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When will there be a mirrorless replacement of the EOS 6D mk2

Will there still be a 6D mk3 DSLR?

The EOS RP seems to be a mirrorless version of the 6D mk2, what about a mk2 RP or were the R and RP just one-offs to get Canon into the mirrorless market?

A new page reflecting the reduced likelihood of advanced new DSLRs

See also the Main information/rumours index page

EOS R evf design

Current EOS R cameras: EOS R – ROS RP

The timeline could be in for a bit of a redesign in 2020…

  Crop  00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
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1.3     1D 1D Mk II 1D MkIIn 1D Mk III 1D Mk IV                  
video                             1D C        
High Full                               5Ds/5Dsr
            5D 5D Mk II 5D Mk III 5D Mk IV
1.6                   7D 7D Mk II
'Better'  Full                                               6D 6D 2
1.6 D30 D60 10D 20D 30D 40D 50D 60D 70D 80D 90D
Mid 1.6         300D
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Kiss
350D
XT
Kiss N
400D
XTi
Kiss X
450
XSi
X2
500
T1i
X3
550
T2i
X4
600
T3i
X5
650
T4i
X6i
700D
T5i
X7i
760D T6s 77D
        750D T6i 800D T7i 850D T8i
Micro 1.6                                 100D SL1 X7 200D SL2 250D
Entry 1.6                   1000D / XS / F 1100D / T3 / X50 1200D T5 X70 1300D T6 2000D T7
                                    4000D
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-less
Full                               EOS R
                              EOS RP
EF-M
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-less
1.6                               M5
                              M50
                            M M2 M3 M6 M6 II
                              M10 M100 M200

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What does the RF mount mean for EF/EF-S & EF-M?
See Keith’s articles: Canon’s changing lens mounts and When will Keith switch to EOS R

2020 May

9th A wireless certification [Nok] Includes R5 and another slightly different sized camera (R6?)

138.5mm x 97.4mm x 71.45mm – same battery as the R5

4th The launch of the R6 could well be pushed back to July, given current concerns. This might lead to it being available by September [CR]

March

18th The potential specs of the R6 are expanded [CR]

  • 20mp full-frame CMOS sensor
  • IBIS
  • 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic.
  • 4K @ 60p
  • FullHD @ 120p
  • Dual card slots
  • No top-down screen
  • Lower resolution EVF than the EOS R5
  • Build quality not as good as the EOS R5
  • New battery
  • June 2020 launch

Whilst the Photokina show, currently scheduled for May 27th, would be a good place for it to appear, I’m afraid I’d not bet highly on that show going ahead, but the camera will probably get some form of announcement.

February

13th A development announcement for the R5, but no mention of the R6 today.

January

30th Does the recent info for an EOS R5 and EOS R6 reflect a return to Canon’s old numbering system, after what seemed a purposeful break with the EOS R and RP?  If so, then we could get back to double digits for APS-C, although Canon’s finances (and the rest of the photo industry) wants to sell a lot more higher margin FF cameras…

29th Specs appear [CR] for an R6 model

  • 20mp full-frame CMOS sensor
  • IBIS
  • 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic.
  • 4K @ 60p
  • New battery (Same as the EOS R5?)
  • June 2020 launch (May announcement)

Older info from our earlier EOS RS/R5s page


27th Some rather optimistic specs for an ‘RS or R5’ appear on [CR], with a 45MP sensor

2019 December

4th Some specs appear [CR] – supposedly from a tester.

Canon EOS Rs Specifications:

  • 75mp full-frame CMOS
  • Sensor “focused on the dynamic range”
  • Frames per second “… Sounded similar to the EOS R”
  • DIGIC 9
  • Dual Card Slots
  • Joystick the same as the EOS-1D X Mark III
  • Larger and higher resolution EVF than the EOS R
  • Fully articulating LCD screen
  • Fully weather-sealed
  • Similar ergonomics as the EOS R (No touch bar)

Take with suitable scepticism at the moment. None of these would be hard to guess if asked to make up a ‘likely’ set of specs – only a few months to go ;-)

October

22nd There seems to be a rumour going round (thanks for the enquiries/info) that a ‘pro level’ mirrorless EOS R will be appearing before the ‘UK Photography Show’ in March – An event I always go to, but hardly one I’d expect such a significant announcement for.  The version recounted  to CR suggests 60MP too.

There is likely to be a 5Ds level replacement appearing in ‘EOS R format’, but a true 1 series style mirrorless? That’s a while off yet I’d suggest and rather more than an EOS R mk2.

Do remember that Canon has (mostly) got a lot better at leak control in recent years, so reliable info about such cameras probably won’t come until a matter of weeks before any announcement.

September

10th Some would-be specs [CR]

  • A slightly larger body and grip than the EOS R
  • 80mp full-frame image sensor
  • A “new style” of joystick
  • Larger LCD than the EOS R
  • Larger viewfinder than the EOS R
  • The “viewfinder” can be tilted up and down (We’re not sure if this was the LCD screen or the EVF, we have reached out for some clarification)
  • Dual SD card slots

No video specifications are known

9th A Japanese Canon patent application specifically mentions an 83MP sensor as an example in a discussion of DPAF

Specifically: 83.06MP sensor of 11150 x 7450 pixels in size

This is the full frame scale-up size for the APS-C sensor found in the 90D / M6 mk2 [via CN]

Older stuff is on the EOS RS/R5s page

2015 February

13th The 1D X mk2 is suggested for 2016
Will the 5Ds 2 only be available without LPF?
11th A CPN article has a brief interview with the head of the 5Ds/r design team.

