Canon 1D MkV (1D5/1DV)

Canon 1D mark 5 rumours

14th October - 2011

Our collected information about the new 1 series camera that follows the 1D mk4.

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2011 October

• 14th In what I'm genuinely surprised to see, it seems quite likely [CR] that the 1D and 1Ds lines are being amalgamated into a single camera...
• -1D/1Ds follow on (no name yet)
• -Full Frame 18MP, 12 fps, 61 AF Points
• -New Battery, Available - March, Price unknown
  • Well, if true, it looks as if my bank account is safe for the time being, unless there is something pretty special about those 18MP ;-)
• 11th A lot more 'One series' rumours appearing
  • ...nothing (IMHO) of much consequence though.
• A 'full frame' 16-20MP 1D5 is suggested at CR, but what about the largely discontinued 1Ds3?
  • Is Canon really happy to have it's flagship FF DSLR at less MP than the 5D2? I'm still inclined to look at the Canon DSLR timeline below for some hints as to what needs updating ;-)
• 6th An 18MP full frame 14fps 1D5 is suggested for release on the 18th [via 1k1]

August

• 17th Another specs lists appears at CR
  • Another one that puts APS-C crop pixels at 1/1.6 the FF value - doh!
• 8th Lots more somewhat variable specs lists appearing at CR.
• • I note that the creator of these particular specs hadn't realised that pixel numbers for FF are around 2.6 times APS-C numbers for the same sensor design.
  • I've still had nothing seriously suggesting a 1Ds/1D merger at this time.

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• 6th Some very detailed specs are published at CR.
• It suggests that the 1D and 1Ds lines will be merged into a 1D Mark V.
• The 1Ds line will be superceded by a more studio oriented camera with a new designation (When?)
• Highlight specs: 32.2MP, Full frame (35mm), ISO to 102k, 9.1 FPS, Digic V (just the one...)
  • So, I wonder... How do you announce this and 'sell' it to current 1Ds3 or 1D4 users?
  • Nope, another wish list IMHO.

July

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  12th Another 1Dv/merger thread [CR]
• Mid September release?
  • Nope, still don't quite buy this one :-)
  • Do you try and sell it at the 1D price point or the 1Ds price point?

June

• 1st 'End of APS-H' 1Ds/1D merger stuff [CR]
• See the timeline below for one of the best guides to what to expect and when ;-)

May

• 2nd At CR there are suggestions that the 1D/1Ds merger may be 'sooner than expected'.
  • We've had no serious 'unification' rumours for several years, and indeed several suggesting that the differing needs of typical 1D and 1Ds series users meant that the two model approach was likely to continue for some time yet.

April

• 7th FF 1D mkV @28MP by the Autumn... [DPR]

January

• 13th Whilst we get a comment to expect the 1Ds4 announcement in 'late Spring', at CR they are suggesting a 1D5 to unify the 1D line, with the 5D3 moving 'upmarket'.
• 12th Ever since the 1D Mk2n there are, a year or two into its life, suggestions of an 'n' variant of a camera.
• This time a suggestion [CR] is that a 'video free' version would be produced to alleviate some problems with sports photographers and video rights at events.
  • Just how real this problem is with some of Canon's big customers and whether it would ever be worth producing a 'non-video' version is unclear...

2010 December

• 16th There is a suggestion [CR] that a full frame 1D5 could appear next year. That would make the 1D4 rather short lived, although I've seen it suggested that the 1D4 was moved forward from an early 2010 release after the 'focus issues' with the 1D3.
  • Replacements for the 1D4, 1Ds3 and 5D2 next year would also make for a lot of announcements - perhaps enough to take some of the light of publicity off a Nikon D4?
• 11th The 1D4 is now well over a year old and there is still no sign of a 1Ds4. Whilst we've had several comments suggesting that the tight 1D/1Ds model coupling is to be broken with new models, there are no solid rumours yet.

May

• 3rd No sign of 1Ds4 yet, so a 36 month cycle - as before?

	Sensor	2000				2001				2002				2003				2004				2005				2006				2007				2008				2009				2010				2011				2012
		1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4	1	2	3	4
Flagship	Full												1Ds							1Ds Mk II												1Ds Mk III																	1Dx
	APS-H							1D										1D Mk II							1D Mk II N					1D Mk III											1D Mk IV
High	Full																							5D												5D Mk II
	APS-C																																							7D
'Better'			D30							D60				10D						20D						30D						40D				50D								60D
Mid																300D Digital Rebel Kiss Digital						350D Digital Rebel XT Kiss Digital N						400D Digital Rebel XTi Kiss Digital X						450D Rebel XSi Kiss X2				500D Rebel T1i Kiss X3				550D Rebel T2i Kiss X4				600D Rebel T3i
Entry																																			1000D Rebel XS Kiss F											1100D Rebel T3

Video capable | Digic | Digic 2 | Digic 3 dual | Digic 4 dual | Digic 5 dual

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2010 February

• 22nd Some suggest the 1Ds4 is due tomorrow - putting the 1 series on a 30 month update, so Feb 2012 for the 21MP 1D5?

