to appear more widely before it moves down to EOS-M. It makes for a simple update for a more advanced ‘M’ with 21MP split pixel AF some time next year, to start to fill out the EOS-M range.

2013 November

13th The EOS-M2 seems to have been delayed. Early next year is the most common suggestion we’ve had. There are some shows early on in 2014 (CES in Vegas and CP+ in Japan), so maybe then?
We’re told (thanks) that several of the new lenses due next year are EF-M
1st But wait, there’s more…
Hasselblad release three new ‘Stellar Special Edition’ compact cameras. [HB]

“The latest Stellar models offer photographers the choice of three new camera body colours: black, white and orange – and ship with bespoke camera cases in black or white leather with signature stitching and shoulder and wrist straps.”

A bargain at around £2200 – sales to nudge double digits? 
Has anyone ever seen anyone with a Lunar/Stellar? 


25th More patents from Canon [EG-xlt] 35mm F1.4 , 50mm F1.4 , 50mm F1.8 (Macro APS-C) – looks like EOS-M lens designs.
Another patent adds an accessory shoe to a mount adapter. Examples include a flash mount and external grip.

21st The rumour that was a full frame mirrorless, but maybe not mirrorless, becomes a digital version of an old film camera (FM2) from Nikon [NR] – moved to main Nikon page

Interesting, but the idea does seem to be influenced by some of the headless chickem behaviour induced by the new Sony ;-) Have a read of some of Thom Hogan’s thoughts, for a counter to some of the less well informed hype… [TH]

17th A nice small camera from Panasonic, the GM1 DPR

16th In a widely leaked move, sure to cause a lot of chatter on the forums, Sony announce two full frame mirrorless cameras.
There’s a short hands-on look at DPR

24.3 MP FF CMOS sensor with OLPF [A7]
36.3 MP FF CMOS sensor with no OLPF [A7R]
E-mount with support for FE, E, and A-mount lenses (with adapter)
Bionz X image processor
Hybrid AF with 25 contrast-detect and 117 phase-detect points [A7 only]
Weather sealed magnesium alloy body
3-inch tilting LCD with 1.23 million dots
XGA (2.4 million dot) electronic viewfinder
Full HD video recording at 1080/60p and 24p; uncompressed HDMI out
Wi-Fi with NFC capability and downloadable apps

A range of adapters should provide support for a lot of old manual lenses.
Is there a market for such cameras? If it does sell well, then expect some more manufacturers to look for their own moves into the ‘Leica-like’ market.
s120 and g16 CanoBling camerasMeanwhile it seems that someone from Canon has been eyeing the Hasselbling range, since Canon are going to be offering ‘limited edition’ G16 and S120 cameras [AH]
Not the full ‘CanoBling’, but obviously someone from Canon marketing has decided that it’s time to pursue more customers with a bit too much cash.

2013 September

21st An EOS M2 is noticed in the listing of supported cameras in the latest version of DPP – no specs
19th Weather/waterproof Nikon 1 camera and 2 lenses announced [DPR]
18th Rumours of EOS-M updates continue, but no detaled specs as yet.
A ruggedised N1 is expected this week [NR]

3rd Two new EOS-M cameras to come? [CR] One a cheaper version of the current model and one the long predicted move ‘up-market’ including perhaps an EVF
No news on the Canon focal reducer we’ve heard of in the past… (see Jul 7th below)
1st Interesting suggestion of a camera to come from Sony, with a moveable sensor [SAR]
The curious angle is that it could support Canon and Nikon lenses…


27th Sony announces a new A3000 – E Mount and 20MP. but with OVF and ‘SLR styling’ – thoughts about it at DPR
22nd A flurry of camera updates from Canon – new G16 and S120 – details of all at DPR
20th Several suggestions [CR] that whilst we will see another EOS-M, there seems to be no rush (‘at least one by Christmas’)


20th After the ripping success of the Mk.1 Hasselbling (the ‘Lunar’), pictures of the Mk.2 appear
The $1600-$3200 ‘Stellar’ is based on a $650 Sony RX100. It comes with a range of at least six different exotic wood grips (hence the price variations). Launch due later this week…
Hasselbling Stellar
More at [PR]
18th After the recent sale prices on the EOS-M, it seems that some outlets are describing it as ‘discontinued’.
11th For some reason, Canon in the US say that the EF-M 11-22 will not be marketed in the US [Canon US forum]
7th The EOS-M has been widely up for sale at $299 of late. Several places are showing as out of stock, which if nothing else suggests that Canon’s firesale has worked to clear stocks.
We’re told (thanks) that an EOS-M with the new dual pixel sensor won’t be shipping until after the 70D (September) and that a basic EOS-M upgrade with the 18MP sensor will precede it.
Also mentioned is a Canon version of a focal reducer being developed for EF lenses, this will be announced with the 20MP dual-pixel sensor version of the EOS-M.
This model is said to be aimed very much at full frame EOS users as a ‘pro-level’ camera, and will feature an optional full viewfinder.

