EOS RM/R7 camera rumours
EOS Rm/R7 Rumours
Mirrorless APS-C EOS R camera
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How does the Canon APS-C range of DSLRs and lenses move to mirrorless?
The EOS Rm or R7 (or any other name that gets suggested) is our info page for all EOS R APS-C rumours.
At the moment nothing seems likely until 2021 at the earliest.
Any info we do find will appear here.
See also our main EOS R rumours page
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28th It’s clear that Covid has had an effect on new camera timings, leading to delays and perhaps some re-jigging of plans. However an APS-C mirrorless gets the highest [CR] rating – for a camera in the second half of 2021…
Small – RP sized and with no RF-S lenses
17th After wondering about just how an RF mount APS-C camera might fit in the line-up, I’ve updated the main timeline. My December thoughts were too optimistic in some areas – we’re just not going to see as many 2020 updates as I’d thought. However, with the R5 and R6, Canon’s direction is a bit clearer and the R can be seen as a definite placeholder.
There is another mention of a ‘high end’ mirrorless APS-C [CR] that could well be intended to appeal to 7Dmk2 users
22nd A suggestion that there will be an APS-C mirrorless model for the EOS R system in 2021 [via CR].
No details at all, so this far out, any questions about how and if Canon is going to bring APS-C to the EOS R line are still valid. Also – will there be a 7Dmk3? Is there a market for one last high end APS-C DSLR
A new line of crop sensor only RF lenses seems unlikely, and who knows how this might fit into the EOS M roadmap (the one hidden away in an office somewhere at Canon).
16th The only rumour [no specs or features] we’ve heard of relating to an APS-C EOS R camera is that any upcoming 850D will be matched later in the year with a mirrorless version. This was suggested (thanks) alongside a note that the EOS M5 seems discontinued in some markets.
14th Two things make a Canon APS-C mirrorless camera in the EOS R range more likely.
- Nikon’s Z50 – shows one way to fit in APS-C to your mirrorless range
- APS-C saves money in manufacturing – the XXXD and XXD range of DSLRs, along with all those EF-S lenses are short of somewhere to move to. EOS M doesn’t cut it for many, whilst an APS-C EOS R will work fine with EF-S lenses, EF lenses and RF lenses, both for full frame and some potentially nifty RF crop sensor lenses.
A look at the current range, with some suggestions for where they may go.
Taking the sensor of the new M6ii/90D and putting it into an APS-C version of the EOS RP body will make for a potentially cheaper body and something for XXD and XXXD/’rebel’ users to move to.
The M line gets to concentrate on small size, whilst the APS-C EOS R becomes an easy transition camera from EF-S mount DSLRs and an easy feed into full frame EOS R cameras, which Canon wants, so as to sell more profitable cameras/lenses.
It’s my opinion that any APS-C EOS R’M’ needs to be relatively well specced and not obviously crippled. The days of being able to have 7 crop cameras and micro managing the steps/features between them is over. The specs of any new camera like this will really show if Canon actually ‘Gets it’ over the way the market is changing.
Oh and the new cameras need to be easy to use for people steeped in the capabilities of phone cameras for sharing/editing – in some ways this is probably the most difficult for the camera companies to adapt to…
9th Where are the camera makers going? Downhill quite quickly is one interpretation of recent sales figures. Some well thought out suggestions about what’s behind all this are well worth considering from Thom Hogan [TH]
2nd What do you get with Canon’s EOS RP?
I’ve written up my EOS RP review about the camera and how I found it to use.
Here’s a shot taken with my old EF50mm F1.4, where the face detect AF (at f/1.4) has worked well, even with the bright background
15th The full frame RP is on its way, so at least we have a bit of an idea how Canon intends naming them (for a few years yet). Of course, Canon could change its mind and we could go back to numbers. However, I think the choice of letters is a distinct aspect of Canon’s branding strategy for mirrorless.
- EOS R – medium
- EOS RP – entry
What about versions pitched at some other levels.
- 1D X level – EOS RX?
- 5Ds level – EOS RS?
- 5D level – EOS RV?
What to go below RP? EOS R seems definitely full frame at the moment, but at some point the EOS M range just isn’t going to fit….
- Crop sensor – EOS RC? I suspect not (C for ‘Cine’?)
- Crop sensor EOS RM – this page
If we look at the current and recently mentioned lenses for RF, there’s a very high level pitch.
- RF15-35mm f/2.8L
- RF24-70mm f/2.8L
- RF24-105mm f/4L
- RF24-240mm f/4-6.3
- RF28-70mm f/2L
- RF35mm f/1.8
- RF50mm f/1.2L
- RF70-200mm f/2.8L
- RF85mm f/1.2L
- RF85mm f/1.2L DS
Even if you call the EOS RP ‘entry level’, then the lenses it will have available are nowhere near the old EF-S18-55 kit level. The EOS RP and adapter is a great bonus for used EF lens sellers ;-)
I feel that crop sensors might be kept out of the EOS R brand for a while. The next few EOS R cameras are going to push the camera brand upwards to the level of those ‘L’ lenses. We may well see a new base level XXXD level camera, but the 80D and 7D2 replacements didn’t get any more likely yesterday.
Lenses are a year or two ahead of EOS R body technology at the moment. A Canon presentation slide shows IBIS, in an uncharacteristically detailed bit of ‘coming soon’ info for Canon:
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