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17mm t/s lensCanon TS-E 17mm f/4 L

Collection of information and links for Canon's all new TS-E 17mm f/4 L

The Canon TS-E 17mm f/4 L is the widest lens of its type and represents an all new design from Canon.

Tilt and Shift

I'd been waiting for this all new 17mm tilt/shift lens for some time... this page covers pre-release information and technical specifications, such as MTF charts

After it turned up, I carried out a few tests and comparisons. There are some sample photos further down the page, looking at just what you can do with it.

In the few years I've now had this lens, it's become a key part of my architectural photography, along with the new TS-E 24mm mk2

In a 2012 exhibition of local architectural photography it was the most used lens - there are notes indicating which lens I used on the exhibition information page.

If you're unfamiliar with this sort of lens, I've written a lengthy article about using a tilt/shift lens.
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 Information about the TS-E17

Latest TS-E17mm news

2013 May Nearly four years on and the TS-E17 is a staple of my architectural work, images both single and stitched have been part of many projects and exhibitions, such as these two from a look at some of my home city, Leicester

New Walk

New Walk, Leicester

Curve Theatre

Curve, Leicester.

2013 April Test of a specialised TS-E lens mounting bracket for parallax free stitching (17mm and 24mm).

2009 July 17th Our 24mm has turned up - it's raining, so no tests today :-)

4th Test chart info added to links above.

June 24th A quick test of the TS-E 17mm with a 2x teleconverter

A few more sample images - Walking into Leicester

17th More sample images in the blog - Using the TS-E 17 hand held

Here's an evening shot, taken at dusk few days ago. it's the new Curve theatre in Leicester.

leicester, curve at dusk

10th More sample TS-E 17 images below.

9th We've a new article about how to use lens tilt that includes an example using the TS-E17

Earlier items

Using the TS-E 17

A few quick tests outside of the house.

These were made in windy conditions, with rather quickly changing light.

I'm sure the lens is even sharper at f/8 than some of these shots suggest.

I was using a cable release but no MLU, and the shutter speed was relatively low (less than 1/100).

When I get some better looking test files I'll look at including more detailed files for people to look at.

These images have given me a feel for what the lens is like to use when shifted. For tilt I need to do a bit more testing.

If you get one, take care with that lens cap. It won't take much to damage that exposed front element.

The lens has a good solid build and all movements are free without backlash or sticking.

Images are from a 1Ds3, processed in ACR.

ts-e 17 mounted on 1ds3

In particular, I've not applied any sharpening to the images here, so the 100% shots look a bit softer than I'd expect in real use.

Images (here) are JPEGs in sRGB at medium quality.

The view across the street is the same one I've used for doing quick tests of various 3rd party lenses when fitted on the 1Ds3 with an adapter.

A bit of vignetting visible at f/4 - move mouse over image to see at f/8

The top LH corner at f/4 - move mouse over image to see at f/8

Note - I suspect a bit of vibration in the f/8 version - I've another shot at f/8 which looks sharper

Here's the view with the 14mm 2.8L II

view with 14mm lens

Stitching two TS-E17 images gives this. It's 12mm shift each way, and flat stitched in Photoshop CS3

horizontal stitch 17mm shift

Here's the LH corner at full shift

image detail from corner

Stitching vertically (@f/8) gives this. It's the equivalent of a 17mm lens on a 48x36mm sensor.

A 42MP image from my 1Ds3

At full vertical shift with the camera horizontal, there was no overlap of frames, so this is from 3 images stitched together

2 image stich - vertical

When stitching images like this I found that it's important to check focus each time.

I'll have to investigate this further, but it -might- indicate a degree of field curvature that might be important when making very high resolution stitched images.

I'll finish with a quick 100% detail from the top LH corner

image detail

That's it for the quick test today :-) I now have a feel for the lens FOV and its general performance.

Using the lens more seriously...

I took the lens with me when I was on a job in Leicester, and took some hand-held shots on the way, ans some using the tripod later.