Sounds interesting – the sort of camera setup that I’d find a use for – I’m giving this one a moderate pinch of salt since details were sparse, but if it’s for real, then info should surface before too much longer.

2013 June

27th EOS-M firmware 2.02

Improves focusing speed in One-Shot AF mode.
Supports EF-M11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM. (When placing the EF-M11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM without conducting the firmware update, at times the EOS M will not function. However this is rare)
Corrects errors in the Simplified Chinese, Hungarian, Traditional Chinese and Korean language menu

19th Suggestions that the new EOS-M firmware does indeed bump up its AF performance AF testing – set of YT videos comparing performance.
10th Queues (lines) are building in the US at stores with stocks of the Hasselbling Lunar.
The rush to spend $7000 on a Nex 7 plus “Italian Design with Swedish Tradition” should be something to behold.
6th Full details for the Canon EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM on the main new lenses page
New V2.0 firmware for the EOS-M is also promised – faster AF will be welcome. There are details from Canon’s New Zealand branch…

Further enhancing the performance and utility of the EOS M, Canon also announces today a firmware upgrade that boosts the AF shutter speed, making One Shot AF up to 2.3x faster1. The new firmware delivers improved performance as a result of a reworked AF Drive Control System and Canon encourages all existing users of the EOS M to download the new firmware version 2 once it becomes available at the end of June 2013.

3rd Is there a new lens on the way for the EF-M range – EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM [DCI Google xlt]


Lunar launch schedule?17th A worldside Lunar rollout could be coming to a city near you in June
This pic is from DCI-xlt (via SAR )
Look 2/3 down the page

The promo pics all push the precision/luxury angle, although initial reports are hardly glowing…

16th One or two EOS-M bodies due before long? Seems more likely than DLSR bodies, according to the pretty minimal amounts of info we’re seeing.
13th Another less than overwhelming review of the build quality of a HasselBling [GTW]
12th There are suggestions of a Canon event at the end of the month – we’re told that a new EOS-M is much more likely than any DSLRs, but compacts are more likely (‘leaked images’ of S200 and SX500 replacement are seen)…
A Hasselbling is sighted in Hong Kong, and after a brief test, comes the question – Why? [TM]
There are reports that a Metabones focal length reducer is being developed for EOS-M

I’ve been expecting to see this from Canon for some time (at a hefty price ;-), it would be great for those of us who like wide EF primes ;-)
If you’ve not seen it before, there’s an excellent overview of such reducers at LensRentals

2013 April

26th Reports of a delay until the summer for the Hasselbling (maybe deciding using the innards from the NEX7 replacement) [AP].
Meanwhile, there are suggestions that we will see a reboot of the EOS-M range with a replacement, lenses and a higher end model [CR].


27th News on the Hasselbling Lunar – a new HB site gushes with such effusive tosh as:
“Lunar is unique because each model is perfected one by one, yet different as only the hand of an artist can make them. Our collection comprises five models, each with their own form and style. The functionality and specification of each model is identical – choosing your grip and top plate material lets you reflect your individuality.”

Yes, buying one certainly would say a lot about you… ;-)

assorted lunars

21st Will the Hasselbling actually get made? [SAR]
20th Last year there was an interesting photograph of a collection of Samsung prototype cameras – some new info suggests that a ‘full frame’ mirrorless camera will be a 2014 product (2014 seems likely to see quite a few moves into the ‘large sensor’ market) [MR]
16th Some suggestions that this week will see the second member of the EOS-M family.
6th It looks as if there will be no EF->MFT electronic adapter from Kippon – said to be patent related [43]
4th I visited the Focus photography show today – the Hasselbling was on show, but no jewel encrusted versions :-(
A few other (bigger) shots on my G+ page



24th Some suggested specs for the next EOS-M [CR]

24mp APS-C
New AF system
Removable Hight res EVF
Optional grip
Slightly larger than the current EOS M
Introduced with 3 more lenses

