Using the Canon EOS RP
Canon EOS RP impressions
Keith Cooper tries out the EOS RP
Keith’s ‘using the Canon EOS RP’ notes and information page.
In March 2019, Keith added the EOS RP to the Northlight camera collection – how is it to use for a long time DSLR user.
The article is organised by date, and will be updated with info and photos as Keith explores the camera.
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EOS-RP usage and testing
A diary style article looking at the EOS RP – For specifications, updates, reviews and info see the main EOS RP page
2nd I’ll still be updating this page over time, but I’ve written up a longish review of the EOS RP
22nd I’m liking using wider lenses at wide apertures on the EOS RP(EF50/1.4 and Zuiko 50/1.2). In my day to day work I don’t make a lot of use of small DOF – maybe for inside machines to draw attention, but not often.
What I’m liking is the return of ‘proper DOF’ in the viewfinder. Modern DSLRs don’t give a realistic feel for actual DOF much below f/4 or so. I had special focus screens for the 1Ds/1Ds3 and missed this on the 5Ds. With the obvious increase in quality of an EVF in any Canon ‘Pro’ mirrorless, I’m moving towards liking the idea…
With wide lenses you can just adjust aperture and see the effects.
With manual focus, I’m finding the focus peaking very effective, even on longer lenses such as this Mamiya 210mm f/4
The tripod is a new small carbon fibre one I was testing [TC2335 review]
This shot (f/5.6) was focussed on the speed hump in the road. The peaking is nicely visible without being intrusive.
Out of camera jpeg – 1/800 ISO400 (auto ISO) Aperture manually set to f/5.6
As someone not doing weddings/social photography, I only tend to do ‘people’ stuff at business networking events, where I’ll perhaps tweet a few images (from home – I rarely have a phone with me and it’s too old to run any Canon software) or send a few pics to the organisers. Last night I was using the EF50/1.4 (and the EF8-15 F4L FE) and was impressed by the speed of the ‘Face AF’ function for quick snaps in fairly low light.
EF 50mm F1.4 1/60 @f/1.4 ISO1250
No, I’m not going to be adding ‘people pictures’ to what Northlight does, but it’s fun to experiment.
Note – I do photograph people – they just tend to be operating machines or wearing hard hats… ;-)
Oh, and the face AF didn’t lock on in this shot of the statue of King Richard III (of car park fame), that I passed on the way home.
EF50 F1.4 1/60 @f/1.4 ISO2000
21st A quick test with tilt/shift lenses to see whether lens movements mess up metering, the same way they do for my DSLRs.
24mm modest upwards shift
24mm full upwards shift
17mm slight downwards shift
17mm full downwards shift
So, pretty much no effect – tilt is the same.
Now a (slightly cropped) shot taken with my 1978 MTO1000A 1080mm f/10 mirror lens. The moon was low, air not clear and I was using a medium size tripod and no cable release…
However, with a bit of contrast enhancement, it’s none too shoddy, and definitely worth having a ‘proper’ go some time.
The focusing with EVF/peaking is so much easier than any DSLR I’ve tried…
17th I’ve upped the max auto ISO setting to 12800 after looking at the results shooting in darker conditions.
I’m finding I’m using the RP more and more with the screen turned inwards, since it just keeps showing stuff I don’t want to see. I’m at ‘The Photography Show’ tomorrow and will enquire further of some of Canon’s assorted experts…
Our big batch of ‘real work’ has been done, so I’m hoping to get out a bit more this coming week to test the RP. I’ve a new small/light carbon fibre tripod to test as well, so will be making sure I’ve my battery packs in my camera bag ;-)
The movie button is still set to DOF preview.
A cheap ‘L bracket’ from eBay works just fine on the RP (shown with Zuiko 24/2.8 lens)
It fits well, although you might want to increase the gap at the side if you want to fold out the rear screen, or access the ports.
I’ve really got quite comfortable with using focus peaking in the viewfinder with old manual focus lenses. The EVF means that I can quickly stop down as needed without losing visibility. There’s a stronger feeling for lens depth of field that I’ve perhaps not had since I went full frame digital in 2004. This is especially so with wider lenses such as the Zuiko 50/1.2 or even the Canon EF50/1.4 which finally feels like a wide aperture lens through the viewfinder.
