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This page is for older rumours and info from our current 1Ds Mk3 page, which was getting a bit large
For latest information see our main Rumour Page
The rumours on this page go from February 2007 to 15th August 2007
Even older rumours (Spring 2005 to January 2007) are on our old 1Ds3 Canon rumours page
2007 August 15th Over in Bizzarroland, I'm told (thanks ;-) that a dealer has got the wrong picture of a 1Ds3 in a 1D3 advert
(note to readers - I don't know this NY photo store... they look dodgy
A new 1Ds3 for right -and- left handed people? Surely not a way to get your 1D3 page some free advertising ;-)
Is FF coming to Sony (or Nikon for that matter) A load of Sony info on out 40D page includes the snippet that "Nikon is supplying Sony new steppers to create FF sensors in one shot"
14th What Canon will introduce next week. The 40D looks rather likely, but who knows when the 5D and 1Ds2 will get replaced? In general Canon like to give major products individual launches, but who knows if anything special is set for this anniversary year?
Meanwhile, in Calgary, it seems that some pro dealers have been "discouraged from ordering large numbers of 1Ds-II, 5D, and 30D cameras - or from basing their advertising on these machines." (DPR) and "Canon is NOW suggesting to the varous stores that it might be unwise to anticipate major purchases of, or advertising for, the 30D, 5D, and the 1Ds-II."
13th Canon China drops the 1Ds2 (and 30D) from its listings
10th Another 16MP 5D2 rumour at POTN (via Vistek in Toronto), which if true, would make it much more likely (IMHO) that a 1Ds3 would be out first.
Of course the various Nikon D3X related rumours are still going strong that a full frame or a DX D300 will be announced on the 23rd (or 24th in London is one press info session I've heard).
Meanwhile, in the tinfoil hat/Friday afternoon department, there are copious rumours and theories going round about the 'convenient' release of that old sensor patent info yesterday ;-)
2007 August 9th More AF issues.... however the story at SP adds that Canon might be stopping 1D3 shipments, pending a 'fix'. However, no sources for this conjecture are given and I've seen several such posts on forums.
More fact based, is the update on RG, which suggests that the issues are being taken seriously by Canon...
"EOS-1D Mark III autofocus article updated with an analysis of firmware v1.1.0
I also noticed that DPR had picked up on an old (2003) Nikon patent for a full colour imaging chip which uses three small dichroic mirrors below an opening to direct red, green and blue light to separate photodiodes. Bit difficult to fabricate at the moment, but a nifty idea.
6th The UK Canon event later this month is to launch 'The Autumn Collection'. Expect a 40D, now that a bit of a buzz has been created by some 'leaked' info
I still keep seeing those confident pronouncements on some boards that 'there will be no 1Ds Mk3 this year'
Meanwhile Chuck Westfall (from Canon) mentions some AF issues
...or RTFM guys :-)
4th A Spanish site suggests that Canon is organising an event in Kenya 10-15th October (Google translation) Is this connected with the event that people are suggesting for later this month (a 40D?) or could it be something else :-)
It was the 1D3, but not in Kenya...
3rd Some 40D pictures on a Korean site, which mention the 20th as a release date - however various automatic translations of the page also hint at at 1Ds3 release - Any Korean visitors care to check the page and offer an opinion?
2007 July 31st 1D3 firmware 1.1.0 is available at http://web.Canon.jp/imaging/eos1dm3/firmware.html30th More new firmware from Canon for 1D3 - soon to be available for download. The new firmware for the Mark III should be generally available from: http://web.Canon.jp/imaging/BeBit-e.html at 10am Tokyo time (GMT+9) July 31st. It includes the following improvements and fixes:
29th A 50MP sensor thread on DPR follows on from: "September's edition of UK magazine T3 has mention on page 60 of a 50Mp Canon camera coming in 2008 to definitively bury 35mm film"
28th It's page 39 in AP, just in case you're curious - Also I've been told of a shop in Tokyo with a sign up announcing "The successor to the EOS 30D will be released this autumn" They also spoke of the 200D follow up from Nikon, but no 1Ds3 :-(
26th Thanks Jan for pointing out this in the latest AP magazine:
It's the 1D3 that has won an award for something ;-)
If you're concerned that a 40D in August might give credence to the 'No 1Ds3 this year' rumours, then it's worth pointing out that the 20D was announced in August 2004 and the 1Ds2 in September 2004 (although that was a photokina year)
22nd There's still lots of debate about the prevalence of the 1D3 AF issues - I get mail from people who are finding it a joy to use, without any real problems. Certainly, if I had one, my need for quick AF is pretty infrequent, so it would be the loss of wide angle coverage that would be the killer for me (Did I mention I'm still waiting for the 1Ds3? :-) Have a look at this thread on PPH (reg. required for full info) for some different views.
July 21st Unfortunately RG suggests that the AF issues are still there with the 1D3 :-(
20th This note was received by someone who had had their 1D3 updated to V1.0.9
EOS-1D Mark III Firmware Update, Version 1.0.9
1. Improves the look of images when enlarged on the LCD monitor, Applies a slightly stronger sharpness setting to the LCD monitor when images are enlarged.
2. Countermeasures for Main Dial response errors (Main, Quick Control, Vertical-grip Main). Fixes a rare response error in the Main Dials in which they either did not respond when rotated or would change several clicks' worth even if only clicked once.
3. Improves the consistency of AI Servo AF under certain conditions. Reduces the tendency of the camera to autofocus on high-contrast backgrounds when shooting in conditions where AF detection is difficult, such as when the main subject is not completely covered by the AF frames or if the main subject's contrast is low.
4. Corrects errors in the Italian and Simplified Chinese menu screens,
Please note that this Version 1.0.9 firmware will be made available for download from the Web at the end of July. However you will not need to take any action as your camera has already been updated.
Thank you for your understanding.
19th In comments about the 'no 1Ds3 this year' note below, it was pointed out to me that the price of the 1Ds2 in Japan recently went down from 892,500 yen to 826,000 yen. Some time after 20th Sept was slated for the announcement with availability by the end of November.
Meanwhile one date I've heard for the possible announcement of a new Nikon camera is 25th July - hopefully it will be FF since competition in this area can only be good for those of us wanting a 1Ds3 at a 'reasonable' price (note - definition of 'reasonable' seems to vary somewhat widely ;-) See this FM thread for some speculation (or this long rambling DPR one for not much more ;-) - maybe we'll just have to wait for Sony to come up with something...
There is an update to V1.0.9 of the 1D3 firmware - the end of the month is when it's expected to go on the Canon web sites. This FM thread has some further info. At the moment this is a 'return to Canon' update. Canon UK don't know what specific issues the update fixes.
I've had a message suggesting that their Canon sources are saying 'end of the month' for a firmware update for the 1D3. Unfortunately the same sources suggested that there wouldn't be a 1Ds3 for "at least 12 months" (Thanks for the info Paul ;-)
2007 July 17th 1D3 firmware update? A suggestion (NS) that tomorrow (18th) will see a 1D3 firmware update.
Meanwhile not to be outdone by Canon's CMOS announcement, Sony come up with their own CMOS plans...
15th An interesting Canon technology snippet - they are developing their CMOS sensor business to use them in their smaller compact cameras as well as DSLRs (Reuters) -- at present they still get a lot of their smaller (CCD) image chips from Sony.
And in another interesting if unrelated -- to the fundamental 'where is my 1Ds3' question :-) I was sent this PDF link to an interesting Canon guide to their lenses and the technology that goes into them.