2009 October

• 21st There is a lot in the 1D4, with 16Mp, video and a new AF system, but some are already saying 'is that it?'... [DPR]
  • Not a view I share personally...
• 20th It's a 1D4, so time to return this page to obscurity for a few years? ;-)
• 19th Until we know the name of any new model - I'll put updates on the 1D4 page
• 18th A report from the US (thanks) about a large dealer asking if someone wanted to be put on the 1DV waiting list.
• How do you explain (excluding reasons of superstition) missing out 1D mark IV ? - Video. The camera will have to contain the best video performance in an EOS camera.
• We know that Canon was genuinely surprised at just how well the 5D2 video features were taken up and has (so we were told) had several big re-arrangements of staff and organisational structures.
  • I'm personally waiting for the next 1Ds, but have long expected extremely good video in the updates to the 1 series. We've had comments (no details I'm afraid) about an expanded range of special video oriented accessories to be added to the 1D range - not long to wait and see :-)
• Check the 1D Mk4 rumours page for our full rumour history for this camera.

September

• 11th Lots of people suggesting that there will be a Mark IV announced at the end of this month.
• Quite a few still suggesting that the numbers will jump from four to five, however this assumes a reticence to use the number '4' due to it's 'unlucky' nature in some far eastern cultures.
• Official Canon info tends to use terms like Mark III - Roman numerals, so a 1Dmk4 is not what you'll see from Canon, but a 1D Mark IV might well be.

2009 July

• 20th We're told from one of our sources to expect a 1D MkV - possibly skipping v4 to indicate a big jump
• Yesterday a new comment we've received, said that the 1D4 will be 12fps/16MP and 1.3 crop, with better video than the 5D2.

Model	Announced	Effective pixels	Sensor size	Continuous High (JPEG)	LCD monitor
EOS-1D	Sep 2001	4.2 mp	1.3x crop	8.0 fps, 21 frames	2.0"
EOS-1Ds	Sep 2002	11.1 mp	Full frame	3.0 fps, 10 frames	2.0"
EOS-1D Mark II	Jan 2004	8.2 mp	1.3x crop	8.3 fps, 40 frames	2.0"
EOS-1Ds Mark II	Sep 2004	16.7 mp	Full frame	4.0 fps, 32 images	2.0"
EOS-1D Mark II N	Aug 2005	8.2 mp	1.3x crop	8.3 fps, 48 images	2.5"
EOS-1D Mark III	Feb 2007	10.1 mp	1.3x crop	10.0 fps, 110 images	3.0" (Live view)
EOS-1Ds Mark III	Aug 2007	21.1 mp	Full frame	5.0 fps, 56 images	3.0" (Live view)

We actually have a page dating from the last update, which details the 1D2 to 1D2N differences.

1D3/1D4 comparison

	Canon EOS-1D Mark IV	Canon EOS-1D Mark III
Sensor	16.1 million total pixels 27.9 x 18.6mm	10.7 million total pixels 27.9 x 18.6mm
Image processor	Dual DIGIC IV	Dual DIGIC III
A/D converter	14-bit	14-bit
Image sizes	4896 x 3264 4320 x 2880 3552 x 2368 2448 x 1632	3888 x 2592 3456 x 2304 2816 x 1880 1936 x 1288
RAW files	CR2 format, 14-bit RAW full resolution mRAW (9.0 MP) sRAW (4.0 MP)	CR2 format, 14-bit RAW full resolution sRAW (7.6 MP)
Auto focus	45-point TTL CMOS sensor 39 cross-type for F2.8 or faster lenses	19-point TTL CMOS sensor 19 cross-type for F4 or faster lens 26 non-selectable assist points
Noise reduction	Four levels of High ISO NR	High ISO NR On/Off
Movie mode	1920x1080 at 30, 25 or 24 fps 1280x720 at 60 or 50 fps 640x480 at 60 or 50 fps	None
LCD monitor	3.0" TFT LCD 920,000 pixels 7 brightness levels	2.0" TFT LCD 230,000 pixels 5 brightness levels
Continuous shooting	10.0 fps Up to 121 JPEG Large/Fine images Up to 28 RAW images Up to 20 RAW+ Large/Fine JPEG images (Figures are with UMDA 6 card)	10.0 fps Up to 110 JPEG Large/Fine images Up to 30 RAW images Up to 22 RAW+ Large/Fine JPEG images
Custom functions	62	57
Storage	Compact Flash slot (UDMA support) SD card slot (SDHC support) USB drives via WFT-E2/E2A	Compact Flash slot SD card slot (SDHC support) USB drives via WFT-E2/E2A
Dimensions	156 x 157 x 80 mm (6.1 x 6.2 x 3.1 in)	156 x 157 x 80 mm (6.1 x 6.2 x 3.1 in)
Weight	No battery: 1.2 kg (2.6 lb) With battery: 1.4 kg (3.1 lb)	No battery: 1.2 kg (2.6 lb) With battery: 1.4 kg (3.1 lb)

