Canon 5D mark 2 info archive
The EOS 5D Mark II
Archive page 4 – launch to December 2008
EOS 5D Mark II Information/News
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- 5D2 Press info EU / US / Australia
- 5D Mark 2 specs
- Controls layout
- Canon Info (final Moon)
- More Canon Info (sample images)
- 5D2 info – DPR – Video of Camera functionality / Lots of shots of camera (Canon)
- Peripheral Illumination Correction / Battery Management
- AF Microadjustment – article and test image download
- Camera manual Canon US PDF / 5DII/50D Brochure
- Original 5D info
- DxoMark – sensor info
- Black spot PS action
- > 5D2 and 50D white paper (PDF)
- 5D2 Intro/reviews: LL / BBL / Rob Galbraith
- Samples / review info DPInterface
- Sample gallery (DPR -JPEG only)
- High ISO 5D2 wedding photo samples
- Reviews/reactions DPT / Bui / DJ / DCW
- Impressions of use JCO / RSB /FM / RS / BM / TOP
- Lots of sample images – Flickr 5DII section
- Samples (inc RAW) AIR
- > Reviews PB / PhilHolland / PopPhoto / TDP
- Assorted comparisons AAT
2008 December 31st In the UK I’ve heard of several dealers with stocks (kits and bodies), and even our Amazon link is showing stock (but do be careful to confirm prices and stock with third party providers – some are still rather high)
It seems that some of the more extravagant ‘deals’ offered by some UK retailers at the time of launch are no longer being honored once the cameras turn up. There was a retailer offering free printers – the fact that they were not even Canon printers didn’t apparently go down too well with Canon ;-)
29th From the US I heard of someone fed up with waiting and lack of information from Ritz, who tried Adorama – shortly after appearing as ‘sorry backordered’ it was shipped… Note, I’m told that Adorama NYC had the kit in stock this morning.
Similar reports from France where someone is told that with 300 preorders, their camera (body only) will be there in January – next thing it turns up just before Christmas.
27th In the UK, several of the online suppliers are showing avilability – but only for kits.
Video link added above.
25th Happy Christmas (or whatever else you do ;-) I’m just taking a break from cooking lunch…
Cameras seem to have been arriving from many more suppliers, including some of the cheaper ones at last. One person said that even Ritz was finally sending a camera ordered on Sept 17th. Meanwhile, the camera is available in Russia, but I’m told that actually getting one could set you back $6k…
24th We’ve had quite a lot of reports of cameras shipping – even for people wanting just the body. Still quite a few waiting lists though, but worth hunting round.
In the UK I’ve heard of cameras at Dabs and even Amazon.co.uk is listing stock.
23rd A new review from RL added above.
I hear of cameras being shipped at last from BT Shop (kit) and a few more from Amazon at last. I’m also told that B&H had kits listed…
An Australian reader had two calls yesterday – including a local dealer who just took the lens out of a kit for them, while Qualitycamera had stock.
A few people have had faulty cameras (error 20 [DPR] and error 30 [DPR]) and the message “Shooting is not possible. Turn power switch to and again or re-install the battery”. We were alerted to this by a reader (thanks) who’s camera only started doing it in extreme cold.
Not very common but annoying if you have to send your new camera back for a replacement. Most electronic devices ever shipped broadly follow what’s known as the ‘bathtub’ curve of failure, so there does tend to be a higher rate of failures of new products and new designs of products.
22nd New PS action #2 to remove black dots added above. I’m also told that at the end of last week, several of the UK on-line suppliers had cameras in stock.
Several dealers in the UK seem to have stocks of kits, but are suggesting that body only versions will only become widely available by mid January.
2008 December 21st Good news for those looking for an improved audio input solution for video. I hear that Beachtek will be launching an adapter (DXA-5D) in the new year. It will have two XLR microphone inputs, an LED screen to view the audio volume coming in, and an earphone plug to monitor audio.
I’m continuing to be amazed (and amused ;-) at the amount of praise heaped on the rather pricy ‘Lensalign Pro’ for AF microadjustment. I guess I just don’t understand the true gadget collector side of photography. I can at least take my hat off to the developers for spotting the market for such a device – I particularly like calling it the ‘PRO’ version, giving that subtle hint that unless you use something like this you are perhaps a bit of an amateur in your photography
I’ll happily stick to one of the ‘free’ methods of AF microadjustment I’ve listed here on the site :-)
I saw someone compare using this device to the difference between using Adobe Gamma to set up your screen or a proper hardware calibrator – not even close I’m afraid…
BTW – If you ever wondered how AF systems work, I noticed this nice clear simple explanation at a Nikon site.
20th BestBuy still have the odd ‘spare’ cameras in stock – I just heard of someone finding three in a small store in Texas, and getting a body shipped to their local store. To top it off, BB even honoured a 10% discount voucher… Be nice to those store assistants ;-)
Someone in Montreal got a camera at the original price, having paid a deposit at order time – other reports I hear from Canada suggest the big price rise from currency fluctuations is more likely being passed on. I’ve heard consistent rumours of price rises in the UK coming in the New Year, as the pound drops. That said, prices are falling – I just noticed that the 1000D body is down to £244 and the 40D body down to £540
It’s worth checking other stores too, since many have had waiting lists shrink as people either made multiple orders, or have taken fright at the black spot horror ;-).
In a story all too typical of some of the cut-price box shifters, I hear of someone first being told their camera had shipped and then that it hadn’t and their order was cancelled (after they had cancelled other orders). Perhaps I won’t be looking to play.com for my next camera… As ever, for the time being it’s worth being extra wary of ‘cheap’ offers.
19th In the US I hear (thanks) that someone from Samy’s in LA said they’d only seen a few cameras since release, while Canoga said they had some 200 body only orders waiting. Buying a kit though only took a week or so’s wait.
Another warning to check availability before paying – those kits we mentioned at Lambda-Tek the other day. Seems they forgot to update the web site when they all went – most careless ;-)
Update – It seems that dealers like Lambda-Tek are at the mercy of Canon changing their minds on a whim. They just contacted us and pointed out that whilst they might be assured of significant quantities of cameras one day, they’d had the order drastically reduced not long after. Demand is such that it took them just 35 minutes to shift the last batch… Unsurprisingly, they’d love to be able to supply all the pre-orders, but even their suppliers (they don’t deal with Canon directly) don’t have accurate (or consistent) info on what will ship and when.
In a different take on the supply situation, it seems that quite a few dealers have reached their credit limits with Canon, and as such, Canon are a bit wary given the current economic climate.
Two direct reports of looking for the spots (thanks): one unable to find them in a thousand images taken in the last week (many with bright lights) and another only -not- finding evidence of the spots in images at 100 ISO with image processing options turned off.
There is an acknowledgement of the issues by Canon [Japanese] both black spot and vertical noise banding in sRAW. There is an investigation and a firmware fix is mentioned.
1. ‘Black dot’ phenomenon (the right side of point light sources becomes black) When shooting night scenes, the right side of point light sources (such as lights from building windows) may become black. The phenomenon may become visible if the images are enlarged to 100% or above on a monitor or if large prints of the images are made.
2. Vertical banding noise If the recording format is set to sRAW1, vertical banding noise may become visible depending on the camera settings, subject, and background. The following camera settings can reduce the phenomenon.
* Set the recording format to RAW or JPEG.
* Set C.Fn II-3: Highlight tone priority to 0: Disable if the recording format is set to sRAW1.
* The vertical banding noise is not noticeable if the recording format is set to sRAW2, but please set C.Fn II-3: Highlight tone priority to 0: Disable if you are concerned about noise.
I was reminded of initial problems with the 5D that needed a firmware update “shutter cannot be released when using the EOS 5D + EF85mm F1.2L + Speedlite580EX”. There was the viewfinder tilt on my 1Ds3 and the infamous 1D3 AF problems. It’s well known that the companies do consider first users as final beta testers ;-) I’m just surprised that some of these problems don’t get spotted. C’mon Canon send me a new camera – I do beta testing for for all kinds of manufacturers under NDA – I suspect I could have spotted the black dot problem… Is it that important to marketing that you only get ‘famous names’ to try stuff out? Why not involve some of us who not only take good photos, but have a real interest in the technology too (which as I’ve found, is not so common amongst pro photographers – much like business skills ;-)
Aperture 2 and iPhoto08 now have updates that support the 5D2 and G10
Link to specific 5D2 video forum added above.
2008 December 18th We heard of a smaller UK store telling a customer that Canon ‘are only shipping to companies that have taken pre-orders with full or partial deposits’. If you ask around it appears there are cameras to be found – one in Chiang Mai, Thailand (Photo Bug) for example ;-) Another UK dealer just received a batch of kits (17), this after receiving about 2 a week for the last few weeks. They also said that this was the most ‘pre-ordered’ camera they’d ever stocked.
It’s well worth checking, since quite a few people will have dropped out of waiting lists, either from finding a camera or ‘black spot induced paranoia’ :-) I just heard from someone who only a few weeks ago was 20+ on a list, but just got called by a dealer, since they had a camera available. I’m also informed that Mifsuds have some available.
I’ve seen several attempts on forums to correlate serial numbers with black dot issues, however I’ve not actually seen any consistent findings as yet…
There are more reports of third party flashes not working with the 50D and 5D2 – certainly Sigma and SunPak are both saying there will be some firmware updates available to fix this.
Note – Items from the launch to the end of November are now on a new archive page – this page was getting a bit long…
We’ve actually got 5D2 related rumours going back to December 2006 where a certain Mr Crockwell tells us that the 7D will be the 16MP replacement for the 5D :-)
2008 December 17th It seems that in the UK, Lambda-tek have just had a stack of kits delivered (20), whilst RGB Tech are sending out mails asking people if they still want cameras, and if so to let them know so they can ask Canon very nicely, to please send some cameras… ;-)
Also, Jacobs are ending out emails suggesting a delivery on the 20th, and I’ve heard that it’s the 19th for Jessops. In the UK it’s definitely worth checking smaller stores too, since I heard of one in Cambridge that received more than it had preorders for [Campkins]
In Canada, I’ve heard of someone finally getting a camera from a dealer’s first shipment. They were also told that the next lot might not be until mid January. Meanwhile in Toronto, somone is expecting two cameras – only ordered last week, and I heard that a place callled Canada Camera had stock. Delivery still seems a little based on the luck of the draw…
New firmware next week? [CR]
White paper and TDP review links added above
16th Intermittent updates for a couple of days, since I’m travelling round bits of the UK doing some photography teaching :-)
At a Best Buy in Florida, a prospective purchaser was told that they could only sell with a store waranty – needless to say, they were told where to shove the camera. :-)
Even Play.com in the UK and one call in the US have started to ship some…
The latest update to lightroom now supports the 5D2.
15th Quite a bit of technical info appearing, such as this diagram of the AF sensor layout from Chuck W on Flkr
I see there is a review of the (IMHO vastly expensive) Lensalign on LL. Given you can do all of the alignment (for free) with a technique like we’ve got on the site here, I really do have to wonder when I read the effusive comments on LL ;-)
Thanks too, to a reader for pointing out an interesting thread on pixel binning and sRAW that appeared a while ago on DPR, that I’d missed.
There is also this technical piece on the Canon CR2 file format that might be of interest.