14th A DPR post suggests that Canon have a Press Conference arranged on the 20th Aug. Although a new IXUS is slated for release, the 40D seems also a good possibility, particularly with all the recent price drops for the 30D. This does make me wonder about the 1Ds3 timing - could we see it at the same time? or does it get pushed into October?
13th There's an interesting post on DPR with the response from Canon UK to a complaint about 1D3 AF.
It includes a suggestion to look at 'Picture styles' -- Hmm picture styles affect AF performance, I must have missed that page of the manual... :-)
All said though, there are many users of MK3's who don't see an AF problem, but when the likes of Rob Galbraith say they have issues, I'd expect a slightly better thought out response from Canon?
12th The next 'Super Camera' from Canon -- a good example of how to make a composite image
Do check the Original image at Pbase
Well worth doing to see all the detail that has been added and the other composites at www.pbase.com/ eminilia/ special_effects
9th Hot on the tails of the 1Ds3 rebates in Australia comes a comment (POTN) about a dealer in Sydney, taking pre orders for a 1Ds3
Aus$13k (~US$11k, ~£5,500) is a tad steep :-)
6th 1D3 autofocus gets a bit of a mention in the latest 'DigitalJournalist' article by Chuck Westfall of Canon US - don't expect much if you are having AF related issues, although there promises to be "more on EOS-1D Mark III autofocusing in the next edition of Tech Tips."
5th I just heard from someone (thanks) who checked again with CPS in the US - the 1Ds2 rebate is not known there...
4th The Australian deal is apparently open to anyone who buys a 1Ds2 in Australia. I was sent this email response by someone who contacted CPS Australia from the US - any more info from round the world is welcome...
I've been asked by several people about the 1Ds2 offer mentioned below. I've only been sent Australian info - I've currently got no info on whether it is being run in the US or anywhere else in the world. I did hear of someone contacting Canon CPS in the US and not getting much joy from them, although one person at Canon did suggest that this was a CPS only deal in the US.
3rd Rob G's article on autofocus and the 1D3 has been updated
July 2nd 2007 News (thanks) from Australia that Canon is trying to shift stocks of 1Ds Mk2s. CPS members are being sent the following
Looks like they are trying to shift 50mm/1.2L stocks too...
June 29th I was sent an interesting Olympus PDF file about how they intend to combat the 40D and D300 - info on the 40D page.
27th I was just sent a flyer from a UK dealer reminding me that Canon rebates end on Friday, although 400D (Xti) rebates go on to the end of July. In the US I see that Canon have an 'instant rebate' on various lenses until July 16th (details on lenses page)
25th A report from Japan tells of numerous AF related issues with the 1D3 and that Canon has not yet recognised it officially, although there may be an announcement next month. It might well be a return for service option and -not- fixed by a firmware update.
Meanwhile for rumours (nothing very convincing) have a look at this long rambling DPR thread - 1Ds3 at 22MP, big LCD, 4fps, 28 shot (raw) buffer, there's also the brief mention of some new 'L' lenses coming, but then again there's always the mention of new lenses on their way. The 1Ds3 is either $10k or $7999 depending on your POV ;-)
22nd If you've got 1D3 problems then do check out the updated article at RG there are suggestions about who to contact a Canon.
21st While I'm hearing directly from some people with 1D3 problems, someone pointed me to this review, along with the comment that they had not noticed any problems with AF.
20th You may hve read some of the amusing rants on some of the forums about a focus problem with the 1D3. Well, to some extent it is real, and there is a very comprehensive article about various 1D3 issues at RG
2007 June 17th A couple of PDF articles from Canon about that APS-H 50MP sensor (#1 and #2) or about ~80MP in 35mm FF format (or ~30MP for 1.6 crop). Probably not until we get to a 1DsMk5 or 6 ;-) ... and then what lenses are going to match it?
June 15th Unfortunate rumours of a production hold on the 1D3 at DPR
On techy matters, Kodak have announced new sensor filter patterns for better sensitivity - less colour detail but better luminance.
14th More on some 1D3 problems?... There's a thread on a German board suggesting a further delay in shipping - more inspection is deemed necessary due to a worse than expected return rate (AF problems and image banding)
Meanwhile, since there is an absolute dearth of good Canon rumours, there's this EG story capturing some of the current Nikon rumours about a new 18MP FF D3 It seems that apart from their earlier posts, they heard from:
This would be the same FF chip that Sony are going to put in their 'Flagship' camera? (see our 5D2/3D/7D page for some more Sony info and links) Well, the meeting is pencilled in for Jun 26th, so not long to wait ;-)
11th The wireless adapters for the new 1D3 are not exactly commonplace yet - maybe a Wi-Fi memory card ?
Meanwhile all is not well in Denmark -- I'm told that:
5th If you are getting a 1D3 (and I suspect this might apply to a future 1Ds3 as well) be very careful with the screw on cover for the adapter socket. There are numerous reports on DPR of people having it fall off during their first shoot. Seems a cheap solution to a problem solved perfectly well with those nice solid rubber connectors Canon have used before. Of course you could use the wireless adapter as a 'plug' - if you could get them... :-)
June 4th If you are amongst the chosen ones, you can get a trip to Japan, courtesy of Canon ;-). There is an interesting article by RG about just such a trip
There's also some info on the EOS-1D Mark III's Highlight Tone Priority feature, which is something that I look forward to seeing implemented in the 1Ds3
The new file formats could include DNG (some standards related info) or some replacement for JPEG (note including comments from CW at Canon). Personally I hope they don't go down any route that includes any proprietary technology in a restrictive manner. See this page for lots of info on HD Photo and see how 'open' you think microsoft will be...
Also from Japan -- a report (thanks) from Japan http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/main/20070604AT1D0109M04062007.html
Google comes up with this translation
If anyone has a more accurate translation I'd be curious to know - It was also suggested in the message I received that the 1DsMk3 would appear in November.
Meanwhile engadget has what is probably the same story, including
2007 May 31st Over on FM there is mention of a possible October release date for the 1Ds3:
How that matches up with the IFA launch date we heard about (31st Aug) is another question, but knowing the way rumours and news travel round it could just as well be a date for the long awaited 40D, but probably not the 5D Mk2 or fabled 3D ;-)
This morning I had a London market research company on the phone wanting to know about cameras and my business. Seems that Canon UK are getting them phoning round UK photographers to ask about their cameras and purchase plans - so just in case it didn't come across in the interview "Yes I do think I'll be buying a new camera in the next six months" it is also '
Reports on the various Canon forums (DPR,FM) are suggesting that relatively few 1DMk3s have so far arrived in the UK 'only 50 units had come into the U.K. in the first shipment and that "most" of these had gone to the Reuters and Getty agencies.' Don't expect to be able to walk in to your local store to buy a 1D3 for some months yet...
It seems too that if you really want a 1D3 then some are already appearing on eBay - presumably by people trying to make a quick profit, rather than those who got one and quickly decided they didn't like it :-)
30th Still a lot of dealers being rather confusing about when people are actually going to get their 1D3, however Canon UK are not able to help much more, with one caller yesterday being told by the person on the phone that 'According to his system the 1DMk3 has not even been released in Europe yet'... How useful it is to outsource your call centres sometimes :-)
26th As Mk3s start to arrive, I notice that
25th Lots more detailed info on the trickle of 1D Mk3s being delivered is coming in (thanks). For example, Jacobs Digital in London got 5 yesterday - nowhere near enough to meet their pre-order list (Foto & Video in Norway got 8). It seems that Ritz in the US ordered 300 and only got 10 in the first delivery.
24th At last, now as the 1D3 is starting to ship around the world, there is this mention of someone being on a 1Ds Mk3 waiting list :-) :-)
There's some additional US 1D3 shipping info on JW's rumour page, including some figures on just how little of one big US dealer's order was initially supplied.