The paucity of RAW conversion options for the RP at the moment means I’m actually paying attention to the JPEG files from the camera a bit more.
Down at a local bar, using my 1982 Olympus Zuiko 24/2.8 – 1/40 f/4 ISO (auto) at 12800
No editing, other than reducing size (click to enlarge)
One benefit of this is that although I don’t do photos in conditions like this commercially (I’d have a tripod and be using my 5Ds) I do sometimes take photos at events where technical quality is secondary to actually taking the photo.
[Do remember that I rarely have a mobile phone with me ;-)]
I now look forward even more to a ‘pro’ level mirrorless – I just hope it offers far more detailed customisation options than the EOS RP
14th A new battery pack solves my USB charging issues with my EOS RP
2nd A few short notes from initially setting up the RP and taking a few photos.
Take time to adjust the diopter setting beside the viewfinder – mine was distinctly off when I first looked in it.
Mostly, the camera is very similar to any other Canon camera I’ve used.
- I’ve turned off WiFi/bluetooth, since I’ve currently no need for them.
- I’ve turned off the beep and reduced the default on times of the screen and viewfinder.
- I’ve enabled shutter release without lens so that I can use adapted lenses
- The 3×3 viewfinder grid is turned on – useful for when I’m using TS-E lenses
- I’ve initially set auto ISO for a maximum of 3200
- I’ve changed the movie record button on the top to DOF preview
The image quality is very good – a bit better than my Canon 1Ds mk3 (~2007 21MP) and similar (albeit with half the MP) to my 5Ds.
This 100% crop is from a shot with the EF50/1.4 (1/60 f/7.1 at 3200 ISO) [click to enlarge]
From a quick trip out last night.
At the moment I’m somewhat limited (just Canon’s DPP) in processing the RP’s .cr3 files, which has actually made me appreciate the quality of in-camera JPEG files a bit more ;-)
Meanwhile, a panning shot of a police car zooming past at 50mph, reminds me that 1/10 second exposure is 1/10 second on any camera (50/1.4 f/7.1 ISO 3200)
Initial gripes with the EOS RP
- IS lenses have the IS activated all the time the viewfinder is active. There is no option to only have IS come on with a half press of the shutter release (as it does with all my other Canon DSLRs)
Not only does this add wear and tear to your IS unit, but it’s eating up battery power – especially with big white lenses.
I’m told this is ‘a mirrorless thing’ – sorry not good enough. Add the option to limit IS use to a C.Fn setting please Canon. [Note – ‘continuous AF’ is turned off]
- I’d like to only have the rear screen only come on when I want it. Looking in the viewfinder and taking the camera away from my eye causes live-view to appear on the back screen. It’s simply annoying, especially when I don’t have reading glasses with me and can’t see much other than an out of focus view of wherever the camera happens to be pointing.
If I’m using the camera at night, this is doubly annoying.
Can we have an option for not displaying live-view on the rear screen unless it’s specifically wanted?
Can we also have a ‘default off’ option for the screen, since I’m aware that pressing ‘Info’ a few times will get me an info screen – pressing it once more should turn the screen off.
At the moment, the most usable option is to physically turn the screen to blank it – more thought about this please Canon?
1st A brief note about lens adapters. Any of my simple EF ones with an AF confirm chip lock up the RP when you press the shutter.
Using a simple OM->EF adapter and the EF->RF adapter I get to see, in the viewfinder, the wafer thin DOF of my Zuiko 50/1.2, whilst focus peaking makes it easy to use with the RP.
Northlight’s marketing director Karen, before I gave her my expenses claim for the RP (Zuiko 50/1.2 1/60 f/1.2 1250 ISO)
Using focus peaking at f/1.2, and I’m pleased with the focus…
Our EOS RP has just turned up, and the battery is charging.
- The EF->RF adapter is heavier and more solid than I’d thought (good actually)
- The body feels very much like my 100D to pick up (the baseplate isn’t free here in the UK, so I didn’t get one)
- The body feels a mix of light and plastic and solidly built (remember my day to day cameras have been 1Ds, 1Ds3 and 5Ds)
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