The Guild Hall Leicester - circa 1400. The original town hall for Leicester.

(slightly cropped to remove a few bit of building on the RH side and obviously processed to make a decent B/W picture)

Guild Hall Leicester

This on the way back has only had some slight adjustments of brightness etc in ACR

Leicester clock tower at night

Leicester clock tower at night

Some 100% crops (unsharpened - Canon 1DS mk3 1/2 second exp @f/10, ISO 100, 12mm of vertical shift)

leicester dragon top of clock tower

flare from light sources

detail of clock face on Leicester clock tower

The clock maker is Chloride Gent

Here's the old Pex building by the canal (1Ds 3 hand held 125 @f/8 200 ISO) probably ~3mm shift

Land registry Leicester - The Pex building

and an unsharpened 100% crop

wind vane atop Pex building - leicester

Older TS-E 17 'News items'

June 5th Quick tests added above

Our lens turns up from Park Cameras (UK).

I'm just off out on a short job, but will post some images later

Anyway, here's the box...

tse 17 box

...and what was inside.

tse 17mm box contents

It included a small screw and knob.

extra parts

So, withing minutes of getting an expensive lens, the screwdriver is out.

This is the shift knob

original shift knob

Here's the larger version fitted. It's for cameras without a pop-up flash :-)

larger shift knob

A lot of glass - compared to the 14mm 2.8L II

tse 17 compared to 14mm

Two big lens caps

tse17 lens cap

Now of to do a quick bit of work. I'll post some images later today

4th Our 17mm lens is on its way and I'm told that Park Cameras (UK only) has -one- left in stock (@lunchtime)

May 28th 3 lenses turn up in Austria, and there are sample images posted in this DPR thread.

The lens looks very good :-)

May 20th Early June is the best estimate we're getting at the moment for delivery - however Canon are being a little obscure in giving dealers any hard info...

4th Few people getting to look at one yet, but one comment on LL looks good:
"The 17 displayed absolutely straight lines, absence of vignetting and very little CA, even shifted the full 12 mm. The construction & finish also were of a much higher standard than the previous TSE lenses."

April 30th We've kindly been sent some TSE-17 sample images which show it's going to be a pretty good lens.

A full res. sample of another image shows that whilst (unshifted) it's slightly softer in the corners, there is no sign of CA. Now I'm really looking forward to trying the 17mm and 24mm.

I'll include a sample here courtesy of Edgard Marques in Spain.

There are more examples on his photography blog.

TSE-17 sample image

29th A sighting of the new TSE lenses and a description of their performance (no pics) in a DPR post.

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March 1st

There are some further publications from Canon describing features of the new lenses.

Also from the Canon TSE article above, the diagram shows just how much improvement of the image circle is offered with the new lenses.

17mm t/s lens

tse image circle

February 27th A useful LL article on understanding more about the MTF graphs below... (see also info for the 24mm)

26th Feb More Canon CPN info on the new T/S lenses

From Canon Japan, we have MTF charts that show just how good the lens should be at f/8

tse 17 mtf

tse 17 mtf info

A lot of elements inside this lens

tse 17 lens construction

More info to come

The new 17mm is a first, and that's a big lump of glass on the front.

The US press release points to a May shipping date at US$2499 and CDN$2999.99. The UK one says

The TS-E 17mm f/4L is available from May 2009 priced at £2749.99 / €3049.99 RRP inc. VAT.

The TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II is available from May 2009 priced at £2399.99 / €2659.99 RRP inc. VAT.

Accvording to Canon Germany, they are ready in April and it's 2399 euro for the 17mm and 2099 euro for the 24mm, and that's including 19% VAT - quite a bit less than the prices in the UK press release.

The new design allows fully independent movement of tilt/shift axes, so no longer any need to modify your lenses as we illustrated with a TS-E90 modification.