23rd From within Canon we've heard of discussions about the 1Ds3 launch at Berlin’s IFA show (31/8/07 to 5/9/07) The launch date is set for Friday the 31st August. No other info I'm afraid, since it was only the launch date and venue that was being dicussed.
And at RG there is some info on US 1D3 shipping...
22nd From Australia (thanks) it seems that most dealers are only getting 1DMk3s in very low numbers per shipment and "It was rumoured that one of our major newspapers received the bulk of the initial shipment" ... And in the UK "As of today Calumet were hoping to fulfill all their back orders by end of May - no stock yet in UK. " Digitalrev (HK) are still claiming to have stock (but note comments on 17th) and T-online in Germany are sending out emails saying it'll be mid July...
While looking at several sites, I noticed that quite a lot were not listing the 1DsMk2 - far to early to infer anything from this, but always worth keeping an eye on the 1Ds2 supply situation.
Meanwhile a mention of the 1Ds3 on this flickr thread - with it being lens capabilities and file size (from a 24MP sensor) causing issues (some real crystal ball work there! ;-)
2007 May 21st Mixed news for people waiting for their 1D3. B&H (in the US) push availability back to June, while in Europe, HK and Australia some lucky people are getting calls from dealers telling them that their cameras are on the way. If you've not had one on order for some time, then don't expect one to be available for a fair while...
20th Over at eflens there is a short interview with Vic Solomon from Canon. Not that Canon people ever give much away, but on the subject of moving to FF he says:
For those of you who've not come across Chuck, he writes a useful column at digitaljournalist (recent issue)
Meanwhile from dpr
See also this thread for some related comments, in particular about just who will use a new top end sensor and in what - in particular I liked the bit that said "This camera would trump any 1Ds (or D) MkIII by a long shot pricewise and featurewise." Hmmm... :-)
18th Apropos of the 80-120MB comment... I'm told (thanks) of comments heard a while ago that the 1Ds3 camera would have in-camera menu capability of having TIFF files saved directly to the CF memory card, as well as RAW and JPEG files. The venue for its announcement is probably Berlin’s IFA (link fixed) show (31/8/07 to 5/9/07), as it’s the largest show remaining in this year, being billed as the Worlds Largest Consumer Electronics Trade Fair, having over 200,000 visitors in the 2006 show.
Meanwhile, waiting for a 1D3, someone was told by Calumet (NYC) that there was "another delay in shipment to late June..." Whether this is just to reduce the zillions of "Is it there yet?" phone calls they are getting wasn't clear ;-)
From Japan, I'm told that Canon is now saying "the 1D Mark III will be released on the 31st of this month in Japan" and in the UK, Warehouse Express are saying that "deliveries of the 1D MkIII are expected in June, but they don't know when. "
17th At POTN there is a new 1DsMk3 rumour at last (OK it's nothing shocking :-)
Announced/released/shipped - if the 1D3 is anything to go by, it may be some time next year before you get your hands on one :-(
Quite a few reports suggesting that the 21st is a fairly likely date for commencement of 1D3 supply. I'm told that the HK based DigitalRev are saying the 1D3 is in stock at £2449.99 (but do beware of the warranty situation if you contemplate buying cameras from overseas) I've also seen the 16-35 2.8L Mk2 for as low as £830 (with international warranty), so it pays to shop around.
In the UK I'm told (thanks) that Warehouse Express has over 180 'pre-orders' but they are not telling people where they are on the waiting list :-) Dabs (UK) seemingly have over 160 on back order, and are expecting deliveries by 25th May
15th In Germany, I'm told Canon is sending dealers an email which roughly translates as saying that worldwide distribution is starting on the 21st May, and that this is the 'official' date worldwide.
Translated (thanks Oliver!)
In Canada, dealers have been told by Canon get "Actual orders". It seems that Canon Canada have also issued an edict restricting initial orders to CPS members (?? - not heard that from anywhere else in the world)
I'm also told that "According to Calumet there is a batch of 1D Mk3's being shipped from Japan to Holland for subsequent onward distribution within Europe. Calumet have 125 on back order so they are hoping to fulfill all current orders by the end of May."
14th For those of you following Sony's potential move into the 'Pro' market, that translation of the Sony interview (see 10th March below) is causing a stir again, with drops in the price of the A100 (including one company 'told' to drop it to $499 on Aug 1st). While their 'larger' body might fulfill some peoples' wishes to go to full frame, I suspect that if it is FF, then it will be up against the 5D (maybe 5DMk2) rather than Canon 1 series. Canon could do with some competition in the FF area ;-)
Several people have pointed to the move to an 82mm filter (from 77mm) on the new 16-35 Mk2 and its significance to the improvements coming up in their pro lens line up. The 24-70 2.8L is an excellent lens (I use it along with the TSE-90 for detailed product work) but add in IS and with faster better ISO in the cameras, I'll be much more happily snapping away in some of the dim venues I sometimes work in. The larger filter size might also make it easier to make a version where the front element doesn't leap out quite so much as you open out. It's a big enough jump in performance that I can see this lens being one announced with the 1Ds3 (along with a much improved flash control system - I was sent some info on this, but have no other source at the moment??)
Look also for the new 100-400 IS that makes it to f/4 (although not constant all the way to to 400mm)
2007 May 12th I've had a few mails from people (thanks) waiting for their 1D3 For instance, as of the other day Ritz (in the US) had 53 confirmed pre-orders, they have hundreds on order, but as yet nothing showing up (for retailers) in Canon's warehouses. While (as I've heard from several sources) Canon don't give any advance warning of shipments, they do notify about serious delays, which they haven't done. Calumet in the US is advertising '3-10 days' for 1D3 shipping.
Of some the other products launched at PMA, I hear from someone who ordered them (in the US) in mid March, that the 16-35L II turned up last month and the 580EX-II turned up yesterday...
Meanwhile nothing of note on the 1Ds3 :-(
9th Here's a scanned 1D3 brochure for those checking this page from work and looking for something to use up some time :-) http://site-sg.Canon-asia.com/digitalcamera/brochures/EOS-1D%20Mark%20III%20Brochure.pdf
8th It seems that Mike over at LL has finally got a 1D3 to play with and really rates it...
He also mentions what everyone else wants to know - where's my 1DsMk3? :-) :-)
I suspect it'll be a bit before that, but the time frame is in line with what I'm hearing...
Meanwhile Canon did anounce an S5 and SD850 ... still no RAW support :-( http://www.usa.Canon.com/html/templatedata/pressrelease/20070507_s5is_sd850is.html
Certainly, one SD850 feature I'll be looking for in the 1Ds3 is...
Who needs one touch mirror lockup, when you could have hearts and stars :-) :-)
Also... (since I'm still catching up on info from when I was in the US) Was the 1Ds3 originally slated for announcement the same time as the 1D3? Over on LL someone suggests that
7th I'm told (thanks) that there are Japanese manual for the 1D3 now available (PDFs)
The EOS-1D MarkIII Instruction Manual (212 pages) at: http://cweb.Canon.jp/manual/eosd/pdf/e1dm3cug.pdf
I'm now back from my US trip and over the next few days will be having a good search for any new info for these pages...
2007 April 28th Amazon seem to think they are getting their 1D3 deliveries pretty soon - see this link from someone who is supposed to be waiting, although it was pointed out to me that Canon never usually gives advance warning of shipments.
26th It seems that Adorama were a little optimistic on the shipping dates (19th) and are mailing people on the pre-order list
I'm really hoping that when the 1Ds3 finally appears the release/supply dates are somewhat closer together.