We’ve had a report from someone, who after extensive testing, is unable to duplicate the black spot problem, so it does not appear a universal problem.
I’ve also heard from a UK 5D2 owner, called by Canon 2nd level support suggesting that the problem is thought to be rectifiable with a firmware update. The problem is being investigated around image processing. The person calling suggested that none of the other Canon sensors have this problem. The firmware fix is still in development and they couldn’t confirm its release. It could be tomorrow or two weeks away. It was also suggested to turn off various image processing options, although most people who’ve tried this say it doesn’t actually do much.
In a Canon Europe PR piece, there are a whole host of night-time shots, but not a black spot to be seen ;-)
Then again the actual photographs in the article are small and blurred and seem to be more about wandering round with a bunch of soldiers at night – not to take away from the guy’s previous PJ work, but I’m not greatly impressed. I’m sure there are far better illustrations of the camera’s night time performance…
There are also reports of issues with using some 3rd party flashes on the 5D Mk2, in particular the Sunpak RD2000 – see this FM thread which includes a suggestion that the suppliers are looking into it.
We also heard of a 10th Oct Ritz body only order shipped and a local shop in Sacramento that still can’t meet its 15 or so orders from Sept/Oct. It seems that some of the ‘second tier’ suppliers are worth a try since we were also told of one ordered at Berger Bros. in NY and delivered a week later.
14th Is Calumet (US) is deciding its own version of where your order is in the line? I’ve heard of September 17th orders still waiting (once again if you ordered a kit you seem much more likely to get a camera). I’ve heard similar stories about Ritz, with people having an order with them for a couple of months then ordering with someone like Adorama (or a local dealer) and getting a camera within a week. Most dealers are now quoting steady (but small) supplies. Many do still have waiting lists, but not all.
Do remember that I’ve no personal experience of US suppliers and am passing on comments I’ve received from US readers (thanks)
2008 December 13th Thanks to all the people writing in as they get cameras (and those of you who’ve been checking this page for months!)
Black dots to go soon? [RG] “While Westfall is not yet able to divulge precisely what the announcement will say, he characterized it as good news for owners of Canon’s newest digital SLR, and that the announcement is expected soon.”
How good is the video? – some comments and samples from Zacuto [RG]
I heard of Jessops shipping an order, but not applying the new VAT rate.
In US the I heard from someone who’s Ritz Sept 29th body order had still not shipped, but a Nov 18th kit order had just shipped. A 14th Nov Calumet (kit) order shipped yesterday.
Unfortunately it seems that people having the longest waits in the UK are those looking for body only at some of the online dealers who tend to emphasise ‘price’ – I’m hearing that Canon is definitely favouring the established dealers with supplying kit options. Even so, Jacobs early ‘deals’ and low prices caused quite a bit of concern (and amusement) for dealers who knew how much they were actually paying for the stuff ;-)
12th I’ve now heard from a couple of people in the UK who’ve received November orders from Dabs.
Meanwhile a third party provider on Amazon.com is taking the concept of price gouging to new levels, asking for $4500 for a kit! Sounds like ‘Cameta Camera’ are a load of crooks, until you note that not to be outdone, some bunch called ‘Stop4digitall’ are listing a body at $4000 (kit $5k !!). Please just shop round, don’t support lowlife like this!
I know we’ve got an Amazon link below, I’d just say, don’t support disreputable dealers – I’ve just checked out our Amazon account and several cameras have shipped at $2700 for the body
PopPhoto review added above
11th I hear comments that B&H are shipping (a camera from Nov 30th was on its way from what is I believe a batch of 30)
Some people in the US have had the following response when making an official complaint about the black spots [DPR]
“Canon Inc. recognizes this issue, and is preparing a countermeasure. We will provide further details as they become available.”
I’m still hearing from people (thanks) who just don’t see the black spot problem in their images – if you’ve not noticed it, then messing round at 200% in raw files is rarely a productive activity ;-) If your camera does show the effect, then do be sure to contact Canon – they don’t want a repeat of the 1D3 saga and are likely to be a bit quicker to try and deal with it this time…
Apropos of that, someone with two cameras in Canada tells us that they are unable to duplicate the problem, but after talking to Canon, they were told that a firmware update is due (their cameras are V1.0.6). Chuck Westfall at ‘The Digital Journalist’ has written “Watch for an official Canon comment on this issue in the very near future.”
In the UK I’ve also heard that Park are hoping to have considerably more deliveries later this month.
In Canada I hear that some dealers are still trying the ‘Are you a Pro’ question…
Fotovideo in Norway is telling people who ordered at the launch (17 Sept.) that almost all who ordered then will get their cameras very soon.
New Video link above
10th Thanks to Andrew Yip for sending us details of his ‘black spot’ test, and importantly, how to replicate it at will. He points out that it took quite some time to find an example, but they are there. I should note that we’ve had people contact us after testing, unable to replicate the effect at all. There is a photoshop action that has been written in an attempt at alleviating the problem.
One of the recent reviews we mentioned has been updated with some pics and black spot info [RS] – I’ve had an extra hard look at some recent night time shots taken with my 1Ds3 and once I remove any sharpening in the raw processing (ACR) there is not the slightest sign of any dots/lines next to seriously overexposed point light sources.
DxOMark now has updated sensor info that includes the 5D2
Note for those who keep saying it’s the same sensor chip in the 1Ds3 – it isn’t: 5D2 is 5634 x 3753 and 1Ds3 is 5712 x 3774 so the 1Ds3 still has a 412kPixel advantage (Yes, as a 1Ds3 owner, that makes all the difference :-) Note that these are actual pixel numbers, not the image size, which is the same in each camera (5616×3744)
I hear that BestBuy told a visitor that the company is only stocking the 5D Mk2 online, and only at select stores.
A new review added above [BM]
2008 December 9th Canon are looking into the black spot issue [CN] “We have been made aware of this and are looking into it,”
From examples I’ve seen, the effect looks real, although the fact that it wasn’t picked up by people poring over all the pre-production images shows its one of those things you don’t notice until you do. (See this image from Canon – a jpeg, -not- a video frame though)) I know of at least one reviewer looking into the issuse, who has so far been unable to duplicate the problem with their own 5D2.
It’s good to see the conspiracy theorists already accusing web sites of trying to cover it up…
In the Netherlands a message for someone waiting was received from Redcoon, that the camera will be delayed until January.
A delay from Jessops (UK, Oct 21st order):
“We are sorry to hear that you have not yet received your order.
Having had the opportunity to look into this for you, I can advise that the delivery that came in on November 30th was for a very limited amount.
This was used to fulfil all of the order that were placed first, and unfortunately that did not include your own.
Due to low availability of this product, we are now not expecting another delivery until after Christmas. ”
However in another roundup of UK replies we were kindly sent:
Jessops are saying: Out of Stock for Home Delivery – Usually Available Within 10 Days
Warehouse Express are saying they expect deliveries mid December
Calumet UK are saying: 5D2 Body Only Pre-Order Now! Available from 10th December
Jacobs are saying: Out of stock (approx. 10 days delivery)
London Camera Exchange are saying: “coming soon”
RGB-tech are saying: they are not taking any pre orders, and say the price will go up in Jan 09 because of the £ Vs. €
We continue to get various Jessops related updates including one that:
“Canon have told Jessops that all back orders for the 5D Mark II should be cleared by the end of this month. That’s 90+ body only orders and a some kits. Delivery to stores ‘very soon’. No explanation for the delay however.”
Meanwhile Canon UK are obviously getting confused by having two camera dealers with names beginning with ‘J’. Someone wrote to ask them asking about supplying Jacobs and got a response talking about Jessops…
A US Canon rep admits “Canon USA doesn’t actually know when and how many 5Ds they are getting” [DPR]
There is a good review and 1Ds3 comparison [PH] and a new video link added above.
8th A good first impressions article [RSB] from someone moving from 20D -> 5D2
Black dots be gone? – we’ve been following developments in this saga over the last few days, not wanting to contribute to any of what is an awful lot of uninformed speculation. Check this thread on DPR for what seems a potential explanation – basically turn off several fancy auto settings and any spots vanish ;-) That probably makes it a firmware issue, not a sensor one. Whilst we’ve not heard the last of this, take any wailing and gnashing of teeth you hear, with a pinch of salt ;-)
Note, if someone from Canon actually cares about this, then feel free to drop me (or a reputable guy like Rob Galbraith ;-) a note (off the record if preferred ;-). Remember that your dismal 1D3 AF response (perception trumps reality in this) did not do a great deal to inspire confidence. If you’ve learnt -anything- from that, then a prompt more open response this time might save a whole lot of trouble.
Meanwhile Chuck Westfall mentions some of those very settings in the first part of his latest ‘Tech Tips‘ worth a read, even if his suggested AF micro focus adjustment procedure sounds slower than mine :-)
Not sure whether Best Buy will have any left but it’s nice to hear that yesterday’s mention got a few people their cameras :-)
In HK, I hear of a dealer with 100 outstanding orders, that is expecting about 10 a week for the forseeable future.
Seemingly, B&H took orders for 30 the other day – sent out 12 [Corrected] and don’t know when the rest will ship.
Canon UK told one caller “…we do not know when the next shipment of the 5D MKII is coming in.” they also said that this was their response to dealers too. OK, so presumably Canon UK sends some guy in a van down to the docks each morning to see if a boat is turning up with some cameras on it? Yes, that must be it… ;-)
Meanwhile a UK dealer had two cameras turning up – one went out to a customer, the other wrongly got sent to one of their shops, where the staff decided to try it out. When the intended customer finally gets to collect it, it’s been opened and used. No ‘opened box’ or ‘display model’ discount… So, if you’ve just got a 5D2 from Sussex Cameras In Chichester and it seems to have taken more photos than you thought, then you know why ;-)
A Personal view… I can see why, with the shortage of cameras, that a dealer would just say hard luck, and sell the camera at full price. I can see why, but it just doesn’t sit comfortably with my own definitions of good customer service – if I don’t deliver on some aspect of a job (rarely, but things can break) then I take the financial hit and go out of my way to make sure that what the client remembers are my -extra- efforts to fix things and minimise their inconvenience.
Unlike many professional photographers I’m looking to the economic downturn to sow the seeds of success for when things improve – I’m increasing marketing and investment in new equipment. For those of you who might wonder how a page like this one helps my commercial photography business, well it brings traffic to the site, which helps raise the search rankings of all my commercial photography pages (the bits I’d not expect that many visitors to this page to look at ;-) If you wonder too, why I have adverts on my commercial pages, then my server thinks you are outside of the UK. If you get to one of the commercial pages from a search for a photographer and you are outside of the UK then you are not too likely to employ me – so the site serves up an advert ;-)
2008 December 7th Best Buy in the US seem to have the camera in stock and I’ve heard of a few being snapped up.
I’ve had several people write and say they’ve successfully used the AF micro focus calibration technique that I first tried for my 1Ds3. Well worth a try to ensure that ‘slightly off’ focus is not giving you the impression that your lenses are a bit soft.
However, if you’re moving up from a 5D for example, then do remember that the camera is much better at showing up deficiencies in lenses, not to mention camera shake and a potentially smaller usable (sharp) depth of field – I noticed this when moving from 1Ds to 1Ds3 last year.