19th At Pentax forums [PF], there’s a supposed copy of a page from Japanese magazine “Camera Japan”, there’s a slew of ‘predictions’ for 2013 Canon 70D for March, 700D for June, EOS Me for July, 7D Mk2 for August ad an EOS 3D for October.Quite a collection ;-) Picture on main rumours page.
It’s now suggested that the firmware update won’t change AF that much [CR]
Is Nikon about to produce an APS-C compact? [NR]
11th Firmware update EOS-M to improve AF performance amongst other tweaks, should be announced before too long [CR]

2013 January

23rd Every so often a new gadget catches people’s attention, and the popular one at the moment is the Metabones focal reducer. A device I’ve seen used on telescopes for some time, it basically reduces focal length, increases effective aperture and – if well designed and made – makes for a sharper image. If this sounds like something for nothing then you need to allow for the fact that it reduces your lens’s image circle.
However, if you are using it to match the large image circle of an EF lens, to the smaller APS-C sensor of a mirrorless camera like the NEX or EOS-M, then it seems pretty much a win all round. There’s a good look at what it can do on the Lensrentals site – by someone who knows about lens testing.
Do note though that this isn’t going to work with your 7D or Rebel – the mirror gets in the way of any reducer optics. What it does mean is that if there is an EF->EF-M version, then my old 50/1.4 could work like a 35/1 on a future ‘pro’ EOS-M body (hopefully with a decent viewfinder). Include focus peaking and I could use my old manual focus Olympus 50/1.2 as a 35/0.9
A reducer like this, makes a small sensor camera a lot more interesting for someone like myself, with a collection of very wide EF lenses.

How long until Canon produces a version? Just how expensive, is the other question that pops into my head ;-)

17th Suggestions for three new lenses for the EOS-M (prime, zoom and super-zoom) – another body should be along, but not yet awhile I think [CR]

15th Full frame Samsung NX-R mirrorless in a few months? [MLR]
1st A general collection of what to expect from Canon rumours appeared on the Xitec forum in China. – see the Impress magazine page on the main Canon rumours page
Canon 7D Mark II may come with newly developed CMOS sensor, 10fps continuous shooting speed and ISO expendable upto 25600.
Canon 70D will have same sensor / ISO range as 7D Mark II, but its continuous shooting speed limited to 3fps.
Canon EOS M2 will arrive on 2013
Canon 1DSx is also expected to arrive at 2013.

Type Diagonal (mm) Width (mm) Height (mm) Area (mm2) Crop factor
1/10″ 1.60 1.28 0.96 1.23  ??
1/8″ 2.00 1.60 1.20 1.92 21.65
1/6″ 3.00 2.40 1.80 4.32 14.14
1/4″ 4.50 3.60 2.7 7.68 10.83
1/3.6″ 5.00 4.00 3.00 12.0 8.65
1/3.2″ 5.68 4.54 3.42 15.50 7.61
1/3″ 6.00 4.80 3.60 17.30 7.21
1/2.7″ 6.72 5.37 4.04 21.70 6.44
1/2.5″ 7.18 5.76 4.29 24.70 6.02
1/2.3″ 7.70 6.16 4.62 28.50 5.62
1/2″ 8.00 6.40 4.80 30.70 5.41
1/1.8″ 8.93 7.18 5.32 38.20 4.84
1/1.7″ 9.50 7.60 5.70 43.30 4.55
1/1.6″ 10.07 8.08 6.01 48.56 4.3
2/3″ 11.00 8.80 6.60 58.10 3.93
Super 16mm 14.54 12.52 7.41 92.80 2.97
Nikon CX 15.86 13.20 8.80 116 2.81
1″ 16.00 12.80 9.60 123 2.73
m4/3 · 4/3″ (Four Thirds) 21.60 17.30 13 225 2.00
Sigma Foveon X3 24.90 20.70 13.80 286 1.74
Canon APS-C 26.70 22.20 14.80 329 1.62
General APS-C (Nikon, Pentax, Sony/Minolta, Samsung) 28.2-28.4 23.6-23.7 15.60 368-370 1.52-1.54
Canon APS-H 33.50 27.90 18.60 519 1.29
35mm Full-frame, Nikon D3, Nikon D700 43.2-43.3 36 23.9-24.3 860-864 1.0
Leica S2 54 45 30 1350 0.80
Pentax 645D 55 44 33 1452 0.78
Kodak KAF 39000 CCD 61.30 49 36.80 1803 0.71
Leaf AFi 10 66.57 56 36 2016 0.65
Phase One P 65+, IQ160, IQ180 67.40 53.90 40.40 2178 0.64

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