+/- 6.5° Tilt and +/-12mm Shift

MTF Chart

MTF chart for 17mm

Sample image - from Canon

sample tse 17 image

TS-E 17mm f/4 L

TS-E 17mm f/4 L

A top down view of the lens

TS-E17 tilt shift lens

17mm TSE lens mounted on 5D2

Some pricing info puts this lens at some 2500 euros

tse 17 price

According to a German online dealer the lens will be available in April

CANON U.S.A. EXPANDS ITS LENS PORTFOLIO WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF TWO NEW WIDE-ANGLE TILT-SHIFT LENSES

Canon Introduces the New TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L Tilt-Shift Lenses

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., February 17, 2009 – Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging and optics, today introduced two new Tilt-Shift lenses, the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L. These two new L series lenses expand the Company's extensive lens line-up of TS-E lenses giving photographers creative control over perspective and depth of field in their images. Both the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L are specialty lenses ideal for landscape and architectural photography and are compatible with all Canon EOS system single lens reflex cameras1. The TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II, a replacement for Canon's TS-E 24mm f/3.5L introduced in 1991, has significantly improved operability with low distortion when photographing buildings, consistent image quality throughout the image and reduced chromatic aberration when shooting at ultra-wide angles. The TS-E 17mm f/4L is the world's shortest focal length Tilt-Shift lens with full-frame 35mm coverage.

"These two new lenses are Canon's answer to photographers who have requested wider angle Tilt-Shift lenses, with the new TS-E 24mm for wide angles and the all new TS-E 17mm for ultra-wide angles. We continually seek to expand our optics portfolio to meet the demands of our photographers to ensure that they have the best tools available to capture some of the most stunning images on the planet," stated Yuichi Ishizuka, senior vice president and general manager, Consumer Imaging Group, Canon U.S.A.

An innovative feature on both the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L lenses is Canon's new TS Revolving System. This feature allows tilting and shifting lens movements to be adjusted in parallel or at right angles to each other, with detents at 45˚ intervals. Additionally, once the TS Revolving System has been set, the orientation of the entire lens can be rotated freely through a range of ±90˚, with detents at 30˚ intervals. The amount of tilt is ±8.5˚ for the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and ±6.5˚ for the TS-E 17mm f/4L. The amount of shift is ±12mm for both lenses. The image circle diameter for both lenses is an impressive 67.2mm. (The diagonal measurement of the full-frame 35mm format is only 43.2mm.)

The high-precision glass molded aspherical and UD glass lens elements and accurate aspherical GMo along with a large diameter in new TS-E lenses deliver outstanding image quality, high resolution and super-low distortion to all edges of the image. Each lens incorporates a new type of anti-reflection coating, Canon's SubWavelength structure Coating (SWC) that continuously changes the refractive index on the lens surface via wedge-shaped structures more minute than wavelength of visible light. Canon's SWC helps minimize flare and ghosting caused by bright light from large angles of incidence. The new TS-E lenses are the 2nd and 3rd Canon EF series lenses with SWC, following the EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM that was introduced in 2008.

Pricing and Availability
The TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II is expected to ship in May for an estimated retail price of $2,199.00*. The TS-E 17mm f/4L is expected to ship in May for an estimated retail price of $2,499.00*.

About Canon U.S.A., Inc.
Canon U.S.A., Inc., is a leading provider of consumer, business-to-business, and industrial digital imaging solutions. Its parent company, Canon Inc. (NYSE:CAJ), a top patent holder of technology, ranked third overall in the U.S. in 2008†, with global revenues of US $45 billion, is listed as number seven in the computer industry on Fortune Magazine's World's Most Admired Companies 2008 list, and is on the 2008 BusinessWeek list of "Top 100 Brands." At Canon, we care because caring is essential to living together in harmony. Founded upon a corporate philosophy of Kyosei – "all people, regardless of race, religion or culture, harmoniously living and working together into the future" – Canon U.S.A. supports a number of social, youth, educational and other programs, including environmental and recycling initiatives. Additional information about these programs can be found at www.usa.canon.com/kyosei. To keep apprised of the latest news from Canon U.S.A., sign up for the Company's RSS news feed by visiting www.usa.canon.com/rss.