I’ve also heard that eBay prices are dropping a bit for the 24-105 – did that many people really not want one?
6th As expected, different people get told different things by dealers (draw your own conclusions ;-) For example Warehouse Express told one early orderer a month ago that they had had 58 orders on the first day – this has now gone up to 80 – did they find those extra ones when they moved some furniture or something? Anyway, they also told him he wasn’t in line for one of the first 25 bodies they received…
I heard of another camera obtained in Montreal (ordered at launch) and following on from the theme above another potential orderer there says he was told that he couldn’t have a camera because he wasn’t a Pro photographer. This particular comment has surfaced a few times in regard to cameras in Canada. As far as I know, it has no truth whatsoever – there is no such restriction, but if anyone knows anything more I’d welcome clarification.
In the US I’ve heard of orders with Calumet and Adorama getting shipped – although it still looks as if most dealers have sizeable waiting lists.
In Germany it seems that if you want a kit version you are more likely to find one, but then again I’ve heard of a dealer who was set to get 20 cameras (10 kit) next week, but has had that pushed back to next year. Doesn’t look like shopping for low price is one of the better options yet.
Update – thanks to people who’ve told me of just walking in to a shop in Germany and being able to buy a kit – so there are a few out there :-)
5th Quite a lot of info received yesterday – here’s a summary
In the UK:
One dealer who had not received any cameras at all and was told that a significant portion went to Jessops. Another northern dealer (8 shops and mail order) were allocated just 2 bodies and 3 kits. A southwest based dealer had also not had any cameras and have been promised 10% of their order – about 3 or 4 total. Warehouse Express were provided with 80 which have all gone out on pre-order. They suggested that their next sizeable shipment may not be until early February. Jacobs claim to have received “far less than ordered” and still have a lot of unfulfilled pre-orders. The story I’ve heard from many is that Canon are giving priority to dealers who sell at the full RRP
In Montreal someone was able to get a kit version, with the grip and a battery from a store – but for a Sept. 17th order. For others waiting the news is not so good since the dealer was saying “that Canon is flooded with orders and have a hard time keeping up with the demand” … and “even though they are a huge store in Montreal, they were told by Canon not to expect more than 3 to 5 cameras delivered to them per week.”
In the Netherlands:
Two weeks phoning around finally struck lucky when a dealer in Urk had a spare kit version, since most people were wanting body only (one of two cameras shipped) most dealers had been saying next year. The word was the Netherlands had a grand total of 60 cameras in the first batch.
Someone was lucky enough to find a store with one in stock. What’s more, the dealer took the unwanted lens out of the kit…
2008 December 4th Some updates I’ve been sent (thanks)
Calumet in the US told one enquirer that they only had enough cameras to ship some of the earlier pre-orders – suposedly Canon are not saying much about future shipments. A September order from JR has just been shipped, as have several (kits) from Ritz online (Wolf).
However it’s worth noting that looking at pixel level images at this resolution will show up all kinds of things that won’t ever appear in a print. I’ve not seen a raw example myself, and I did just check that it’s not there on my 1Ds3…
3rd Amazon are shipping, I just had an email from someone who ordered the 5D mark2 with 24-105 kit on September 17th, and was emailed today with the notification it is on its way with UPS .
Cameras in Australia – a Melbourne dealer received a few, but only a fraction of their order.
In the US I heard from two people that phoned round dealers and picked up a camera (kit). Meanwhile one person with an Oct 1st order from Ritz was given the runaround and told no cameras until the 12th…
I’m hearing similar stories of problems with various online sellers ‘customer service’ lines. It all to often seems that if you don’t like the answer, then ring back in 5 minutes and speak to someone else. I’ve had friends work in such places and know they are often given very little firm information themselves to work on.
In Romania, I’ve heard that the 15th of December is when cameras are due.
I was also asked about any potential 5DMk2 problems – I know of none whatsoever, but I will be actively maintaining this page for any 5D2 related news.
2nd I hear from Canada, of Vistek shipping a body ordered back in September – interestingly the BG-E6 and LP-E6 battery pack ordered in October had just arrived. In the US, an October 7th ordered camera is on its way from Ritz. Adorama are telling people that they expect 350 cameras this week and hope to ship by Thursday.
2008 December 1st Many more cameras should be shipping today, although most dealers are still only getting a relatively small proportion of what they could sell – thanks for all the mails from people who’ve been following the page for updates :-)
The 24MP D3x is announced – no movie mode and a hefty price that makes the 5D2 look very good value for many photographers. We’ve got lots of information on the D3x page.
2008 November 30th Several peopele have mentioned that it’s still worth phoning round ‘local’ dealers in the US, since it would appear not all stock is spoken for (I was told of someone getting one direct from Competitive in Texas)
For those of you moving from a 5D to a 5D2, you might be interested in my 1Ds3 notes I put together when moving from a 1Ds to 1Ds3 last year?
29th In Switzerland, Canon are saying that cameras will be shipped out to local dealers at the start of December – however I’m later informed that official dealers got a few kit versions on Friday.
It seems that (in Canada at least) dealers save $408 on buying the 24-105 f/4 IS in a kit [CR]. I’ve heard of several people who are looking to sell the lenses that came with their cameras.
28th Reports from quite a few people picking up their cameras in the UK today (thanks everyone – have fun :-)
There is also this message from Jacobs (UK)
We have started to receive a very small quantity of the new Canon EOS-5D Mark II into stock and due to the huge interest and orders many of you have placed with us, we are working closely with Canon to fulfil those orders as soon as possible.
We are operating a strictly first come first served list managed centrally so irrespective of where you made your purchase through Jacobs you will be treated fairly. Our Store, Web, Mail Order or Business-to-Business teams will contact you when stock arrives which has been allocated to your order. Unfortunately if you decide to contact us regarding your order we will not be able to give you any further information. We thank you for your order and understand how frustrating it is not to know when it will arrive, please be assured we will call you as soon as more details concerning your order are available.
Not such good news in Germany where one enquirer was told by Canon that they’d be lucky to get one for January – however another reader just told me they were offered a kit from stock at a dealer today.
Note – we’ve just picked up the specs for next week’s Nikon D3x announcement (24.5MP) – see the D3x page for more
27th There was stock for HK dealers, but virtually all the first deliveries (mostly kit versions) were spoken for, and waiting lists are long.
In the UK Calumet are delivering cameras on Monday, and splitting kits, since that’s all they got (look for various ‘no box’ offers if you want a 24-105). Warehouse Express are also saying Monday.
Canon UK has changed the status of the 5D MKII from ‘NOV 2008’ to ‘NEW’
There is no shortage of 5DII images out there now, so I’ll just add more unique videos/articles/reviews to the list above. Thanks to all the people who’ve taken the trouble to write. I’ll keep maintaining this page for any 5D2 related news. New camera rumours will continue – not much for the 5D Mk3 yet :-)
If you’ve found the information on the site of use/amusement, then please consider buying your Amazon purchases (any kinds of items) through this link to Amazon.com items or (in the UK) Amazon.co.uk items
Thanks already to everyone who has done! …much appreciated.
26th Lots of news of real cameras at last…
You can follow ‘live’ requests for comparisons/test shots from someone with a 5D2 in China at DPR :-)
Someone got one from Kenmore Camera [Fkr] and Precision in Texas got some.
Adorama have shipped some cameras to early orderers and the cameras seem to ‘be in the post’ (tracking info has been supplied).
Calumet UK sent someone a message
“We are getting the cameras in on Friday so you should get it on Monday”.
UK purchasers might want to wait until Monday if possible, for invoicing, since you’ll pay less VAT, due to the tax cut (£50 or so on a body).
Amazon (US) has told some people that they can’t supply by Christmas.
There are also reports of scam auctions on eBay – don’t ever be tempted to wire money to people – it’s a surefire warning if they ask.
25th In the US, Adorama are saying shipping next Monday for one camera pre-ordered at launch and one local dealer has said they expect delivery on the 26th or 28th (27th is a US holiday).
In the UK Jessops have been contacting people high on their list and offering to get the cameras to them for Friday. Even the BT online shop now has the 5D2 in it (yes I buy all my cameras from the former state telephone company ;-)
24th Shipments of the Canon EOS 5D Mark II will begin leaving Canon USA’s distribution centres en route to U.S. dealers starting November 25, 2008, says Chuck Westfall… Items such as extra Battery Pack LP-E6s, Battery Grip BG-E6, Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E4/E4A and EG-series focusing screens were expected to ship at about the same time as the camera body… Retailers in Canada were recently informed that they could expect their initial units of the camera beginning the first week of December [RG]
In Beijing, I hear of a camera store doing a kit today for RMB26,000, and will be able to do a Body only for RMB19,000.
In the US, RitzCamera was calling to verify one reader’s pre order – RitzCamera says that the 5D Mark II will ship first week of December. Adorama has also been calling to tell people that their 5D Mk II will be shipping either Friday this week, or next Monday at the latest.
On the Dutch Canon site it says delivery from today…
If you’re looking at a big jump in your camera capabilities when getting a 5D2, then do have a look at the latest link above – not a technical review, but more the kind of ‘impressions/review’ I did for the 1Ds3 and GX200
We’re told that firm HK prices have been announced: HK$20,800 (~U$2,700) for the body, with the kit lens it’s HK$28,400 (~U$3,700) – shipping later this week.
Thanks again to everyone sending in info…
23rd Several suppliers in Germany are saying that cameras will be shipping next week (27th/28th)
In the UK I hear of one dealer that was told by Canon “…numbers would not be allocated until pre-sales had been made” They had 50-60 pre-orders and were expecting an allocation of 10. In the US, it seems [FM] that Midwest Photo in Columbus ordered 300 cameras, with about 100 pre-orders. They expect 35 or so in the first shipment sometime next week.
If you were looking for any of the accessories, then there appears quite a wait. Jessops were saying that they were told that the wireless file transmitter is a special order item and would take up to 6 weeks from the launch date to be in stock.
BTW – if anyone has any other accessories info from anywhere in the world – please do let us know.
21st Canon [Japan] are saying that the camera (body and kit) will be released on the 29th of November.
Meanwhile in Australia I note the comment [DPR] that “There are only about 150 cameras available for Australia this delivery, with another delivery due before Christmas of similar size.”
I can see that Canon really would want the camera to start arriving in people’s hands before Nikon are making announcements the following week (D3x page)
20th I’m told by someone well up on the Calumet UK list, that despite Canon really pushing the kit version of the camera, Calumet hope to be able to supply some cameras next Friday (28th)
19th An update on delivery in Germany where there appears to be a hierarchy in who gets what…
1st the local dealer (They mostly sell for the MRP, ~2499 euros in Germany).
2nd the big electronic stores (maybe around mid December)
3rd the onlinestores at the end of December.
Also Canon told German dealers that the kit with the 24-105 lens is shipped preferentially (Canon sets the dealer prices high enough that they can’t really sell under 2400 Euros. )
In the US I hear of some people successfully finding local dealers with relatively short lists i.e. a reasonable chance of a camera by mid December.
We’ve had some more detailed info on various UK suppliers.
Bristol cameras had ordered 50 from Canon – they suggest that anyone who preordered before November 10th would get a camera before Christmas, others would have to wait until next year.