The original 1D Mk4

US Info (from Canon)

Offering a comprehensive combination of speed, accuracy and image quality, the EOS-1D Mark IV is the perfect choice for professional photographers and subjects on the move.

With a completely redesigned 45-point AF system including 39 cross-type points, a new AI Servo II AF focus tracking system with improved algorithm combined with 10 fps continuous shooting, the EOS-1D Mark IV can handle even high-speed situations with ease.

An APS-H sized 16.1 Megapixel CMOS Sensor, Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors, a spectacular ISO range of 100 - 12800 (up to 102400 in H3 mode) with an advanced noise reduction system helps ensure sharp, low-noise images even in low-light situations.

Add advanced Live View shooting, Full HD movie recording with selectable frame rates and manual exposure control plus a host of new features that enhance every facet of the shooting process.

The EOS-1D Mark IV is the choice of professionals looking for the ultimate in SLR performance.

Features

New 45-point Area AF sensor including 39 cross-type AF points with f/2.8 support plus new AI Servo II AF with improved algorithm.

ISO 100 - 12800 (expandable to L: 50, H1: 25600, H2: 51200, H3: 102400) for shooting from bright to dim light with low noise levels.

EOS HD movie with manual exposure control and multiple frame rates (1080: 30p (29.97) / 24p (23.976) / 25p, 720: 60p (59.94) / 50p, 480: 60p (59.94) / 50p).

16.1 Megapixel APS-H CMOS sensor and Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors for high image quality and speed.

10.0 fps continuous shooting up to 121 Large JPEGS or 28 RAW using a UDMA CF card.

3.0-inch ClearView II LCD monitor, 160° viewing angle, 920,000-dot VGA, reflection resistance with multi coating and high-transparency materials for bright and clear viewing.

Magnesium alloy body with shutter durability up to 300,000 cycles and exclusive dust- and weather-resistance.

Fully compatible with over 50 EF lenses and a wide range of EOS System accessories.

Professionally Proven, High-Speed AF.

New 45-point Area AF sensor including 39 cross-type AF points with f/2.8 support plus new AI Servo II AF with improved algorithm.

The EOS-1D Mark IV has a newly developed, high-precision Area AF sensor with 45 manually selectable points including 39 cross-type, high-precision AF points for exacting and fast focusing no matter the subject. New AI Servo II AF focus tracking features improved algorithms that help improve stability, reliability and focus no matter the situation.

Whether shooting a fast-paced soccer game or shooting a close-up of a bee on a wind-blown flower during macro photography, AI Servo II AF helps ensure sharp focus every time. AF point selection has been improved as well.

Photographers can select their own point through either the camera’s Multi-controller or Main Dial/Quick Control Dial. Automatic selection is as simple as the press of a button.

With Custom functions, photographers can select their own default focus point to automatically switch between horizontal and vertical shooting and can even choose to have primary focus supported by adjacent focus points for more accuracy with moving subjects.