22nd For a rather more independant view of the new 1D3, have a look at RG. Worthwhile reading, for those of us expecting the 1Ds3 to knock our socks off -when- it finally appears...
From a Canon CPS Rep in Germany - "that somewhen around the middle of May they will ship these [1D3] cameras in Germany. The Canon MRP is 4200 Euro but he guessed that the price on the street will be definitly under 4000 Euro."
Meanwhile, a retailer in Germany said "that the Canon Eos 1D MK 3 will be shipped at the 16th May but anyone will have to wait really long because they got over 70 advance orders for this camera and they will just get 5 cameras per Canon shipment - which they get every two days. So end of June for people who didn't order it fast enough." There is also a price of 3669 euro from an online source in Germany. (Thanks for this info)
19th Quick update (from Chicago airport on my travels :-) Amazon is posting a June 20th ship date for the 1D3, however Adorama is still telling those on its early sign-up list that it's late April/early May. More info on FM for those of you waiting
18th Over on FM there's a post pointing to a 26th May shipping date for the 1D3 and price of $4500 - given the current £ vs. $ exchange rate, I might have been tempted if they were actually in the shops, but my CC seems safe for this trip :-) Meanwhile there is a 400D firmware update available.
14th From Germany (thanks) ... a usually reliable German computer magazine called c´t mentioned (as an aside) that the 30D successor will be announced in May. Not exactly news to hurry along 30D sales... Note though, that the rebate scheme (which includes the 30D) runs until June 30th.
2007 April 12th A quick update on 1D3 delivery (thanks). It seems that if you look on the bottom of the comparison table (on the 1D3 page) between 1D2N and 1D3, the release date is listed as late May 2007. Info is from the Canon camera museum. Meanwhile on FM there is a report that the Canon part number has changed, supporting suggestions that a firmware upgrade may have delayed the release.
10th After a scan through all the usual places, I'm afraid I've spotted nothing of interest, although one post suggesting the 1Ds3 in March 2008, was not a thought I'd like to entertain :-)
Interestingly, for those looking at the Pentax
6th I've had several mails pointing to examples of vendors upping their prices a bit, now that rebates are on offer. Meanwhile on the Canon USA site they're now saying that downloads for the 1D3 (ie manuals etc) will be available in June...
As to any real news -- nothing of note I'm afraid... :-(
3rd details on all those generous Canon cashback offers in Europe are now available online at http://Canonlensacc2007.onlinerebates.com/intro.aspx
1st April fools special or not - news from Japan of serious 1d3 delays from POTN. Meanwhile, Warehouse Express in the UK have been sending out details of the various Canon rebate offers: "Up to £1308 CASHBACK on selected CANON DSLRs and accessories" Looks like a concerted effort to shift some kit. See the notes here on the 4th March for some European info. Actual rebates seem to vary a bit between countries.
2007 March 29th - Quick 1D3 availability roundup (thanks to all those who sent in info) B&H (US) announce price ($4495) and availability (May). Meanwhile in Japan it's 440000-498000 yen ~ $3750-$4250 and a May 31 availability - production is rumoured to be about 5000 per month.
28th Well, I searched all the usual locations and found nothing about the 1Ds3 ... since it's a nice sunny day and I don't have any 'paying work' to trouble me, I think I should follow my own advice and get out more to take some photos... :-)
12 MP video camera? I was sent (thanks) some info about the latest pending 'Red One' video camera (tech specs) that fits in a 12MP cmos sensor - although any company that comes up with 'Mysterium' as a name for its image sensor chip sounds a bit suspect to me ;-)
26th Don't all rush at once (OK enough of the 1D3 prices - lets have some 1Ds3 rumours! ;-)
This from inkjetart (thanks for the info :-)
25th B&H in the US have a price 'TBA' and availability 'Approx arrival May' for the 1D3.
Meanwhile, there are still noises about Nikon bringing out a FF camera and how Canon might react (POTN) - but on most forums 1Ds3 posts seem to have dropped back to near 'background' levels...
I've also had a few mails from people who've read the DxO review I recently posted, wondering when technology like this will move 'in camera'. The amount of data in a DxO lens module is possibly a bit much to quickly shove through the current EF lens mount (Link to discussion about how the EF system 'works') but it would enable each lens to give its best with any particular body. Maybe not in the 1Ds3, but if you are going to 25MP and beyond in a 35mm format, then more than just better glass might be needed.
Meanwhile Foveon type technology keeps getting mentioned, along with the ever present "how many bayer pixels equal a Foveon pixel" arguments :-) Fujitsu recently announced a new image processing chip for such multi-layer sensors.
24th For all you 1Ds3 watchers - yes, I want info about it too! Rest assured that any 1Ds3 related info will be highlighted as we get it, and the 1d3 info will shortly be moved to the 1D Mk3 page. Meanwhile for those of you who wouldn't spit for a 1D3, just look at the 1D3 availability/price info as a sign of what's to come ;-)
23rd I've just been told that the 1D3 has vanished from Calumet's US web site - sure enough item EC2780 is not listed any more... Their UK site just lists it as 'Overdue from vendor' :-) Just a temporary glitch it would appear, since it's back later at $4499.9999 (aka $4500) and 7-9 weeks for delivery
Thanks to all those who have sent various prices in to us, including some suspiciously low ones appearing here and there - just remember that currently there are no 1D3's out there and what looks too good to be true might be just that...
One from Greece (katerelos) came in at 3,890 euros and rgb-tech in the UK at £2499 -- just shows that you have to shop around, but do beware of people trying to make a quick buck out of the built up demand...
2007 March 22nd A cheaper 1d3 in the UK? - I'm told that cameraworld has them listed for £2499.99 (inc VAT) which is quite a bit below many of the prices I've seen advertised by others in the UK
21st It seems that the dates I had from Japan (17th) might be a bit more likely than some had suggested...
Calumet have upped that rather optimistic 3-10 days
This release date comes via Canon, not the dealers...
Late May... http://cweb.Canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dmk3/index.html (the red text says [via Google] "2007 late May sale schedule")
19th Is the next announcement from Canon in August (several previous cameras have appeared then) Possible pointer (2/3rds down page) to this and 40D, 100-400 F/4 IS and the 800mm F/5.6 Some shutter R&D related talk at POTN -- multiple exposure ideas for higher dynamic range have been around for a while. you open the shutter for an exposure and then electronically 'chop' the exposure into smaller sub exposures. Good for dynamic range, not so good for motion blur...
A price ($4499) and delivery time (3-10 days) appears on the US Calumet site - the UK site (£2999) is still only taking 'pre-orders'. That UK price (which includes tax [VAT] at 17.5%) works out at about $5500 by current exchange rates.
Thanks too, for the suggestions that the 'manufacturers guidelines' mentioned below might be nothing more than a way to get people to call the store and find that actual prices might be somewhat higher than the web
On the 5Dmk2 page I was sent some Canon info with a picture of a 5D with a non standard top LCD - looks to be an old prototype however.
17th Quite a few people are scouring the net for 1D3 deals however info is still not very forthcoming
This example sent to me (thanks) is from Samy's in California, showing no price... it used to say $4999
however, clicking on the INFO link shows this curious note in the item description.
Can anyone let me know just what these 'guidelines' are? Is it warranty related?
Meanwhile in Japan (thanks for the info), the 1D Mark III is 498,000 yen (US$ 4300-4400). The supply date for the camera is the end of May(!), the Speedlite 580EX II is the end of April and the EF 16-35mm F2.8L ll USM is the end of this month.