It seems that Canon delayed deliveries and that now there will be around 900 units arriving in the Jessops warehouse to be in stores for around the 3rd/4th/5th December.
It seems that several other dealers are saying the same thing …that Canon pushed back delivery estimates to the end of this month.
However at the same time we hear of someone getting a good deal on a kit version and assured of delivery for the 26th, and another was told that Canon has said no 5D2 until the start of next year…
18th As delivery gets closer we can expect a rush of reviews/first impressions – I’m adding new items to the list above. Thanks too, for everyone who’s sent availability info.
I’ve just had an interesting call from someone in the UK who called Jessops yesterday, when they were expecting some cameras to arrive … today it’s ‘we don’t expect any this side of Christmas’ – whether this reflects that anything that did turn up was all pre-ordered, or represents some delay then we don’t know. As ever, always best to ring and check your own order status.
Update(s) – Someone else called and was told they don’t expect to have any until the end of this month… whilst another visitor to a store was told their ‘system’ says 7th Dec… A third caller was told the 30th Nov (a Sunday BTW) and a big delivery expected.
If anyone knows any more – please do let us know ;-)
Calumet (UK) are saying that Canon are telling them that some will be shipped at the end of the month, but in very limited quantities.
Dabs (UK) are sending out the following info for 5D MkII body only:
“Stock is due to arrive in two consignments for this item. We currently have expected due in dates of 5th and 10th December for delivery to us from the manufacturer. Please note that these dates can be subject to change by the manufacturer. If the stock were to arrive on these date, any outstanding orders would normally complete within 24 hours. Prices can be subject to change.”
There are lot of comments from people visiting dealers (DE and US) and being told that unless you get some of the limited early shipments, it’s going to be 2009 [DPR].
5D Mark II accesories prices are now up on the Canon (US) site.
Battery Pack LP-E6 -$100
Battery Charger LC-E6 – $80
Battery Magazine BGM-E6 – $45
WFT-E4A – $950
Battery Grip BG-E6 $380
Car Battery Charger CBC-E6 – $270
Focusing Screen (Standard) EG-A – $45
Focusing Screen (Grid) EG-D – $45
Focusing Screen (Super Precision) EG-S – $45
Strap EW-5DMK II – $30
AC Adapter Kit ACK-E6 -$180
DC Coupler DR-E6 – $70
Deluxe Tripod 200 – $45
17th We’re told of a large US Consumer electronics store that has a new Canon DSLR in their inventory. An ‘in stock’ date is given as the 7th of December. Quantities are not yet listed but are likely to only go to selected ones of their near 1000 stores.
Also, Canon has released a version of DPP (V3.5.1) that supports the 5D Mk2 and amongst other things, supports luminance noise reduction for sRAW images taken with the EOS 5D Mark II and EOS 50D.
At the moment it only appears if you select a windows OS [Canon] – we’ll look for better download links…
15th Jessops in the UK are still telling people that they are expecting some cameras next week. It shouldn’t be too long until we can check the veracity of their sales pitch ;-)
14th In a good insight [thanks] on how ordering/delivery might go (US) I’ve heard of a Pro dealer in Illinois who has taken 50 pre-orders and would be giving them out on a first-come-first-serve basis. They didn’t expect to meet all the orders all until nearly February based on impressions they were getting from Canon, even though they expect to get their first shipment “in a couple weeks”.
Correction/update to an item from 10th
B&H and the 5D2. After taking 30 orders on Nov. 2nd (for the 5D Mark 2 + 24-105 kit), they stopped taking any orders until they knew how many Canon are shipping and when, and Canon still won’t say. Initial shipments are likely to be kit versions only. Any stock that does become available is likely to have been sold to direct callers long before it makes the web site.
13th Looking for a cheap 5D Mk2? Well I’ve heard from Germany that suppliers advertising below the Canon 2599 Euro price may not find themselves getting many (if any) cameras before Christmas. It seems that the -cheap- internet dealers are unlikely to get any of an initial 28/11 shipment.
12th In an update to the UK Jessops info below, we’re told by someone who pre-ordered one from them a few weeks ago, that after speaking to someone from Canon, they were expecting the camera in store on the 26th November.
Meanwhile Amazon.co.uk are saying:
“This item is due to be released on November 30, 2008.”
…and Amazon.com are now saying:
“Usually ships within 1 to 3 weeks”
I’ve also heard from someone in Canada, who’s dealer (Leo’s, Vancouver ~$3100 BO) couldn’t do anything about the price hike, but were including an 8GB Extreme CF card.
For a more complex version of what they think is happening in Canada, see the item at CR
Also in the UK, even play.com is saying Nov 30th (~£2500 kit)
As to when new orders are likely to be shipped, dealers are a bit quiet on that one…
In Germany a dealer commented that Canon Germany had informed them that they will get 5 EOS 5D Mark II on Friday the 28th of November, even if they had preorderd 10. Also Mediamarkt (electronic store chain) said that a Canon representative has told them that they will get one 5D2 on the 28th of November.
In the US a ‘local’ dealer was told by Canon that they could only initially order 5 cameras.
Thanks again to everyone sending in reports!
11th I’ve heard that a major US dealer, is collecting credit card info from people high up on their list, hoping for possible shipping maybe as early as the end of this week.
If you go to the Canon brochures site and type in 5D, you can download a 20 page brochure for the 50D/5D MkII.
10th We were sent an interesting comment about B&H and the 5D2. After taking 30 orders on the first day, they stopped taking any orders until they knew how many Canon are shipping and when, and Canon still won’t say. [Corrected 14th Nov]
Lot’s of discussions over price rises in Canada, although as was pointed out, some countries still don’t have an official price yet…
I’m told that Australian official prices are:
Body Only $4299
24-105 kit $5799
9th Some video discussions and shot of the 5D Mk2 packaging at DVi
8th It seems that Canon (Note – in Canada) have decided that the demand for the 5D2 vastly exceeded their predictions and that there may be some limitations on where it goes first [CR]
I’ve not heard anything directly along these lines, but most dealer reports suggest that at least here in the UK, you are unlikely to find one, in a hurry, this year.
Surely Canon keeps track of what goes on, on the web?. The sheer amount of web space devoted to the 5D replacement should have been a hint – the number of visitors to this page alone convinced me that a 5D2 was going to be difficult to come by initially.
7th We’ve had reports of some of the cheaper UK prices going back up to full price again. In particular one dealer that had gone down to ~£1800 has just gone back to RRP (~£2300)
Meanwhile I hear [thanks] that Jessops in the UK are expecting substantial deliveries (to their warehouse – ship to stores 3-4 days later) on the 17th and 21st. The stores don’t know the levels of internet pre-orders so can’t say what actual supply levels will be like in stores by the end of the month.
RGB Tech have stopped taking pre-orders for the body and don’t expect to re-open their lists until February at the earliest.
6th If you are looking for 5D2 extras, then we were kindly sent the following suggested (MSRP – not ‘street’) US prices.
LP-E6 battery pack: $100
BG-E6 battery grip: $380
WFT-E4A wireless file transmitter: $950
5th Quite a lot of currency related price rises in Canada, with Henry’s going from $2800 to $3100. It seems that shopping round may still get you an order at the lower prices [Thanks for the updates]
+ Another video link added above
4th Directly from Canon (US) we were sent a comment:
“Canon USA is still on target to ship the EOS 5D Mark II to US dealers by the end of November, as stated in our original press release dated September 17th”
Also (via Chuck Westfall):
“…as I mentioned in the comments section on The Digital Journalist/Tech Tips October edition, the 5D Mark II’s dedicated accessories are expected to ship to US dealers at around the same time as the camera itself.”
However, B&H has moved kit availability back to “Approx Arrival December”
New samples above (high ISO wedding)
In a French magazine, there is a 5d2/1Ds3 comparison and I’ve kindly been sent a summary of some of its points:
Changes to the RGB filter. It says that the Bayer matrix uses new colorants that have higher light transmission thereby increasing the relative sensitivity of the CMOS. This gives a higher ISO rating but could result in reduced colour selectivity and colour gamut. When compared to the 1Ds mk3 the differences are minimal. Signal to noise is better than the 1Ds for the same reason, more light reaching the sensor, less gain needed in the signal amplifier so less noise.
The reviewer seems to rate the ‘Highlight’ mode and the test photos seem to have more detail than the 1Ds at the same settings. Areas not so good include: the buffer being a little small for raw and slow x sync, no continuous AF in video mode.
Guess it won’t be long until we get some detailed comparisons…
2nd Amazon (.com) have told some people Nov 18th for stock, While Beach (US) are claiming tomorrow… [DPR]
Update… Beach says: “there is no truth to the rumor they will have the canon 5d mark ii on Nov. 3 … Canon is telling them early December.”
Two weeks after the manual (as per many other Canon cameras in the past) would be Nov 7th (Friday)
And, inscrutable as ever, at B&H the Canon 5DM2 kit (w/24-104) went from “Availability November” to “Out of Stock” suggesting they might have (briefly) had a few in – body only still shows December.
Calumet (US) say 1-3 weeks for the kit version.
Thanks for all the comments and info
1st Is there a ‘new’ version of the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens going to be shipped with the 5D Mk2? (New lenses page)
2008 October 31st I’m told that Jessops in the UK are “expecting 500 bodies between the 17th-24th November, of which they only have 62 pre-orders.”
However, at a dealers in Newcastle (UK) yesterday they “are expecting them mid-late November but aren’t expecting to have more than they need to fulfil pre-orders. They reckoned it’ll be into the New Year before the 5D2 is plentiful.”
There is also news of potential price changes in Canada due to currency fluctuations. No such news in the UK yet.
Thanks for all the updates!
30th More video links added above.
Two companies in Denmark are both saying that they expect stock by 11th Nov. B&H says “Availability: Approx. Arrival December” for body only.
28th After getting some people’s hopes up with their delivery dates, Adorama (US) have moved to later in November (like most companies who are quoting the vague estimates from Canon).
27th Still no firm dates anywhere – Vistek in Canada have 28th Nov on their web site.
I’ve had quite a few people ask me for good places to get a 5D2, but as yet we’ve got no firm info worth reporting. Once they actually start appearing, then we’ll pass on any info received.
October 26th Several people have observed that Canon tends to ship cameras within two weeks of the manual appearing.
There was a suggestion [FM] that Adorama were due to get 300 on Monday – but far less than they could shift…
Some more good video samples on a German site
24th The manual is now available for download (above) from Canon USA
A UK supplier confirmed that stock was due in the 1st week of November, but said they won’t have any “free” (non-reserved) stock until early next year. At a UK show yesterday, a Canon rep was asked when?:
“within the next two weeks” – they also hinted that stocks might be quite good, but not necessarily immediately for every re-seller.
Thanks again to people for sending in the info – it all helps
23rd UK prices look to be moving downwards, moving under the £1800 (inc. VAT) mark. I don’t know some of the companies I’m getting reports of and I’ve no idea when you might actually see your camera, but it seems worth looking round.
In Spain, one larger dealer is suggesting that they will get some cameras on the November 18th.
22nd A follow up on the SDK (software development kit) release – this indicates that the firmware/software development for the camera has been ‘frozen’ ready for release.