As with any Canon ‘interviews’ don’t expect too much in the way of insight ;-)

6th Cameras finally announced
There is a very good overview of the cameras and technology at CPN

2015 February

5th We’re told that Canon is not done with its basic new 5D design and that a 5D C will appear later this year to go with a 5D mk4.

See the 5D4 page, although since I don’t use video at all, I’m unclear how much sense this makes?

4th Prices are leaked [PR]

Canon EOS 5Ds: €3,499 (around $4,000)
Canon EOS 5Ds R (no low-pass filter): €3,699 (around $4,200)
Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM: €2,999 (around $3,400)

January

30th Two new 5D variants are suggested, both with a 50.6MP full frame CMOS sensor
An EOS 5DS R version will be without low-pass filter

Magnesium alloy body, dust and water sealed
Dual DIGIC6
ISO 100-6400
5 fps
High precision 61 AF points, EOS iTR AF
150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
New “fine detail” picture style
1.3x and 1.6x crop modes
Customisable “Quick Control Screen”
Time-lapse movie, Interval Timer, Bulb timer

This info (and pic) first appeared on a Japanese site [DC – Google xlt]

From my own POV, it will be a nuisance to move from a 1 series body, but its a big enough jump from my 1Ds3 (which the 1D X wasn’t) to make it pretty much a no-brainer for our architectural work. The question remains though as to how much difference the AA filter makes?

At [CR] there is a suggestion that the relatively low max ISO is from a much stronger set of colour filters than usual – more welcome news if so.

We’ve also had a comment [thanks] that the 5D mark 4 is due for an August launch, and will be an update aimed at a much wider audience than the 5Ds
If you were interested in the new 11-24 lens that will probably be announced at the same time, see the animation on the main lens page comparing it to the 8-15 and EF14 II – that is a lot of glass!

9th Three versions of a new 5D are suggested [CR] an updated 5D4 and two 5Ds models with and without AA filtering, at ~53MP

2014 December

30th With a rumoured high MP DSLR from Canon (main rumour page) I note that at [CR] they have been told that the camera could be the 5D mk4, which could also fit in with suggestions that the 6D2 will move upmarket.

Earlier rumours – see the 5D mk4 rumour page

Detailed Specifications of the 5Ds/sr

Canon EOS 5DS Canon EOS 5DS R
Price
MSRP $3699/£2999/€3999 (body only) $3899/£3199/€4249 (body only)
Body type
Body type Mid-size SLR
Body material Magnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution 8688 x 5792
Image ratio w:h 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels 51 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors 53 megapixels
Sensor size Full frame (36 x 24 mm)
Sensor size notes Offers 1.6x and 1.3x crop modes, as well as medium and small Raw sizes.
Sensor type CMOS
Processor Dual DIGIC 6
Color space sRGB, Adobe RGB
Color filter array Primary color filter
Image
ISO Auto, 100-6400 (expandable to 12800)
White balance presets 8
Custom white balance Yes
Image stabilization No
Uncompressed format RAW
JPEG quality levels Fine, normal
File format JPEG (Exif v2.3, DPOF v2.0)
Raw (Canon CR2, 14-bit)
Optics & Focus
Autofocus Contrast Detect (sensor)
Phase Detect
Multi-area
Center
Selective single-point
Tracking
Single
Continuous
Face Detection
Live View
Autofocus assist lamp No
Manual focus Yes
Number of focus points 61
Lens mount Canon EF
Focal length multiplier
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCD Fixed
Screen size 3.2″
Screen dots 1,040,000
Touch screen No
Screen type ClearView II TFT-LCD
Live view Yes
Viewfinder type Optical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage 100%
Viewfinder magnification 0.71×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed 30 sec
Maximum shutter speed 1/8000 sec
Exposure modes Scene Intelligent Auto
Program AE
Shutter Priority AE
Aperture Priority AE
Manual
Bulb
Custom
Built-in flash No
External flash Yes (via hot shoe and PC sync port)
Flash X sync speed 1/200 sec
Drive modes Single
High-speed continuous
Low-speed continuous
Silent single shooting
Silent continuous shooting
Self-timer
Continuous drive 5.0 fps
Self-timer Yes (2 or 10 secs)
Metering modes Multi
Center-weighted
Spot
Partial
Exposure compensation ±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing ±3 (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB Bracketing Yes
Video features
Resolutions 1920 x 1080 (30p, 25p, 24p), 1280 x 720 (60p, 50p), 640 x 480 (30p, 25p)
Format H.264
Videography notes Supports ALL-I and IPB compression
Microphone Mono
Speaker Mono
Storage
Storage types SD/SDHC/SDXC (UHS-I compatible), CompactFlash
Connectivity
USB USB 3.0 (5 GBit/sec)
HDMI Yes (mini-HDMI)
Microphone port Yes
Headphone port No
Remote control Yes (Wired and wireless)
Physical
Environmentally sealed Yes (dust and water-resistent)
Battery Battery Pack
Battery description LP-E6 lithium-ion battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA) 700
Weight (inc. batteries) 930 g (2.05 lb / 32.80 oz)
Dimensions 152 x 116 x 76 mm (5.98 x 4.57 x 2.99″)
Other features
Orientation sensor Yes
Timelapse recording Yes
GPS None

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