15th In Germany Canon is sending out a mail which says there will be Cashback for 400d, 30d and 5d staring on 1st of April, ending on 30th of June.
And Google's version ;-)
Meanwhile, at http://Canon2007promotions.onlinerebates.com/ there is this interesting page (thanks)
No news what they are yet...
And who are onlinerebates.com? A quick 'Whois' names them as: Continental Promotion Group, 7405 E. Monte Cristo Ave, Scottsdale, AZ 85260, US
There are some less than glowing reports about this company - hopefully more agressive consumer protection laws in Europe would lessen the chances of 'problems' with rebates. (I'm aware of the many issues people have had with Canon rebates in the US)
Both 30D and 5D pictures look suspiciously similar ;-) (thanks)
Note- I've left the film ones in the pic as well ;-)
14th Some 1D3 prices starting to appear on US sites (thanks for the info) $4999 at zipzoomfly and $4599 at fotoconnection - however supplies are, as expected, somewhat scarce.
In a follow up to the other day's collection of older info that we missed:
2007 March 13th Would you always want to use liveview on your 1D3 in a hot studio? One of the potential problems in running a sensor continuously is that it warms up. One bit of info that I'd not spotted was pointed out to me (Thanks)
I'd be interested to hear what this does to noise levels for studio use (perhaps not the main market for the 1D3). If you are curious about just how much temperature affects noise, leave your camera to get quite cold, switch it on and immediately take a shot at highest iso. Then leave it switched on for a while in a warm room to thoroughly warm up - take another shot and compare the two. This shows up particularly well with small P&S cameras with tiny sensors (ie very small pixels).
If anyone has already got their 1D3, then I'd be curious to know just how much of an issue the heat problem actually is (especially at 3200/6400)
12th Try the page below at translate.google.com
The wonders of machine translation do at least say why there was no 40D this time... (In a Yoda-esque way)
It's 'clear' that they would like to have just one top end camera, but the requirements for the D and Ds lines are still too far apart for current technology, and the 'Pro' models are one area where user requirements are seriously important
11th And so, PMA is no more for this year...
Several commentators (LL) have described it as rather lacklustre. Not having attended any PMA shows, I couldn't really say :-) I'll be keeping these pages going, so if you've got any info or comments, then feel free to drop me a line - and thanks again for all the recent mail :-)
A Canon interview at http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2007/03/11/5793.html (in Japanese) gives some background info on recent developments
This summary from a DPR post
The design philosophy does not really appear to have changed -- not so good for people wanting a 1.3x crop "3D" or an 8fps, 45point AF APS-C camera.
Meanwhile someone has collected together some info on some of the forthcoming trade shows (from DPR and the web)
10th The 'pointy-top' Sony mockup is manging to cause a bit of a stir -- (follow this thread on DPR for lots of guesses ;-)
There is a full translation at Dyxum - The key section being:
All this talk brings about thoughts as to how Sony supplies sensors to Nikon (ah yes, the D3... ;-) and whether the remarks at LL yesterday suggest a Foveon sensor in a D3 or even that long hinted 'Foveon style' sensor in the 1Ds3. The few snippets of real info are churning over many of the rumours in this field I've seen for a few years (go back through the rumour archive, and you'll see quite a few ;-)
2007 March 9th Happy 75th birthday to my Dad (who still uses an Olympus OM4 :-)
1D3 prices in the US still seem uncertain, with a report on DPR of new price info due soon from Canon - given the change in price info from the initial $3999 in the PDF released by Canon, it looks as if someone somewhere might have got their initial pricing info in a twist ;-)
For a slightly wider ranging look at what's at PMA, have a look on LL where there is this interesting snippet:
Here's a pic of the two Sony 'Vapourware Alpha' (tm) cameras ;-)
I like the one with the big pentaprism (the FF one ;-) and big lens better (we don't need no stinkin' built in flash ;-) - guess which one appears this year...
Real soon now...
More Sony (and stacks of other PMA) info at GZ
8th The various '20th Anniversary' kits and offers in the scanned PDF I mentioned the other day are now appearing on dealer web sites. I had a report of them on the Warehouse Express site here in the UK (Canon EOS-5D plus Canon EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM ~£2000)
I'm told that these may be old offers, but there are lens kits that include the 16-35L II, so it looks as if you'll just have to browse round a bit at the moment to find stuff...
PMA gets under way with Sony entering the 'vapourware' camera market (i.e. one of them ships this year), with two 'un-named' DSLR cameras aimed at the higher end (no indication as to 'How High ;-). One targets the "high amateur" market area and both offer "higher performance than Alpha 100." There's a new sensor, but no real details... [pics at GZ] Oh, and there will also be some new lenses (24-70mm, 70-300mm, 28-250mm)
Given the D3 'No Show' at PMA, have a quick view of what they actually said they were aiming at, mid 2006.
I've been looking at a few older sites and pages for some background info that people might have missed. I had quite a selection mailed to me the other day (thanks) and I've been catching up...
Take for example this interview with Mr. Takaya Iwasaki, Canon representative for Central East and North East Europe, Sub-Sahara Africa and Middle East back in October 2004 (1Ds2 released) and look what has (and has not) yet happened.
Really good lenses for your EF mount? - some Zeiss ZF/ZS info
6th The D40x is all that gets announced - no D3 (info at DPR)
2007 March 5th Probably more people looking towards a possible Nikon announcement today ... FF, 1.1 or nothing at all?
A D40x 10.2MP 'announced' at KR and enters the busy 10MP DSLR section ;-)
I like the look of the new E-510 -- Someone wrote and asked me why I still like my old manual focus OM2 -- apart from the f/1.2 50mm, there is this comparison with my 1Ds ;-)
My old OM2 (as used for the Suffolk Beach picture on the front page of this site)
The picture is actually from one of the older articles on this site, that I wrote not long after getting the 1Ds
4th A thread at Photo.net talks about the forthcoming D3 from Nikon, on Monday
Some of the info now seems to be missing from the thread (now quoted on FM), but it's supposed to be:
If true, then I'd expect a 1DsMk3 to be leaked/released pretty soon afterwards (give it a month or two for the hoopla to quiet down)
Over at FM there is mention of another new Nikon:
Meanwhile I'm getting a lot of reports of 30D and 5D kits available at very good prices - and a new rebate scheme by April 1st (to 30th June)
From France... (from EOS-N)
"A l'occasion du 20me anniversaire de la monture EF, du 1er avril au 30 juin 2007"
With a 30d get 100 euros, and in addition:
With a 5D get a cashback of 150 euros, and additionally
New 400D :
Meanwhile, here's a scanned PDF of the various camera and lens kits available in the UK - shop around for best deals, since I'm not so sure whether this is a 'clearout', or an attempt to get more people 'locked' in to a particular system...
3rd There is a supposed quote from someone else at Canon mentioned on DPR
This quote (DPR post does not reference original source) comes from: Steven Inglima, Explorers of Light, Professional Products Marketing Division, Canon USA
It may not exist in boxes ready to ship, but advanced pre production versions are still out there being tested at the moment - and how many months is many?
Also, where I suggested that long advance warning of products was not something Canon did, I saw this on DPR
2nd In preparation for PMA I'm told there was a conference at the MGM Grand hotel in Las Vegas. The conference was on new chip technology, hosted by the association of photography engineers. The main sponsor of the show was Canon (they had 50 of the new 1D Mark III cameras there for testing by the group)
Anyone else there, care to comment?
I'm told (Thanks!) that:
There was general surprise that Taki said what he did at the conference...