21st I hear that Canon have announced the 5D2 SDK, which apparently usually only happens a few weeks before shipping. Also a UK dealer has the price down to just over £1800 (for mid Nov. delivery)
19th I note that play.com has changed the 5D2 status to: ‘Temporarily out of stock. This item will be dispatched as soon as it arrives.’ ;-)
October 18th Whilst I’d be disinclined to use the term ‘scam artists’, I was just told (thanks) that play.com in the UK are claiming that the camera is available tomorrow (yes, Sunday). If I was at all unsure, the following review comment helped:
“The camera was just amazing, the picture ive captured is like you are actually there. Its 21 mega pixels of pure genius. The price tag is sort of a swipe at ur pockets but its worth it. I recommened it strongly.” [sic]
‘User’ generated content, don’t ya just love it ;-)
17th Amazon UK are still taking pre-orders and saying Nov 30th. LCE in the UK are saying ‘end of November’.
Several UK dealers are suggesting that general availability won’t be until December at the very earliest, and from the large number of existing orders, may not be until next year.
16th I was told (thanks) that Canon USA are saying:
“will be generally available in the U.S. towards the end of November right around Thanksgiving.” FYI this US holiday is on Thursday, November 27th
8th I’ve had several reports that people have been told of late October, or early November availability, although when pressed, these estimates turn out to be a little ‘soft’.
7th More video comments from NRK [Norwegian], who despite their enthusiasm, are a bit bothered about aspects of sound recording.
They also have some more sample images from a pre production camera. Note too the link we’ve added above with info on a production 5D2.
6th I’ve had more comments [thanks] suggesting that the 5D2 asking price is coming down a bit in the UK. Though no ideas on how soon it will ship.
2nd For the Calumet events I hear [thanks] there are lots of accessory discounts available, but maybe of more interest is a new lens ‘promotion’ starting on Oct 19th – no more info, but could be part of a new rebate scheme?
In Sweden, Canon are saying late November for 5D2 deliveries.
It seems that focusing screens are not the same as the 5D – I had a report [thanks] from someone who compared a 5D screen with that from the 5D2 – there are minor differences. When pressed, Canon said that there would be 3 screens for the 5D2, but didn’t say anything about availability.
2008 September 30th In the UK, I’m hearing of trade-in deals and other pre-purchase offers (free grip for example) – looks to be well worth a call round to see what’s available. Several people placing orders at local stores were on single digit waiting lists and were expecting their cameras by mid-late November.
Some time ago we mentioned a demo of the 5D at Calumet stores this Saturday – I’ve heard of stores that didn’t know about this – best check beforehand.
29th B&H seem to have reached a limit in their software. We’re told (thanks) that when you click on the ‘notify when in stock button’, a pop-up says:
Due to unprecedented consumer interest we are unable to add any additional correspondents to this list. Thank you for your understanding.
24th We’ve found that Amazon (.com for the USA) have stopped taking preorders and are now only accepting sign-ups for availability. Amazon.co.uk is now saying that the camera will be released on November 30th. Dealers we’ve spoken to in the UK are not expecting many cameras until December.
23rd The video from Vincent Laforet is now posted.
22nd I’ve now heard of more UK price cuts, so it’s definitely worth shopping around and ringing to see what’s on offer.
21st Shopping around is revealing various deals (free cards etc) but not much shift in actual price. I’ve heard of price variations of up to £200, but not necessarily from retailers I’d use myself ;-)
What difference will HD Video make to photographers? An interesting take from Vincent Laforet.
Easy HD video capture has the potential to be quite a disruptive technology, although many people will soon discover that whilst capturing good quality video footage has just got a lot easier and cheaper, making effective use of it is still a different matter.
20th Thanks again for all the info people are sending in. I’ve just added a picture below, showing a 24-105 attached to the 5D2 (taken at a a ‘Canon Digital House’ in Tokyo – thanks to Shuichi Yamada)
19th Early November is the most common shipping date we’re hearing at the moment.
NRKBeta, Norwegian Broadcasting’s technology site, has analysed 5D MkII video clips… “Very promising” 5D2 and the 1Ds3? A comment from someone talking to Chuck Westfall [DPR] ‘at higher ISO’s the 5D II will outperform the 1Ds III by “two and a half stops.”‘
September 18th We’ll keep an eye on prices and availability here over the coming months and point to any info we get suggesting what we are going to get for PMA next March.
I’ve heard of a Norwegian store that’s taken a couple of hundred pre-orders in the last couple of days, and reckon it won’t be until the new year that they are freely available. Now while I’d expect a store to say that, it might suggest a longer period of ‘full price’ availability than I’d initially thought?
This was confirmed in a chat with several UK dealers who admitted that they were taking a lot of orders.
Thanks for all the mails sent during the day – I couldn’t check since I had the misfortune to be doing a presentation at a Marriott, where the hucksters that they are, charge an arm and a leg for any internet access :-(
Oh, and I can’t resist pointing out that we called the 21MP in our specs a few days ago and had a picture of the camera last week – a big thanks to everyone that has written in, especially those with the ‘correct info’ ;-) – you know who you are ;-) Shameless plug alert! – Since this page is getting so many new visitors I feel I ought to mention my partner Karen’s Bridal Jewellery web site. If you know of someone getting married in the UK, please do feel free to pass on the site info: Silvertree Bridal Jewellery – jewellery sales may eventually pay for a new camera, so that mine doesn’t go for a walk quite so often ;-)
The combination of features has attracted a lot of interest – as (as ever) has the UK price. Since there will be reviews galore for the new camera, I’ll be keeping this page updated with all the latest 5D Mk2 info we find or get sent. New Canon Rumours are now on the 7D page
I suppose that it was just always going to happen, but there has been an awful lot of ‘Is that it’ comments on some forums. What these people were expecting I’m not sure, but expect competition to move that price down significantly over the next few months.
5D Mk2 Key Features
21MP CMOS sensor (similar to EOS-1Ds Mark III)
Sensor dust reduction by vibration of filter
ISO 100 – 6400 calibrated range, ISO 50 – 25600 expansion (1Ds Mark III & 5D max ISO 3200)
Auto ISO (100 – 3200) in all modes except manual
3.9 frames per second continuous shooting
DIGIC 4 processor, new menus / interface as per the EOS 50D
Image processing features:
Highlight tone priority
Auto lighting optimizer (4 levels)
High ISO noise reduction (4 levels)
Lens peripheral illumination correction (vignetting correction)
RAW and SRAW1 (10 MP) / SRAW2 (5 MP)
RAW / JPEG selection made separately
Permanent display of ISO on both top plate and viewfinder displays
AF microadjustment (up to 20 lenses individually)
Three custom modes on command dial, Creative Auto mode
Image copyright metadata support
98% coverage viewfinder (0.71x magnification)
3.0″ 920,000 dot LCD monitor with ‘Clear View’ cover / coatings, 170° viewing angle
Automatic LCD brightness adjustment (ambient light sensor)
Live view with three mode auto-focus (including face detection)
No mirror-flip for exposures in Live View if contrast detect AF selected
Movie recording in live view (1080p H.264 up to 12 minutes, VGA H.264 up to 24 mins per clip)
Two mode silent shooting (in live view)
New jump options in play mode
HDMI and standard composite (AV) video out
Full audio support: built-in mic and speaker, mic-in socket, audio-out over AV (although not HDMI)
IrPort (supports IR remote shutter release using optional RC1 / RC5 controllers)
UDMA CompactFlash support
New 1800 mAh battery with improved battery information / logging
New optional WFT-E4 WiFi / LAN / USB vertical grip
Water resistance: 10 mm rain in 3 minutes
|Amstelveen, The Netherlands, 17 September 2008: Canon announces the full frame, 21.1 Megapixel EOS 5D Mark II: the first EOS with full High Definition video capability.Compact, lightweight with environmental protection, EOS 5D successor boasts a newly designed Canon CMOS sensor, with ISO sensitivity up to 25,600 for shooting in near dark conditions. The new DIGIC 4 processor combines with the improved CMOS sensor to deliver medium format territory image quality at 3.9 frames per second, for up to 310 frames.
Triggered from Live View Mode, HD video capture allows users to shoot uninterrupted at full 1080 resolution at 30fps – for amazing quality footage with outstanding levels of detail and realism.
The integration of HD movie capability into a high-end 21.1 Megapixel camera opens a multitude of new possibilities for photojournalists and news photographers. With its full frame CMOS sensor and outstanding ISO performance, the EOS 5D Mark II will appeal to any photographer in search of the finest camera equipment available – from studio and wedding to nature and travel photographers.
Addition of Canon’s EOS Integrated Cleaning System, with a new Fluorine coating on the low-pass filter
New 21.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor with improved EOS Integrated Cleaning System (E.I.C.S.)
New CMOS sensor
New DIGIC 4 processor
HD video capture
Precision focus and metering
A new optional Wireless File Transmitter –
Signal conversion in Canon’s CMOS sensors is handled by individual amplifiers at each pixel site. Unnecessary charge transfer operations are avoided, vastly speeding up the process of getting signal to the image processor. Noise generation is reduced, power consumption is limited and faster frame rate potential is increased.
DIGIC chips work with a high speed DDR-SDRAM image buffer – reading, processing, compressing and writing image data fast enough to keep the buffer clear during long continuous shooting bursts. And because DIGIC integrates all key processing functions, power consumption is kept to a minimum.
EOS Integrated Cleaning System
Reduce – Internal camera mechanisms are designed to minimise dust generation. The redesigned body cap prevents dust generation through wear on the cap itself.
The six pre-sets are:
Standard – for crisp, vivid images that don’t require post-processing
Digital Photo Professional supports sRGB, Adobe RGB, colourMatch RGB, Apple RGB and Wide Gamut RGB colour spaces. ICC (International Colour Consortium) profiles can be attached to TIFF or JPEG images when converted from RAW. This allows faithful reproduction of colours in software applications that support ICC profiles, such as Adobe Photoshop. For improved efficiency, a set of image adjustments can be saved as a recipe and applied.
Picture Style Editor
|CANON U.S.A. INTRODUCES THE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED EOS 5D MARK II DSLR CAMERA FEATURING FULL-FRAME HD VIDEO CAPTURE
The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Escalates Full-Frame Digital SLR Photography to the Next Level with HD Movie Recording Capabilities, DIGIC 4 Imaging Processor, and 21.1 Megapixel Resolution
LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., September 17, 2008 – Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging, today introduced the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera, the long-awaited successor to Canon’s highly popular EOS 5D, introduced in 2005. Building upon the qualities that made the EOS 5D camera so successful, Canon has coupled the creative power of a full-frame CMOS sensor in a relatively compact and afford able camera body, together with groundbreaking HD video capture that opens the door to a much wider range of imaging possibilities for photographers. Along with the ability to capture full HD video clips at 1920 x 1080 resolution, Canon’s EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera features a 21.1-megapixel full frame 24 x 36mm CMOS sensor, DIGIC 4 imaging processor and significantly lower noise, with an expanded sensitivity range from ISO 50 to ISO 25,600.”The anticipation surrounding the launch of this camera model has exceeded our greatest expectations, and we believe our loyal customers will be awed by the=2 0level of innovation and features built into the new EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR. Once they have the chance to experience the camera, we believe they will agree that it was worth the wait,” stated Yuichi Ishizuka, senior vice president and general manager, Consumer Imaging Group, Canon U.S.A.