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† Based on weekly patent counts issued by the United States Patent and Trademark Office

* Prices are estimated retail prices. Actual selling prices are set by dealers and may vary.

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Prices, specifications and availability are subject to change without notice.
1 To prevent the knobs on TS-E lenses from coming into contact with the camera during tilt/shift/revolving/TS revolving movements, the use of EOS-1 class or EOS 5D/5D Mark II cameras is recommended.

UK Press release

Canon strengthens tilt & shift range with two new additions
Canon launches ultra-wide angle 17mm tilt and shift lens – the world’s widest in 35mm format photography
New 24mm tilt and shift lens offers largest range of movement available

Hi-res versions of the images can be downloaded from http://www.canon.co.uk/press_centre <http://www.canon.co.uk/press_centre>

United Kingdom / Republic of Ireland, 18 February, 2009: Canon today announces the launch of two new tilt and shift lenses, the Ultra-Wide angle
TS-E 17mm f/4L and the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II, an upgrade to the popular TS-E 24mm f/3.5L.

At 17mm, the TS-E 17mm f/4L has the widest view angle of any tilt and shift lens currently available; coupled with outstanding image quality across the whole frame, it is an ideal choice for architectural or landscape photography. Building on the success of its predecessor, the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II, like the
TS-E 17mm f/4L, now includes Canon’s sub-wavelength structure coating (SWC). Canon’s patented lens coating is specifically designed to minimise ghosting and flare caused by internal reflections to help deliver crisp, clear images.

Canon was the first company to offer 35mm camera users a combined tilt and shift lens, With 36 years experience in this field, Canon has now added a new unique functionality to the TS-E 17mm f/4L and TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II, allowing users to rotate the direction of the tilt and shift independently of each other. This affords greater control over the focal plane, replicating the movements of a large format view camera. Canon’s revolutionary tilt and shift revolving mechanism is particularly useful when shooting product shots from a perspective where specific framing and focal plane is required.

The new lenses, influenced by feedback from professional photographers, have been created to produce the best image quality with high resolution, high contrast and low distortion. The use of high-precision asphercial front elements keeps distortion, common in wide angle lenses, to an absolute minimum, even at the edges of the frame. The TS-E 17mm f/4L and TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II also feature multiple UD elements to reduce chromatic aberration and optimised focus mechanisms.

Canon today has also introduced a new range (52mm to 72mm) of versatile, multi-functional PL-C B polarizing filters to help reduce reflections from glass or water or darken blue skies. The PL-C B’s, which are now available in 52mm, 58mm, 67mm, 72mm, 77mm and 82mm filter thread sizes, also allows the lens cap to be attached to the lens to prevent damage to the filter if left attached when not in use.

Key features of the TS-E 17mm f/4L and TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II include:
Tilt and shift lenses compatible with all Canon EOS cameras
Ultra Wide 17mm / wide 24mm focal length, ideal for architecture and landscapes
High precision lens elements for low distortion and high resolution to the edge of the image
± 6.5° Tilt and ±12mm Shift (TS-E 17mm f/4L) ± 8.5° Tilt and ±12mm Shift
(TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II)
Tilt and shift mechanism rotates +/-90° allowing shift in any direction
Tilt mechanism rotates +/-90° allowing tilt in any direction relative to the shift
Aspherical and UD lens elements minimise chromatic aberration
Sub-wavelength structure and super-spectra coatings minimise ghosting and flare
Circular aperture for creative, blurred highlights
TS-E 17mm f/4L has a floating internal focus mechanism delivers high image quality throughout focus range.

Pricing and Availability:

The TS-E 17mm f/4L is available from May 2009 priced at £2749.99 / €3049.99 RRP inc. VAT.

The TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II is available from May 2009 priced at £2399.99 / €2659.99 RRP inc. VAT.

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