One other snippet was that although the 1D3 is an amazing camera, it's low on on pixels. New technology should allow 10 per second with at least 14mp (do I hear 1DMk3N)
Of course if Nikon do announce a forthcoming D3 or whatever at 18-20 MB and almost FF (with high speed crop mode), then 1Ds2 sales could head south and some major corporate customers might be tempted by Nikon -- unless, of course, we get some hint as to what is coming from Canon ;-)
No live display and we get Digic IV (is this the dual core version of Digic III? ;-) Also, Canon is hardly known for announcing/leaking products months ahead of availability? But who knows?
In more 1D3 pricing info I'm told that it is available (to order) at Henry's in the Toronto area at $5500 Cdn. Also the Canon Australia site listing the EOS-1D Mark III body for $A6,499 which is the same price as for the EOS-1D Mark IIN body (full Aus price list)
BTW Looking at my web logs, it's nice to see frequent visits from Canon corporate IP addresses all over the world -- Hi folks, where's my new 1Ds? ;-)
2007 March 1st Only a few more days to PMA 2007, and the "Spring 2007 EOS Catalog" has arrived in US stores (1D3 price is still listed as TBA) so quite possibly nothing until August/September (there are two catalogues 'Spring' and 'Fall' in the US)
February 28th I see that B&H in the US have pushed back delivery dates for the 1D3. No price as yet and "Availability :Approx. Arrival May" (was April) Perhaps more sales demand from the big corporate buyers?
Over in Nikon rumour land there is a lot of talk of a Nikon D3 1.1X crop 'full frame' sensor being announced during PMA (available Autumn)... It will be in the 18MP to 20MP range and have a DX format high FPS, High Speed Crop Mode (for all those DX lenses that won't handle bigger sensors).
For those of you looking for more historical data here's the 1DMk2N white paper to compare with the Mk3.
BTW your 1Dmk3 pictures will look slightly bigger since the active area of the new 1DMkIII sensor is slightly smaller that of the 1DMkIIN: 28.1x18.7mm vs 28.7x19.1mm - time to recalculate all your lens FL multipliers... :-) Just compare p12 of the 1D2N WP with page 9 of the 1D3 one.
Meanwhile Canon CPS in Europe look to be revamping the CPS site -- spoiler alert... the ? only refers to the 1D3 :-)
I've been updating links to 1D3 related issues on the 1D3 page - including a link to a (not exactly probing) interview with Chuck Westfall of Canon US.
27th At last! some figures and specs for the 3DMkIV... Actually its an interesting collection of graphs and charts showing Canon DSLR specs and some extrapolation and guesses/conjecture about future trends :-) Of course I'll be saving my pennies for the 1DsMkV at ~33MP ;-)
However, more on some of what Canon have been looking at (from FM)
If you look at current pricing then the 1Ds2 stands a long way ahead of the 1D3 - look for some good 1Ds2 deals over the coming months ;-)
On the size issues I'd expect the 5D replacement to fill the role of a smaller FF camera, but with the 1Ds3 still at 1D3 dimensions
26th Back to the 1D/1Ds split... Those of you following the rumours over the ages may remember that a dynamic crop sensor combination of the two was mentioned a few times (and we've heard of such a beast being tested) ... and for an interesting take on this at DPR by a poster familiar to those looking at rumourland ;-)
I've always thought the price difference between 1D and 1Ds lines made the merged camera less likely - ex 1d2 users moving to a new 'combined' 1D(s)3 were never going to happily pay 1Ds2 level prices, while the likes of me, moving to a newer Ds level camera probably would (when we finally get a chance ;-)
Several comments keep referring to a 'smaller' 1Ds3. Look at the picture below of the 1Ds with wft-e2 attached
Well, given the kind of users the 1Ds range is aimed at. I'd not expect the new one to look much different from the 1D3 - if you want a smaller high res camera look to the 5D Mk2 - or even the fabled 3D. Bit of a brick - yes, but I personally like a camera that size, and if a new better one comes out I'm not the least bit interested in sacrificing any image quality/functionality/robustness aspects, just to get something a little smaller (Ok that's for me, and I do happen to have big hands ;-)
Several people also sent me info about the somewhat variable US pricing of the 1D3 - nothing precise at the moment...
25th Good to see Canon 1DMkIV discussions (or possibly 1DMkiiiN ;-) starting on some discussion boards - this must be because Canon have neatly sidestepped potential 'My 1D3 back focuses' threads by providing AF fine tuning adjustments in the Mk3 :-)
24th FYI I'm continuing to update the 1DMk3 page with links to info round the world
Those initial reports of a $3999 price tag in the US might not be so accurate - if you look at the original Canon US press release -- Oops, did someone say $3999? What we meant to say was
In the excellent Canon White Paper (original version) on the 1D3 it says (p63):
"The retail price of the EOS-1D Mark III at introduction will be $3,999, the same price at which the EOS-1D Mark II N debuted." -What was this price?
Well I should say, that in my version of the WP it says that - I just downloaded the one linked to on RG and it now says:
"The retail price of the EOS-1D MarkIII at introduction will be very similar to the price at which the EOS-1D MarkII N debuted."
Looking at the initial release info on RG (Google cache) it says "The camera is slated to ship in April 2007 at an expected street price of US$3999 in the U.S."
2007 February 23rd At the UK press event Canon confirmed that "these will be all the new products announced in the run-up to and during PMA, which starts on March 8th"
There is a report on this event at PB
An EOS 7s with Eye control? Pics and info on EOS 3/5/7D page
Meanwhile back to the 1DsMk3 rumours :-)
Over at ToP there is (but no source or attribution):
The UK price for the 1DMk3 has been quoted at £3050 to several people - yet another example of somewhat skewed exchange rates and prices if the US RRP really is $3999 (that's $1.31 to the pound where even my tourist rate is currently $1.86) Then again there is a market that will pay £3k. I've not seen advertised prices in any of the adverts around here yet, but I believe that Canon UK has not yet included a manufacturers price.
I've also been told that the price on the Canon Germany site is listed as EUR 4307.59 (£3029 at today's 'tourist' rates) of course there are tax differences, but that US price looks -very- cheap in comparison...
Not sure of the comparative prices, but I'm told that buying in Japan does get you an international warranty (can anyone confirm this?)
22nd 1DMk3 info is now on its own 1D3 page as I collect all the different versions of press info from round the world.
There is a very nice 63 page PDF all about the 1D3 (for a long read ;-)
Image above is from the PDF and shows details of the anti-dust features -- no doubt what we can expect to see on the 1Ds Mk3 (or whatever it gets called, however Canon have shown that they are not bothered by the use of 'Mark 3')
This camera has an awful lot of new features - good pointers to what to expect in the future
Ok, so when do we get the 1Ds2 replaced? ;-) I'm already hearing the cries of disbelief over there being no 40D, however a 40D was never going to be released at exactly the same time as something with so much new stuff as the 1D3.
The cryptic but so far rather accurate DPR poster 'Tsiphoto' is saying that there will be no 40D at this PMA.
As ever there is still the fact that PMA isn't until March, although the liklihood of any major announcement is, I would have thought, slim. There is the PhotoPlus Expo 2007, slated to be held at the Jacob Javits Convention Center in Manhattan on October 18–20, 2007. There is also CeBit 2007 in Germany but 15-21 March is probably too close to PMA.
The 1Dmk3 -- should ship in April for US$ 3999
Full info on the 1DMk3 page
and a new 16-35 2.8L
Thanks to all those of you round the world who have mailed in places to find the various Canon info - it's nice to know the page has been of interest
There is no built in wireless but a new WFT- E2A Wireless File Transmitter available
WFT-E2 attached to 1d3
There's a new 580EX II Flash as well
Canon US has a full list of new products
Well, look as if my upgrade money is safe until the Autumn - However the 1Ds Mk3 rumours page will continue!