Among the many advancements in Canon’s new EOS 5D Mark II camera is the Company’s proprietary DIGIC 4 Imaging Processor that powers the camera’s fast 14-bit analog-to-digital conversion for smooth colour tones and exceptional gradation. The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR offers a full-frame 24 x 36mm, 21.1 megapixel CMOS sensor and continuous shooting at 3.9 frames per second (fps) for an unlimited number of full-resolution JPEGs to the capacity of the memory card or up to 14 RAW images in a single burst when using a UDMA CF card. The camera includes a 15-point Autofocus (AF) sensor with nine selectable AF points plus six additional Assist AF points (three center AF points sensitive to f/2.8 lenses) with enhanced light source detection and AF microadjustment for greater autofocus performance. The EOS 5D Mark II camera also features a large, clear 3.0-inch Clear View LCD screen with 920,000 dot/VGA resolution, four times the pixel count of the EOS 5D camera’s 2.5-inch screen, for enhanced clarity and colour when viewing images. The new camera is equipped with a high-performance, high-magnification optical viewfinder providing 98 percent coverage, giving a new dimension to the saying, “what you see is what you get.” Professi onal photographers will also appreciate the enhanced 150,000-cycle shutter durability of the EOS 5D Mark II camera.
Canon, the first company to introduce a full-frame digital camera, has improved the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera’s newly developed full-frame CMOS image sensor. Utilizing proprietary Canon technology, the Company has reduced noise and expanded the sensitivity of the CMOS sensor up to ISO 25600, which is three full stops higher than the ISO 3200 limit of the original EOS 5D camera. Although the individual pixel dimensions of the EOS 5D Mark II camera are the same as the 21.1-megapixel CMOS sensor used in the EOS-1Ds Mark III digital SLR, the new sensor incorporates an improved output amplifier and a more advanced colour filter that improves light transmission while retaining excellent colour reproduction. By applying the same kind of advancements in sensor design and image processing technology as the recently introduced EOS 50D camera, but at higher resolution and with larger pixels, the EOS 5D Mark II achieves the highest level of image quality of any EOS Digital SLR released to date.
With the combination of its improved CMOS image sensor and the powerful new DIGIC 4 image processor, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera provides ISO speeds from ISO 100 up to ISO 6400 in 1/3-stop increments, along with two high-speed settings – H1 and H2 – of ISO 12800 and ISO 25600, respectively, as well as a low-speed setting of ISO 50. The full-frame sensor maximizes the performance of Canon EF20lenses, the world’s largest selection of autofocus lenses.
HD and SD Video Capture
Canon has taken its expertise in imaging, photography and video capture technology to a new level with the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR. Answering the question of where SLR technology is going next, the EOS 5D Mark II features 16:9 Full HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels and 30 fps as well as 4:3 standard TV quality (SD) video capture at 640 x 480 pixels and 30 fps, both capabilities appearing for the first time in a Canon SLR camera. Video capture is part of the camera’s Live View function, using the Picture Style that has been set for Live View still image shooting. This allows skilled photographers and cinematographers to adjust image sharpness, contrast, colour saturation and white balance, and have those settings apply to the movie image. When recording video, the camera’s rear LCD screen can be letter-boxed by a semi-transparent border to match the aspect ratio of the movie recording size. Moreover, the EOS 5D Mark II camera’s HD video capability enables new levels of creative expression through its unfettered access to the complete line of more than 60 Canon EF lenses, which provide an incredible variety of visual effects including everything from ultra-wide-angle and fish-eye to macro and super-telephoto, including many large-aperture L-series professional lenses that can keep the main subject in razor-sharp focus while blurring the background beyond recognition.
The EOS 5D Mark II will record video20up to 4GB per clip or a maximum continuous movie capture time of 29 minutes and 59 seconds, whichever comes first. Depending on the level of detail in the scene, a 4GB memory card can record approximately 12 minutes of video at full HD resolution or approximately 24 minutes in standard definition.i Video clips are recorded in .MOV format using an MPEG-4 video compression and sound is recorded using linear PCMii without compression. The new camera features an input terminal for external stereo microphones as well as a built-in monaural microphone for convenience. To help show off those fantastic movies as well as still photos, the EOS 5D Mark II camera includes an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) output to display crisp, clear images on a High-Definition TV.
Live View Shooting
For both still images and video, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera features Live View, one of the most sought after features in digital SLRs today. The 5D Mark II features three Live View AF modes – Quick, Live and Face Detection Live mode – for capturing either still photos or video, each with its own attributes. Quick mode automatically sets One-Shot AF using the camera’s phase detection AF system. It also allows users to select the AF point, even while the Live View image is displayed. Although the camera’s reflex mirror must be lowered briefly to take an AF measurement in Quick mode, it is the fastest way to set focus automatically when the 5D Mark II camera is set for Live View.=2 0
Live mode uses contrast-detection AF with the image sensor and here, as with Quick mode, users can change the AF point using the Multi-controller. Face Detection Live mode uses contrast AF to recognize human faces. When multiple faces are detected, the largest face closest to the center of the frame is targeted as the AF point. While Live View is engaged users can still change settings including the AF mode (Quick, Live, Face Detection Live mode), drive mode, ISO speed, Picture style, White Balance, and more.
Peripheral Illumination Correction
The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera automatically conducts peripheral illumination correction when shooting JPEG images, a function that previously could only be accomplished through post-image processing using software such as Canon’s Digital Photo Professional, which Canon supplies at no extra charge. Peripheral illumination correction evens brightness across the image field, making an image of a blue sky even toned throughout and reducing light fall-off at image edges. This new feature essentially eliminates one of the limitations of previous full-frame digital SLRs.
Auto Lighting Optimizer
Canon’s enhanced Auto Lighting Optimizer technology helps ensure each picture’s subject is clearly visible by analyzing image brightness and automatically adjusting dark areas in images so that they appear brighter. This function is ideal in high-contrast situations such as urban landscapes captured on sunny days, where the tops of buildings are brightly lit while=2 0street level details are obscured by heavy shadows. In this type of scene, the 5D Mark II camera’s Auto Lighting Optimizer technology preserves accurate exposure of the highlights while opening up the shadow areas for a more pleasing tonal rendition.
Canon’s New Creative Auto Mode
Recently introduced with the new EOS 50D, Canon’s “CA” Creative Full Auto setting can also be found on the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera’s mode dial. This setting allows users to make image adjustments such as aperture or shutter speed through an easy-to-understand navigation screen on the camera’s LCD menu, allowing them to “blur the background” or “lighten or darken the image.” These easy-to-understand image options allow photographers to experiment with image options while still shooting in an automatic mode.
Two Small RAW Formats
For photographers seeking the flexibility and creative possibilities of shooting RAW format images, without the large file size, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera offers two more manageable file size options with sRAW1 and sRAW2 recording formats. At the sRAW1 setting, resolution is 10.0-megapixels with a file size that is approximately 25 percent smaller than a standard 21.1-megapixel RAW image. With the sRAW2 setting, resolution is 5.2 megapixels at less than half the file size of a standard RAW image, retaining all of the flexibility and creative possibilities associated with full-size, conventional RAW images. Wedding and portrait photographers, in particular, will appreciate th e options of variable resolution and file size which allow them to fine-tune the 5D Mark II’s operation for their specific needs.
Silent Shooting in Live View
Canon has equipped the EOS 5D Mark II with two Silent Shooting modes in Live View which will prove particularly helpful to law enforcement officials, and for behind-the-scenes shooting on movie sets. In Mode 1, the camera will shoot with the mechanical shutter open at the beginning of the exposure, using the electronic 1st-curtain function of the CMOS sensor and a reduced shutter-cocking noise, allowing multiple shots to be taken with minimal noise. In Mode 2, to minimize shutter noise during single frame photography, shutter cocking does not occur until the shutter button returns to the half-way position after shooting.
EOS Integrated Cleaning System
With the introduction of the EOS 5D Mark II camera, the entire Canon EOS system is now equipped with the highly acclaimed EOS Integrated Cleaning System. The Self-Cleaning Sensor Unit for the Canon EOS 5D Mark II has been upgraded with a fluorine coating on the low-pass filter for better dust resistance.
Pricing and Availability
The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera is compatible with Canon EF lenses and is scheduled for delivery by the end of November. The EOS 5D Mark II will be sold in a body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $2,699iii. It will additionally be offered in a kit version with Canon’s EF 24-105mm f/4L=2 0IS USM zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $3,499iv.
New EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM Lens
The new EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens is the successor to Canon’s EF 24mm f/1.4L USM professional wide-angle lens released in 1997. Targeting professional photographers, the new EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens has been introduced to address the advancements high-resolution digital SLR cameras with re-designed optics and use of a new anti-reflection lens coating called SWC (Sub-Wavelength Structure Coating) to minimize ghosting and flare. Features such as dustproof and waterproof construction that have been adopted make this a high-performance lens with specifications that respond to the demands of professional users. A welcome complement to the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera, the EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens is scheduled to be in stores this December at an estimated retail price of $1,699v
· 35mm full-frame CMOS sensor with 21.1 megapixels
· Live View movies in Full High Definition (industry first)
· Live View shooting (AF mode: Quick, Live, Live Face Detection)
· DiG!C 4 Image Processor
· ISO speed range 100-6400 (expandable to 50-25600) (Canon first)
· 3.9 frames per second (fps) with continuous shooting up to 78 shots in a single burst
· Newly designed, high-performance viewfinder (viewfinder coverage 98%)
· 3-inch, fine detail LCD monitor (920,000 dots, VGA)
Sydney, 17 September 2008: Canon Australia today announced the highly-anticipated EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera, successor to Canon’s acclaimed EOS 5D. The new model sets the benchmark in full-frame Digital SLR cameras and is perfect for enthusiasts and professional photographers seeking unrivalled image quality and high performance.
The EOS 5D Mark II boasts a range of new features, enabling users to take their photography to unprecedented levels, including Live View movies in Full High Definition (HD) and increased ISO capabilities to an incredible range of 50-25600.
Packed with Canon’s core technologies, the EOS 5D Mark II ensures Canon users continue to achieve the superior quality and creative control that they have become accustomed to with the popular predecessor model.
“Canon is pleased to announce the new EOS 5D Mark II, developed to push the boundaries of creative photography even further,” states Chris Macleod, Brand Manager – EOS, Consumer Imaging Products Group, Canon Australia. “Canon’s impressive 21.1 megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor, coupled with Live View Movies in Full HD and wider ISO capabilities, enables Canon to continually bring incredible performance to photographers.”
Full Frame for Fine Detail and High Image Quality
Central to the EOS 5D Mark II’s outstanding image quality is its high resolution 35mm full-frame, 21.1 megapixel CMOS sensor. In addition, 14-bit A/D conversion results in finer tonal gradation.
The EOS 5D Mark II offers the widest ISO speed range of any EOS digital camera <http://www.canon.com.au/eos/> , with a standard range of 100-6400, which can be extended to an incredible 50-25600 with ISO expansion (three stops more than its predecessor). Like never before, photographers are now able to capture incredible subject detail in extremely low light conditions. In addition, precise, low noise images can be achieved using the low ISO speeds – a must for professionals and high end enthusiasts who are producing large detailed images.