The original EOS 1DMk3

UK PR Canon today sets new standards for professional photography with the launch of the EOS-1D Mark III. Delivering 10 frames per second at 10.1 Megapixels for a maximum burst of 110 Large JPEG images (30 in RAW), the EOS-1D Mark III replaces the EOS-1D Mark II N as the world’s fastest digital SLR. Dual “DIGIC III” processors drive the camera’s high speed, high resolution performance, and bring 14-bit image processing to the EOS series for the first time. A ground-up redesign introduces a host of new features and advancements to Canon’s flagship EOS-1 series, including a 3.0” LCD with Live View mode, EOS Integrated Cleaning System, new auto focus system with 19 cross-type sensors, and 63-zone exposure metering. The camera’s APS-H size (28.1 x 18.7 mm) CMOS sensor enables a wider 100-3200 ISO range as standard, expandable to L:50 and H:6400. “The EOS-1D Mark III represents a complete reappraisal of everything Canon has learned over the past 20 years of EOS development,” said Tsunemasa Ohara, Senior General Manager, Camera Development Center, Canon Inc. “In building this camera, we started with a blank canvas. Every facet of the photographic process has been refined, every design decision re-evaluated to bring us to this point: a camera that combines familiar EOS ergonomics with a vastly enhanced specification. Our engineers are overjoyed with the result.” Key features 10.1 Megapixel APS-H CMOS sensor 10 fps continuous shooting for up to 110 frames Dual “DIGIC III” processors New auto focus system with 19 cross type sensors EOS Integrated Cleaning System ISO 3200 (expandable to H:6400) 3.0” LCD with Live View mode Wider, brighter viewfinder Picture Style1 The choice of professionals The EOS-1D line has enjoyed massive popularity among the world’s leading sports, reportage and wildlife photographers, with international wire agencies AFP, Getty and Reuters choosing Canon for their photographers. “The people at Canon is great to work with because they listen to photographers. It’s their attention to detail and the pace of innovation that makes EOS the system of choice,” explained Stephen Munday, Director of Operations – Editorial, Getty Images. Exceptional image quality Canon’s dual “DIGIC III” processors deliver unprecedented levels of speed, responsiveness and image quality. Ready to shoot within 0.2 seconds of power on, the EOS-1D Mark III can capture and process over 100 Megapixels of image data per second, rapidly clearing the image buffer to allow up to 110 frames in one burst. Images are processed at 14 bits for a total colour depth of up to 16,384 tones per pixel, compared to 4,096 tones from 12 bit images. The third generation CMOS sensor incorporates a new pixel design that works together with on-chip noise reduction circuitry to ensure high image quality at ISO 3200. The option to expand to H:6400 will benefit professionals working in news and sports locations where the use of flash is not permitted or desired. Greater precision, more control Canon has redesigned its auto focus system to include 19 cross-type sensors with sensitivity up to f/2.8, spread out across the AF area to better accommodate off-centre subjects. An additional 26 AF assist points are used to aid AF tracking for improved accuracy. Responding to professional photographer requests, a dedicated AF button on the back of the camera allows users to instantly switch auto focus on or off while keeping their eye on the viewfinder. The viewfinder is now brighter and offers a wider angle of view. The camera’s new 63-zone metering system gives photographers greater level of control over exposure. New LCD with Live View The bright 3.0” LCD monitor provides 230K pixels resolution for precise framing and reviewing of shots. New to EOS, Live View mode enables photographers to frame without having to look through the viewfinder – particularly useful for shooting from awkward positions. The menu system on the EOS-1D Mark III has been completely redesigned to take advantage of the LCD size – menus are easier to read and use. A choice of 57 custom functions gives photographers more options for customising camera settings to their daily working requirements. A new My Menu option allows photographers to store frequently used settings on a separate menu for faster access. Settings for new accessories such as the Speedlite 580EX II and Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E2 – also released today – can be controlled directly from the LCD. Total reliability The EOS-1D Mark III incorporates a range of practical enhancements for the working photographer. Shutter durability has been increased by 50% to 300,000 cycles. The body is protected by a magnesium alloy casing with dust and moisture resistant seals. The EOS Integrated Cleaning System provides further reliability by reducing sensor dust, minimising the need for manual cleaning on assignment. To avoid corruption of captured images, a warning appears on the LCD and an alarm sounds if the memory card door is opened while images are still being written. Interfaces include video out (for display in both NTSC and PAL formats) and USB 2.0. Compatibility and accessories Canon is marking today’s launch with the release of several additions to the professional EOS system: EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM – A fast, ultra wide-angle zoom lens delivering exceptional image quality throughout the aperture range. Speedlite 580EX II – An update of the Speedlite 580EX that offers weather resistance when attached to the EOS-1D Mark III. Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E2 – Smaller, lighter and more versatile than its predecessor, the WFT-E2 speeds up workflows by allowing photographers to transmit images wirelessly during the shoot. Original Data Security Kit OSK-E3 – Verifies the authenticity of images taken with the camera and supports image encryption for additional security. Software The EOS-1D Mark III is supplied with a comprehensive software suite to help the photographer’s workflow. This includes Digital Photo Professional (DPP), a powerful RAW converter that provides complete RAW image processing control. DPP integrates with cameras features such as the Dust Delete Data and Picture Style. The camera also comes with EOS Utility, ImageBrowser/Zoom Browser and Photostitch.