Over at DPR we get told that there will be no 40D at PMA
21st From the 'Friend at Canon' school... (at FM)
"1D MkIII 10mp, 10fps, 3" LIVE LCD, the 40D 10MP, 5fps, 3"LCD
Live LCD? Could be a whole new sensor design or even a secondary sensor associated with the AF system
I'm told the current 16-35L is also on offer at this Danish supplier...
Over at Canon Middle East, two images have been retired from their web site, the 20D and the 1Dmk2N
While at Canon USA, the Xti is no longer marked up as 'New'
But in related 'real' item news .... At last Foveon ups it to 14"MP" ;-) the SD 14 (info in German) -- there has not been much talk of Canon going for an all new sensor type for a while, but expect plenty of 'what are real megapixels' arguments if they ever do... (SD 14 = 4.69 of your puny Earth Megapixels ;-)
20th Over in DPR we continue to get cryptic additions like "19 cross-type af points, ISO 6400" from the poster of the 10MP 10fps stuff the other day.
I happen to occasionally be a 'listmom' for the ProDIG mailing list, and as such, chat with quite a few other 'pro' photographers round the world. I know there is a lot of interest in just what Canon is up to at the top end, from people who's livelihoods depend on the 'tools of the trade'. That so, those that know are very careful in what they are saying (and not just because they know I look after this page ;-)
Noticed how little solid info there is about new Canon stuff?, Well we had an interesting mail describing various bits of kit that have been out and on test over the last six months.
Interesting comments -- thanks for sending them
From Belgium we have several new long lenses (see new lenses page) 400 5.6L IS and 100-400 4L IS
...and some 40D info might have got out (even if it does look rather like 30D specs ;-)
19th A not so good fake at DPR, but 32MP and a move to the four thirds system :-)
And it gives me a new pic to brighten up the page on a grey Monday morning...
I had a pre-Focus flyer from The Flash Centre (UK) this morning. I noted that it said
"Canon will be launching a new DSLR after Focus and we are delighted to partner these launches in our regions ---- London in the 6th March..." "If you can't get to London on the 6th, the earliest alternative venue will be the American PMA show which starts on the 8th March"
Although it also says 'details on the website' - there was none when I looked
--A-- new DSLR ... no 40D?
2007 February 18th A few more mails I've had suggest that the cropped 10MP 10fps 1DMkIII (1.3) may be what we get next week?
The original poster has a good rumour track record including such comments as:
Although he has recently said that there is "no video". Video has certainly been tested in some of the sample cameras out in the wild, but a lot of features get tested and may not make the cut for cost/engineering/usability/marketing reasons.
Talking of video, Sony have announced a 6MP CMOS sensor that can capture 6MP at 60 frames per second (info on DPR). Sony make sensors for lots of other companies, including the (CCD) sensors used in Nikon DSLRs.
This Spanish blog also suggests:
17th At last, an interesting thread on a board that points to some very interesting announcements?
Have a read, draw your own conclusions, but some quotes:
and on MF
Anyone got any info on Canon's corporate purchases? I had a brief look, but apart from ones connected with databases and image processing, and Fotango (image sharing) I couldn't see anything particular? [see Canon MF page for followup info on this]
Meanwhile, an authoritative sounding post on FM (much like them all... ;-) says when the new stuff will be announced:
Note -- Times now corrected - as far as I know
There is also the suggestion of only one new 1 series camera this time, with the others held back until later in the year -- no replacement for the 30D? no 5DMk2? No 1DsMk3? (drat!) and what? -still- no 3D?? :-)
Meanwhile, a few pages back there is the equally precise:
Well if my next camera does do 8.5fps then the noise (see yesterday) should be enough to intimidate clients who might dare to doubt my professional credentials... :-)
Even so, the 1.3 crop fan club are still pitching for a 10MP 10fps 1DMk3
Good to see the 800/5.6 still there in the 'predictions' (see the 27th Jan in for a 'pic' ;-) ... but I do like the idea of a 12-24.
Thanks again to all the people who have recently written in with sightings and links to info they've found...
16th No real news at the moment I'm afraid, but I was sent this link to a video with pictures and sounds of various Canon models firing away. The 8.5fps of the 1Dmk2n is quite impressive :-)
15th Only a matter of time until the first 'accidental' leak of specs for new stuff...
40D and a replacement for the 1DMk2n seem top of peoples' expectations, although personally, my spare cash sits waiting for a new 1Ds.
Of course, if the 1Ds2 replacement is held until later in the year, then expectations will have time to build higher, and Canon have been wanting to get a 25MP 35mm camera out for some time. If you scale up the 400D sensor then you get over 25MP - or it could just be an all new sensor type.
The price of the 5D has dropped again in the UK, with another large retailer taking it to £1500 (OK £1499 - but thats fifteen hundred quid in my money ;-)
2007 February 14th I've just been sent some interesting info from a Spanish magazine - DSLR Magazine - (Thanks Luis)
Kenya - nature photography? High speed, high megapixels, long lenses or a combination of them all...?
Ignacio Feito has very kindly sent me a translation of much of the article
...and the second part
A Google translation of some of the Canon info... Not it that clarifies matters :-)
There's quite a bit of other info in the article, including mention of a replacement for the Leica Modul-R the Leica RD with a 17MP (possibly FF not 1.3 crop) crop sensor - priced somewhere around the level of a a good MF digital system I'd suggest ;-)
13th Oh dear, lack of news brings forward a pretty poor fake from Russia at POTN
C'mon folks, if you are going to fake pictures, at least learn how to distort text so it looks as if it's actaully on the object :-)
On a more useful note... If you read the sensor info yesterday, then do look at some of the info in the follow up posts in that LL thread.
A worthwhile comment on Erwin's briefly visible page is followed up nicely on FM suggesting that there may well be digital zoom (sorry, must remember -- 'Dynamic crop' in pro marketing speak) on the 1D2 successor.
There is a copy of what was posted on Erwin's site at POTN ...not exactly a comprehensive technical analysis but interesting to see.
While we're collecting some older posts - there is this collection of info I missed (unfortunately with no sources or attribution whatsoever) which has a fairly broad range of rumours, including a 4D (popular opinion has always been that Canon would avoid the number 4 for various reasons)
I've got a pdf version available. "33 MP Dalsa & 39 MP Kodak Sensors, Technical Differences and Facts" perhaps slanted a bit towards the Dalsa chip (it's what Sinar use after all) but a good reference.
Worth reading when we finally see what Canon fits into 35mm
2007 February 11th The article on Erwin's site has now gone... draw your own conclusions, but there is no shortage of suggestions that the Canon black helicopters and men in sunglasses paid him a visit ;-)
The gist of it is:
There is a cryptic comment about the 1D memory buffer, but this looks more like some bit of info mangled in translation somewhere :-) Might actually refer to a continuous jpeg mode where pictures will just keep pouring into your memory card until it's full...
Subsequent suggestions in the FM forum point to a switchable 'dynamic crop' mode for those used to the 1.25 crop sensor of the 1D2. Mind you, that sounds suspiciously like a 'pro' version of 'digital zoom' ;-) -- that marketing invention that has no earthly use in any decent camera.
If you go through Erwin's site there is some quite interesting info on the M8 as well - it just so happens that there is a Leica fan down my local pub - I only mutter 'infra-red filters' every so often, since he must have plenty of spare cash to buy Leica (and drinks ;-)
Incidentally Erwin is a 'real' expert compared with many on the net - see this review of his Lens book.