The EOS 5D Mark II also features Canon’s newly developed DiG!C 4 Image Processor, recently announced in Canon’s new EOS 50D. Building on DiG!C III’s high-speed rendering of fine detail and natural colour reproduction, DiG!C 4 provides even faster signal processing. This detailed processing of large-volume data at extremely high speed satisfies professional demands for exceptional image quality and responsiveness in any shooting situation.
New Features to Expand Shooting Possibilities
The EOS 5D Mark II features Live View movies and boasts an industry first with Full HD recording quality. Canon incorporated this feature in response to photographer’s demands for a camera that could shoot both stills and video in High Definition. In any shooting mode users can capture still photos and movies in Full HD quality or standard TV quality (VGA), making this the ideal camera for photographers who need to efficiently capture stills and movies without compromising on quality.
Like other Canon DSLR models, the EOS 5D Mark II features Live View shooting with Auto Focus capabilities. This allows photographers to preview images in real time on the 3.0-inch VGA LCD monitor with 920,000 dots for greater flexibility and creative composition. Similar to the recently announced EOS 50D, the EOS 5D Mark II also features live Face Detection mode in Live View shooting. By distinguishing human faces in each shot and adjusting the focus and exposure accordingly, Live Face Detection allows photographers to ensure their subjects are captured clearly and accurately.
Compatible with Canon’s range of EF lenses (excluding EF-S lenses), the EOS 5D Mark II is the camera for serious enthusiasts and professional photographers who to take their photography further with no limitations.
Canon Launches New High-Performance Wide Angle Lens
To support its extensive EOS system, Canon has also announced a new high-grade, fast, wide angle lens for professional photographers, the EF24mm f/1.4L II USM (successor to the EF24mm f/1.4L USM). The new lens is the brightest large diameter f/1.4 high-performance wide-angle L lens in the 24mm class. Improvements have been made in the periphery area of the lens, a requirement brought about from the rapid advancement of high resolution sensors available in EOS DSLRs. The circular aperture in the new EF24mm f/1.4L II USM produces beautiful blur effects and the also offers high resistance to dust and water droplets.
The Perfect DSLR Companion – the PowerShot G10
Canon also welcomed the PowerShot G10 to its second half 2008 line-up. Incorporating DSLR capabilities into a compact body, the PowerShot G10 makes the ideal companion to the EOS 5D Mark II. An upgrade from the highly acclaimed G9, the PowerShot G10 features Canon’s new DiG!C 4 Image Processor, new 28mm wide lens and increased megapixels while retaining the prized RAW format mode. Canon’s PowerShot G10 will impress professionals or photo enthusiasts looking to support their DSLR gear with a more portable option.
The EOS 5D Mark II body will be available in Body Only (RRP TBC), and as a Premium Kit with the EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM Lens (RRP $TBC). These kits will all be available from December 2008 through Canon dealers nationally. For more information customers can contact Canon on 1800 021 167, or visit the website at canon.com.au.
|List price, (body only)||US: $ 2,699, EU: € 2,499, UK: £ 2,299|
|List price, (EF 24-105 L kit)||US: $ 3,499, EU: € 3,299, UK: £ 3,049|
|Body material||Magnesium alloy|
|Sensor *||36 x 24 mm CMOS sensor, Full 35 mm size frame, RGB colour Filter Array, Built-in fixed low-pass filter (with self-cleaning unit), 22.0 million total pixels, 21.1 million effective pixels, 3:2 aspect ratio|
|Lenses||Canon EF lens mount (does not support EF-S lenses), No field of view crop (1.0x)|
|Dust reduction||“EOS Integrated Cleaning System”, Self-cleaning sensor unit (filter in front of sensor vibrates at high frequency at start-up and shutdown – can be disabled), Dust Delete Data – Data from a test shot is used to ‘map’ dust spots and can be later removed using Canon DPP Software|
|Image processor *||DIGIC 4|
|A/D conversion||14 bit|
|Image sizes (JPEG) *||5616 x 3744 (21.0 MP), 4080 x 2720 (11.1 MP), 2784 x 1856 (5.2 MP)|
|Image sizes (RAW) *||5616 x 3744 (21.0 MP), 3861 x 2574 (10.0 MP), 2784 x 1856 (5.2 MP)|
|File formats *||RAW (.CR2; 14-bit) , JPEG (EXIF 2.21) – Fine / Normal , RAW + JPEG (separate files), sRAW1, sRAW2 (see above) *|
|Auto focus||9-point TTL CMOS sensor , 6 “Invisible Assist AF points”, All points cross-type for lenses of F5.6 or faster, Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster, AF working range: -0.5 – 18 EV (at 23°C, ISO 100)|
|Focus modes||One shot AF, AI Servo AF, AI Focus AF, Manual focus|
|AF micro adjustment *||Adjust all lenses by same amount (effectively body adjustment), Adjust up to 20 lenses individually|
|AF point selection||Auto, Manual|
|Predictive AF||As close as 8 m (with 300 mm F2.8L lens at 50 kph)|
|AF assist||No (only with external flash)|
|Metering||TTL full aperture metering 35 zone SPC, Metering range: 1.0 – 20 EV|
|Metering modes||Evaluative 35 zone (linked to any AF point), Partial (8% at center), Spot metering (approx. 3.5% at center), Center-weighted average|
|AE lock||Auto: One Shot AF with evaluative metering, Manual: AE lock button|
|Exposure compensation||+/-2.0 EV, 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments|
|Exposure bracketing||+/- 2.0 EV, 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments|
|Sensitivity *||ISO 100 – 6400, 0.3 or 1.0 EV increments , Auto ISO (100-3200), Expansion options:, ISO 50 (L1) , ISO 12800 (H1), ISO 25600 (H2)|
|Shutter||Focal-plane shutter, 150,000 exposure durability, 30 – 1/8000 sec, 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments, Flash X-Sync: 1/200 sec , Bulb|
|Aperture values||F1.0 – F91, 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments , Actual aperture range depends on lens used|
|White balance||Auto, Daylight , Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, Fluorescent, Flash, Custom, Kelvin (2500 – 10000 K in 100 K steps)|
|WB bracketing||+/-3 levels, 3 images, Blue / Amber or Magenta / Green bias|
|WB shift||Blue (-9) To Amber (+9), Magenta (-9) to Green (+9)|
|Picture style||Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, Faithful, Monochrome, User def. 1 , User def. 2, User def. 3|
|Custom image parameters||Sharpness: 0 to 7, Contrast: -4 to +4, Saturation: -4 to +4, colour tone: -4 to +4, B&W filter: N, Ye, Or, R, G, B&W tone: N, S, B, P, G|
|Image processing options *||Highlight tone priority, Auto lighting optimizer (4 settings), Long exposure noise reduction, High ISO noise reduction (4 settings), Auto correction of lens peripheral illumination (vignetting),|
|colour space||sRGB, Adobe RGB|
|Viewfinder *||Eye-level pentaprism, 98% frame coverage, Magnification: 0.71x (-1 diopter with 50 mm lens at infinity), Eyepoint: Approx. 21 mm, Interchangeable focusing screen (3 other types optional), Dioptric adjustment: -3.0 to +1.0 diopter|
|Mirror||Quick-return half mirror (transmission:reflection ratio 40:60), Mirror lock-up (once or multiple exposures)|
|Viewfinder info *||AF information:, AF points, Focus confirmation light, Exposure information:, Shutter speed, Aperture value, ISO speed (always displayed), AE lock, Exposure level/compensation, Spot metering circle, Exposure warning, AEB, Flash information:, Flash ready, High-speed sync, FE lock, Flash exposure compensation, Image information:, White balance correction, CF card information, Monochrome shooting, Maximum burst (2 digit display), Highlight tone priority (D+)|
|LCD monitor *||3.0 ” TFT LCD, 920,000 pixels, Automatic 3 level brightness adjustment plus 7 manual levels, 170 ° viewing angle, Dual anti-reflection (‘Clear View’)|
|LCD Live view *||Live TTL display of scene from CMOS image sensor, 100% frame coverage, 30 fps, Real-time evaluative metering using CMOS image sensor, Best view or exposure simulation, Silent mode, Grid optional (x2), Magnify optional (5x or 10x at AF point), Three AF modes – Live mode / Quick mode / Face Detection, Live histogram (Luminance or RGB), Remote live view using EOS Utility 2.0 (via USB or WiFi/Ethernet using WFT)|
|Movie recording *||Available optionally during Live view mode, 1920 x 1080 (16:9) up to 12 mins (Quicktime 1080p H.264; 38.6 Mbits/sec), 640 x 480 (4:3) up to 24 mins (Quicktime 480p H.264; 17.3 Mbits/sec), Max file size 4 GB, Quicktime MOV format (H.264 video, PCM sound), 30 fps,|
|Record review||Off, On (histogram via INFO button), Display mode same as last used Play mode , 2 / 4 / 8 sec / Hold|
|Playback modes||1. Single image with exposure, file number, storage slot , 2. As 1 but also image count and quality, 3. Detailed exposure information, thumbnail and luminance histogram, 4. Less detailed exposure info., thumbnail, luminance and RGB histograms,|
|Playback features||Optional blinking highlight alert, Optional AF point display, Magnified view (up to 10x) , 2×2 or 3×3 thumbnail index, Jump (by 1, 10, 100 images, screen, date, folder, movies, stills)*, Delete / Protect|
|Flash||No built-in flash unit, E-TTL II auto flash / metered manual , Flash compensation +/-2.0 EV in 0.3 or 0.5 EV increments, X-Sync: 1/200 sec, Hot-shoe & PC Terminal|
|External flash||E-TTL II auto flash with EX-series Speedlites, In-camera flash configuration (currently only 580 EX II), Wireless multi-flash support, PC Sync|
|Shooting modes||Auto, Creative Auto *, Program AE (P), Shutter priority AE (Tv), Aperture priority AE (Av), Manual (M), Custom 1, Custom 2 *, Custom 3 *,|
|Drive modes||Single, Continuous: 3.9 fps * , Self-timer: 2 or 10 sec (2 sec with mirror lock-up)|
|Burst buffer||Large/Fine JPEG: 78 frames (310 with UDMA card) *, RAW: 13 frames *|
|Auto rotation||On (recorded and LCD display), On (recorded only) , Off|
|Custom functions *||25 custom functions with 71 settings in 4 groups|
|Menu languages *||25 Languages, English, German, French, Dutch, Danish, Portuguese, Finnish, Italian, Norwegian, Swedish, Spanish, Greek, Russian, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Turkish, Arabic, Thai, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Korean and Japanese|
|Portrait grip||Optional WFT-E4 (WiFi / LAN / USB mass storage), Optional BG-E6 battery grip|
|Connectivity *||USB 2.0 Hi-Speed, AV out (video & audio *), HDMI connector *, Microphone input *, PC Sync flash terminal, Communication terminal on base for WFT-E4, InfraRed *|
|Storage *||Compact Flash Type I or II (inc. FAT32), Supports UDMA cards *, Copyright metatag support, Canon Original Data Security Kit supported (“Original Image Data”)|
|Power *||Lithium-Ion LP-E6 rechargeable battery (supplied & charger), CR1616 for date & settings, Approx. 850 shots at 20°C, Battery indication 6 levels & percentage (memorized)|
|Dimensions *||152 x 114 x 75 mm (6.0 x 4.5 x 2.9 in)|
|Weight *||No battery: 810 g (1.8 lb)|
|Accessories||Viewfinder: Eyecup Eb, E-series Dioptric Adjustment Lens with Rubber Frame Eb, Eyepiece Extender EP-EX15, Focusing Screens Eg, Angle Finder C, Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E4, Battery Grip BG-E6, All EF lenses (excludes EF-S lenses), Canon Speedlites (220EX, 380EX, 420EX, 430EX, 430EX II, 550EX, 580EX, 580EX II, Macro-Ring-Lite, MR-14EX, Macro Twin Lite MT-24EX, Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2), Remote control with N3 type contact, Wireless Controller LC-5, Remote Controller RC-1, Remote Controller RC-5, Original Data Security Kit OSK-E3|
Items below here are from the old rumours page
16th No camera until the 22nd? In a counter to the widely expected announcement tomorrow, DPIsuggest why it will be next week.