There is obviously a DPR thread covering Erwin's comments - save reading it all for a boring Monday morning at work :-)
And one other interesting but unrelated bit of news I was sent - it seems Microsoft Vista can easily mangle your camera files metadata if you are not careful - oops, best be careful ;-)
10th I noticed at RG that the Leica Modul R9 is no more "Memo # 2007-65 Discontinued - Digital-Modul-R" - it's a camera beloved of those who like to suggest that Canon will be bringing in a modular 'system' To Leica's credit, they adopted DNG as a raw format - pity a few other manufacturers couldn't also do this...
The modular approach also brings us round to batteries and a lot of discussions about the merits of NiMH and Lithium Ion and its variants.
See this bit of the FM thread for some assorted battery info.
The two NiMH batteries for my 1Ds are still going strong after 3 years - bit less capacity, but I rarely have to take a charger with me on single jobs.
The picture shows where electricity is sometimes not so easily accessible (Fairplay, Colorado ;-) One socket, alternately used for my laptop and camera batteries :-)
But back to mere rampant speculation, and that EVF thread on DPR is still going strong. Ideal reading if you want to try and filter the snippets of real engineering knowledge out from those by people who write their posts in green ink ;-)
9th With the long lens rumours there has been more talk about why extra contacts might be needed for lenses (see the new lenses page for info on what all the existing contacts do).
In camera lens correction might be on the cards, much the same way as Hasselblad now offer "digital correction for color aberration and distortion (DAC)"
New lenses might contain a whole load of information about their distortion types and amounts - this data needs to be downloaded pretty quickly, and it's possible that the existing EF interface just isn't fast enough.
I also saw a comment on FM that suggested that what was going to be announced might appeal to nature photographers
8th Whatever's being told to people on the 23rd, it seems there is indeed some new long glass to go with it (what about some really good extra wide as well? ;-)
If you read the entire thread on the SS forum, you will see that a lot of people are specifically -not- looking for any more megapixels ... although I did wonder at the comment
Not here I'm afraid... :-)
There's also been more discussions about getting rid of mirrors and the mechanical shutter and going for an EVF (electronic viewfinder) system - it's something that is in Canon's long term view (See Chuck Westfall's PDF mentioned here on 11th Nov) but personally I'd be very surprised to see it in the successor to the 1Ds Mk2
Canon tech. (from the technology sitemap) that might be of interest includes:
7th In the UK I'm told that: "The David Leung advert in this week's AP [magazine] confirms that Canon is announcing new products at a dealer launch on 23 February, and suggests that Focus will see full details made public."
Show info (25th-28th Feb) - Focus on Imaging 2007 - notice that Canon is still not listed as an exhibitor
I've also been told of a London Pro Canon dealer... "going to a Canon Press launch on the 21st Feb. They don't know what it is as evidently the reps don't either."
Interesting to know if the info will be under embargo, as was suggested to me for the visit on the 23rd
From POTN, we hear that at last, US regional sales reps are to get some real information to pass on.
Meetings are being held next Monday and Tuesday (12th, 13th).
Of course, that doesn't mean they will be allowed to pass the info on immediately. The UK event I mentioned yesterday is for dealers - I even got asked "Are you going to be there?" by one when I was looking to confirm the info yesterday.
Somehow I don't think Canon would do that, but it would be nice :-) :-)
As ever, if anyone has any more info, we're happy to hear about it :-)
6th From POTN ...
Unfortunately the 24th is a Saturday - not a traditional news day, but I've confirmed there -is- an event of some sort on the Friday.
But with 100 new products this year (from Canon Malaysia) there might well be room for some interesting things as well as photocopiers and printers...
The switchable aspect ratio rumour has been widely picked up and commented upon. If you have a sensor that covers both sizes (say 36x24 for the conventional 3:2 and maybe 34x25.5 for the 4:3, then you need a bigger sensor - with a new viewfinder, prism, mirror and shutter. Ideal chance to redesign the AF and metering systems as well. So, add in a new sensor design and you've got a camera that is suitably different to stand out from the crowd - but not necessarily different enough to be spotted by people looking out for ones being tested in the field :-) All the old 'Are Foveon megapixels real megapixels?' arguments are in for a re-run if there really is a whole new sensor design in forthcoming products.
2007 February 5th From Austria, 30D price cuts ... and 1Ds3 info from Germany at http://www.dslr-forum.de/showpost.php?p=1568883&postcount=14
A rough translation (thanks)
Is this the TrueColor, mentioned a while back (9th Jan)?
A comment on the FM rumour thread adds more to this - not your usual pixels...
From Japan a Mk3 rumour: http://bbs.kakaku.com/bbs/00500210737/#5962591
According to a comment I received from Japan (thanks), the original post suggests:
Some more info from Australia (thanks) suggesting that Canon might be offloading stock? Ted's Camera stores are offering a A$750 rebate on the 1Dmk2n ending on the 28th of February. Good to see they've added the 1Ds mk2 to their line up... "New" ;-)
Superbowl came ... and went without any announcement, so it's all eyes on the run up to PMA which opens on Thursday 8th of March, although 'Press Day' is on the 7th. Current Press Releases are listed at the PMA 2007 site.
Keep an eye on all your favourite forums for threads based on the 'I saw someone in the press corps at Superbowl using a one series camera with a 3" lcd'...
As well as built in WiFi for the new camera, several people are asking about GPS? I actually used my old hand held GPS the other day taking some photos in various muddy fields for a civil engineering company for a new road scheme - one of the few times I've had a genuine use for it in three years of using my 1Ds. Not to say it wouldn't be of use to some, but I can think of far more advances I'd like to see in a new One series before built-in GPS :-)
Another long term wish list component that regularly surfaces is the use of a Pellicle mirror, such as was in the EOS-1N RS. Without the need for the mirror to flip up and down the camera is faster and quieter - not a feature I'd expect soon, although Olympus have had the 'liveview' system for the E-330 for a while.
Meanwhile here is another thin version of that original LL rumour post I mentioned the other day :-)
3rd Thanks for all the comments about stocks and availability. At http://www.ac-foto.com (Germany) the 1DsMk2 is seriously out of stock - come back in 4 weeks if you still want one ;-)
2nd Just in from Australia (thanks)... at Expansys (URL fixed) they are saying the WFT-E1 is no more
New wireless options on the way at PMA?
Those of you going to PMA might notice that Canon have a pretty big space to fill (floorplan PDF).
I'm told that Jessops (UK) is now listing the 1DsMk2 as out of stock, although the Calumet site was listing the 1Ds2 with Wireless kit as available at only £3 extra. (Now back in 'stock' ;-) I've also had comments about several Swedish suppliers being out of stock, but showing the WFT-E1 wireless adapter as included with 1DsMk2s. -- Possibly a surplus of wireless adapters available, if it's built in to the new camera?
Thanks again to everyone who has mailed me with their comments and observations from around the world!
I also noticed that the FM rumour thread is now over 1000 posts :-)
One other thing - several people pointed me to a story on Engadget - unfortunately it's only a rehash of the original post (mentioned on the 27th on this page) from the 26th Jan on LL (by a forum member making his 2nd post). If you read the original post carefully, you should be able to spot it as it gets recycled and revised over the next few weeks and appears in various places, with little extras added ;-)
2007 February 1st If you go to Calumet UK site you will find that the 30D and 1DsMk2 are 'overdue from vendor'
And as to the NDA stuff yesterday, several people pointed out that it more accurately represents Canon's crackdown on NDA violators and distrust of many web based 'news' sources ;-) There are many people out there testing stuff and printing brochures etc...
Even older rumours (Spring 2005 to January 2007) are on our old 1Ds3 Canon rumours page
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