However, I’ve seen peoples’ comments on the structure of the animation, that suggest it won’t run that long. Guess we can all check back tomorrow morning :-)
Photovideo in Norway are saying that they will have a new Canon camera for people to see on the 18th, since their new store opens tomorrow.
Moon shot now shows a bit more of the camera, but still blanked in the same places.
I’ve also heard of a Danish reseller (Kamerashop) removing the 5D from their web listings.
6:30 am here, and in a rare event (for me ;-) I’m off to do some work at this time in the morning. Delays on updates due to patchy net access… but nothing’s been announced yet :-)
15th We’ve moved content around a bit to make space for ‘real’ camera info in the next few days (see above). We’ve still got the 5D specs at the bottom of the page though.
I was also just sent (thanks) a link to a Canon USA publication [PDF] that has an excellent article covering some of the history of the 1D3 AF problems (p4-9).
As an ex electronics engineer and writer of real-time control software, I can well appreciate some of the sentiments expressed. As expected, the article is not being universally well received on forums, but I do personally wonder what proportion of those complaining (especially those not prepared to use their real names ;-) ) have actually used the camera (and yes, I do know several people who’ve not had the best of experiences in dealing with Canon wrt the 1D3) Not that I have the time to set up (or more accurately run/moderate) any forums here, but one rule would be real names only ;-)
A slight change in the Canon moon again and several German sites jump the gun on Zeiss lens availability for EF mount.
21, 50, 85 – info on Lenses pages
We’ve now got the official Zeiss info released, which only mentions the 50 and 85mm lenses.
There is a PDF you can download which includes info on the lenses.
It also includes two of the most anodyne ‘marketing’ interviews I’ve ever read, with two German photographers.
Of more interest to the rumour chasers is the photo of one of the new lenses being used on a 5D+grip… or is it? ;-)
I’d say it’s an existing 5D, with ‘paranoia’ tape over the logo. :-)
Compare it with a rendition of the new 5D MkII that is our current best bet as the real thing.
Note that the camera in our image seems more tilted back than the ‘Moon’ one.
The ‘Moon’ version is showing a bit more detail in the lens, looking distinctly wide.
The prevailing view seems to be that it’s a 24/1.4L II and from some measurements a filter size of 77mm was estimated (same as current 24/1.4).
The blocked out area at the bottom of the camera, has been taken by some to indicate a new grip design.
Some time ago we heard that Canon was looking at incorporating more functionality in the grips, so expect the current wireless technology (and maybe GPS) to be available.
Given the advances in battery technology since the 5D was designed, expect to see changes here too (we’re not expecting fuel cell technology until next year at the earliest though).
This ties in with the French comments recently which include the phrase “Nouvelle batterie avec reconnaissance de l’autonomie”
14th We’ve had quite a few comments regarding the moon flash animation. There was a discussion about its structure and why the final image wouldn’t appear until the 17th on [PF]
We’ve also had confirmation (thanks) that the Calumet info is correct.
The latest moon pic… and those buttons look even more like our 5D Mk2 picture from the 11th
You might also be amused by the fake Chuck Westfall [FCW]
CR also has an American politician holding a camera…
13th (travelling again this weekend – so intermittent updates – thanks for all the mail)
Thanks for all the mail and comments. High ISO performance seems to be a common feature (25600 ISO tops), while the MP count seems more variable (21 and 24 seem most popular). If we do get a 21MP camera, then I’d not be surprised to see a 24MP camera before too long. The 5D replacement specs will certainly encourage a lot of discussion on just what the 1D4 will pack in, and how soon (PMA next year is later – from the 3rd to the 5th of March).
I’ve been asked by quite a few people what I think the camera will be… OK I hate predictions, but today after a pleasant meal and lots of drinks at my parents 50th Wedding aniversary, I’m going to say that I think the camera will be the one we showed on the 11th, it will be called the 5D Mark II, and will have 21MP and a maximum ISO sensitivity of 25600. It will of course have sensor cleaning, live view, the new higher definition screen and 1080 HD video.
The name is quite possibly the 5D MkII since if you look at an advert for Japan Camera magazine you can see that the October issue features the 50D and 5D2.
“Itirou Huzishiro long-awaited long-awaited guest appearance Canon EOS 5D successor EOS 5D MARK II”
One other point to remember is that Canon annoyed a lot of 1D3 owners with their handling of the various AF issues – do they want to repeat this (albeit to a lesser degree) with 1Ds3 owners, by surpassing the camera much quicker than would have been expected. I did have one interesting mail that suggested that Canon will be mounting an agressive marketing campaign directed at Pro users, both to keep them from Nikon’s advances (this has been more successful than Canon had expected) and to offer generous upgrade discounts. Given Canon’s previous history, I’d have been sceptical about this (I still am) but that was before the AF ‘issues’ and Nikon’s pro marketing campaign (not to mention their big potential threat – Sony) The new prime lenses coming and other ‘Pro’ oriented releases may give a clue to this.
Calumet are saying that they will have the new camera in their stores for events on the 4th October [Pic from FM]
General feeling is that the pic is an ‘old’ 5D just as a placeholder
I was sent a link to a 7D image (taken with) on Flkr – oh, and exif details can’t lie, can they ;-) ;-)
A new image has appeared on DPR
Despite the artistic lack of focus you can see the four buttons and tape over the name.
However look more carefully at the lens
‘1.4 L II’
Is this the all new 35/1.4L? (I’m told though, by someone who has both 24 and 35, that it looks more like a 24mm?)
I’ve also had it suggested that the fuzzy picture is a 5D and that the Destined Evolution stuff suggests a 3D. Not long to wait for sure ;-) 05:00 GMT we’ve seen confirmed… It’s also been suggested that the flash shoe on our picture isn’t the new weather sealed type – compare it with the ‘moon’ versions of the camera?
The moon changed again (I’m told it did so at 6am GMT)
In Japan the text includes “The one that goes beyond innovation” … so there, that explains everything :-)
Have a look at the stretched screen shot we’ve produced from a screen grab.
See if you think it looks more like the one we received yesterday?
In particular note the raised areas around the buttons.
The lens is obviously different and the camera is tilted slightly differently in the two pics.
Meanwhile EN in France is saying (updated)
Canon 5D MarkII
CMOS 24×36 24MP
New batterie with autonomy recognition
New grip BG-E 6
Dust removing system
Compatible EF Lenses and EX speedlite
11th Looks as if the leaks are starting
We’ve now got a photo we think is a pretty good one ;-)
We’ve had to stretch the contrast a bit though.
In a side issue – we mentioned the concept of variable ISO for sensors a while ago – we were just sent a link to a PDF describing the process (not a Canon one)
On the Canon Spain site the text in the teaser image now has something like:
“Discover the future of photography …
Stay tuned …
The history of the EOS sensor continues …”
On the Swedish Canon site it’s along the lines of “EOS Story continues – Experience the future of photography – Stay tuned”
Quite a few other sites are now reporting early on the 17th (European time) as the release time.
It’s also been noticed that the 15th coincides with the Japanese Tsukimi holiday (‘moon viewing’) and a full moon.
As to the lens size, I see at DPR people have done some measurements. The small dot in the lens also suggests a wide lens. The 16-35II possibly fits the bill, but the lens info is currently blacked out so maybe something new (a 24-70 that doesn’t extend out so much ?)
There is also a report [POTN] of another FF camera
“…for this end of this year a “D700 like” with the main caracteristics of 5Dmk2 but 15 or 16MPix with 6frames/sec. This one will be sold more or less 2000€”
Rumours from 1st June 2007 to 14th September 2008 are on our 5D2 archive page
Rumours from 1st December 2007 to 30th May 2008 are on our recent archive page
Rumours from before 1st December 2007 are archived on a second archive page.
Rumours about the 5D2 replacement are on the EOS 5D Mark 3 page
|The EOS 5D’s full-frame CMOS sensor records 4,368 x 2,912 pixels-that’s 12.8 Megapixels, larger than many other companies’ top-of-the-line sensors. The same size as a 35mm image on a traditional camera, the sensor operates without a conversion factor. This is perfect for taking advantage of the spectacular optics in Canon’s L-series, and will be a joy for wide-angle enthusiasts who can make the most of their wide-angle lenses. This new CMOS sensor, designed in-house by Canon, provides smooth, high-resolution images similar to the EOS-1Ds Mark II but in a more compact body. Two automatic noise reduction features maximize the effectiveness of the EOS 5D’s on-chip noise reduction. Noise reduction can be activated when noise is detected or it will simply come into play on any exposure of 1 second or longer.
DIGIC II Image Processor 3.0 fps for up to 60 consecutive JPEG or 17 RAW frames in a burst.
The EOS 5D’s new 12.8 Megapixel sensor is driven by the revolutionary DIGIC II Image Processor for unprecedented performance and image quality. Thanks to the DIGIC II Image Processor, the EOS 5D is capable of shooting up to 3 frames-per-second for up to 60 JPEG or 17 RAW images. The information captured by the sensor is processed and assembled into images of exceptional clarity and resolution. Photographers can expect precise, natural colours, spot-on white balance and speed in any number of lighting situations. By handling larger volumes of image data, the DIGIC II Image Processor also contributes to lower power consumption: photographers will discover that they can shoot all day with the EOS 5D without having to change the battery!
Advanced 9-point AF with 6 additional Supplemental points
In addition to 9 different AF points for locking focus on subjects, even if they are not in the center of the composition, the EOS 5D features 6 Supplemental points around the center AF point which help to ensure an even greater degree of focus accuracy when tracking a moving subject. This feature is significant for sports photographers, as well as anyone who needs to keep focus locked on an unpredictable subject. The Supplemental AF points are not displayed in the viewfinder, and they cannot be manually selected. However, they are used in AI Servo AF mode when the EOS 5D is set for automatic focusing point selection, and also when the center focusing point is selected together with Custom Function 17-1.
New high-speed durable shutter
The EOS 5D boasts a newly developed, high-speed and durable shutter unit that was designed to meet the demanding requirements of a full frame sensor in a relatively compact body. With a top shutter speed of 1/8000 sec. and with a remarkable 100,000-cycle shutter life, it truly is a camera built to professional standards.